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- Fri May 04, 2018 2:03 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Languages without Quantifier Hopping?
- Replies: 14
- Views: 10473
Re: Languages without Quantifier Hopping?
An example: In hell, Satan only allows conlangers to write auxlangs. This could have four meanings, depending on what "only" is taken to modify: (Only conlangers) can write auxlangs Conlangers can write (only auxlangs) Conlangers can (only write auxlangs) (as opposed to doing anything else) Only (c...
- Sun Apr 15, 2018 7:48 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Relative clauses: cross-linguistic comparison
- Replies: 23
- Views: 13965
Re: Relative clauses: cross-linguistic comparison
Hopi has something called the "subject constraint" which says that a relativized noun can't be the subject-in-the-main-clause unless it's also the subject-in-the-relative-clause. So sentences 1, 3, and 4 are permissible in Hopi, but not 2.
- Thu Sep 14, 2017 12:47 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: I've just discovered the Nuxalk language
- Replies: 6
- Views: 3289
Re: I've just discovered the Nuxalk language
(Don't take this personally, Jonlang, but:) I hate that example sentence. It's a meme. It's the only thing anyone ever says about Bella Coola. Sure, whatever, it's technically a licit word in the language (Nater, Bella Coola Language , page 5)-- I don't care, but it's not at all representative of th...
- Sun Jun 04, 2017 11:50 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: What language is this?
- Replies: 12
- Views: 4391
What language is this?
Does anybody know what language this song is in? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UINOS-L3oVU At first I thought it was Irish. I asked Yat who knows a little Irish-- she said she didn't think so, but didn't sound entirely sure. Cornish would be "more" "historically" "accurate" to King Arthur, I suppo...
- Tue Apr 25, 2017 3:18 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Greek and Roman gods names
- Replies: 18
- Views: 6576
Re: Greek and Roman gods names
Mars, Vulcan and Saturn might be others that people are still more familiar with the Roman names? I dunno, man, maybe my experience doesn't track with others since I grew upon Herc 'n Xena in the 90s, but I certainly don't see that for Mars and Saturn. Maybe for Vulcan, just because it sounds like ...
- Sat Apr 22, 2017 2:35 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Greek and Roman gods names
- Replies: 18
- Views: 6576
Re: Greek and Roman gods names
Mars, Vulcan and Saturn might be others that people are still more familiar with the Roman names? I dunno, man, maybe my experience doesn't track with others since I grew upon Herc 'n Xena in the 90s, but I certainly don't see that for Mars and Saturn. Maybe for Vulcan, just because it sounds like ...
- Tue Apr 04, 2017 11:07 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Greek and Roman gods names
- Replies: 18
- Views: 6576
Greek and Roman gods names
In Pope's translations of Homer, the king of the gods is called "Jove". It's the same in Samuel Butler's 1900 translations. By at least 1938, Rouse was calling him "Zeus" and as far as I know it's been that way ever since. You see this also in movies. I can't think of an easy example off-hand except...
- Fri Mar 24, 2017 5:22 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Digital Voice Synthesizer
- Replies: 6
- Views: 2885
Re: Digital Voice Synthesizer
An excellent addition to my torture chamber.
- Thu Mar 02, 2017 5:00 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Are Classical languages harder?
- Replies: 14
- Views: 5210
Re: Are Classical languages harder?
Deutscher is being rather disingenuous here. If he wants a scientific proof, he shouldn't be looking in "introductory textbooks". Where on earth do you get the idea that he's only been looking in introductory textbooks? He's citing Fromkin/Rodman as an illustrative example of the meme he is trying ...
- Wed Mar 01, 2017 8:29 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Are Classical languages harder?
- Replies: 14
- Views: 5210
Re: Are Classical languages harder?
Lemme play devil's advocate for a minute. Ask Joe the Plumber, Piers the Ploughman, or Tom the Piper's Son what sort of languages the half-naked tribes in the Amazonian rain forest speak, and they will undoubtedly tell you that "primitive people speak primitive languages." Ask professional linguists...
- Fri Feb 03, 2017 2:34 pm
- Forum: None of the above
- Topic: Linguistic Quackery Thread, take 2
- Replies: 812
- Views: 208938
Re: Linguistic Quackery Thread, take 2
The second word is also uttered once in the episode by one of the actors (who from her pronunciation I think might know the language irl) in a bit of code-switching: "This is a decision for iskwewak." ( -ak = plural suffix) I was curious how well the subtitler handled this line, and sure enough, he...
- Thu Feb 02, 2017 8:07 pm
- Forum: None of the above
- Topic: Linguistic Quackery Thread, take 2
- Replies: 812
- Views: 208938
Re: Linguistic Quackery Thread, take 2
Not quite linguistic quackery, but linguistic underperformance: Been watching the new Netflix series "Frontier" about the trials and travails of the Hudson's Bay Company in 18th c. Canada. One episode is named "Mushkegowuk Esquewu", which I was able to surmise is somebody's attempt at spelling Cree ...
- Mon Dec 19, 2016 7:48 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Another one bites the dust: Mandan
- Replies: 30
- Views: 7550
- Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:20 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Numbers from 1 to 10 updated
- Replies: 98
- Views: 29637
Re: Numbers from 1 to 10 updated
Bankan Tey Dogon 1 [counting] tùmá:, [modifier] tùmá (inan.) or tùmǎ-m (anim.) 2 yǒy 3 tà:ní 4 nìŋŋěyⁿ 5 nùmmù̌yⁿ 6 kúròy 7 síyⁿɔ̀yⁿ 8 gá:rày 9 tè:súm 10 pɛ́:rú "A Grammar of Bankan Tey, Dogon of Walo", Jeffrey Heath, 2014 Yanda-Dom Dogon [inanimate/counting] 1 tùmá: 2 yè-nɔ́: 3 yè-tá:ndù 4 yè-cɛ́z...
- Thu Nov 03, 2016 5:10 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Numbers from 1 to 10 updated
- Replies: 98
- Views: 29637
Re: Numbers from 1 to 10 updated
vocalized Sogdian : ēw, (ə)δwa, əθrē~šē, čətfār, panǰ, xušu, əβda, əšta, nəwa, δəsa ("An Introduction to Manichean Sogdian" by that motherfucking P.I.M.P. Prods Oktor Skjærvø) Bactrian ιωγο, λοι, [no 3], σοφαρο, πανζο, [no 6], [no7], αταο, [no 9], λασο (Selected Features of Bactrian Grammar – Saloum...
- Wed Nov 02, 2016 12:07 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Numbers from 1 to 10 updated
- Replies: 98
- Views: 29637
Re: Numbers from 1 to 10 updated
Huave There are four Huave languages: San Francisco del Mar, San Mateo del Mar, San Dionisio del Mar, and Santa María del Mar. The numerals you currently have (from Yasugi 1995 who uses Stairs & Stairs 1981) are from San Mateo del Mar, but they have a formatting error and the "8" is incorrect. The ...
- Tue Nov 01, 2016 6:51 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Numbers from 1 to 10 updated
- Replies: 98
- Views: 29637
Re: Numbers from 1 to 10 updated
Took a look at your Sahaptin. The dialect seems to be that of Umatilla but the orthography is deficient (more fossils from the pre-Unicode days). From "Sketch of Sahaptin, a Sahaptian Language" by Bruce Rigsby & Noel Rude 1996: 1 náx̣s 2 nápt 3 mɨ́taat 4 pínapt 5 páx̣at 6 uyláxs 7 uynápt 8 uymátat 9...
- Tue Nov 01, 2016 9:19 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Numbers from 1 to 10 updated
- Replies: 98
- Views: 29637
Re: Numbers from 1 to 10 updated
Dogon languages: from “A Grammar of Najamba Dogon” by Jeffrey Heath: 1 kúndú 2 nô:y 3 tà:ndî: 4 kɛ́:jɛ̀y 5 nùmî: 6 kúlèy 7 swɛ̂y 8 sá:glì: 9 twây 10 píyɛ́lì from “A Grammar of Tiranige” by Jeffrey Heath: 1 tò:mà: 2 nì:ŋgà 3 tá:ndí 4 cɛ̀:jɔ̀ 5 nú: 6 kùlèyⁿ 7 sɔ́:y 8 sé:lé 9 tó:wá 10 pìyɔ̀lù from “A G...
- Mon Oct 31, 2016 7:00 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Numbers from 1 to 10 updated
- Replies: 98
- Views: 29637
Re: Numbers from 1 to 10 updated
I was only able to find a few of the numbers for Kitsai . From “The Northern Caddoan Languages: Their Subgroupings and Time Depths” (Douglas Parks and Mary College 1979): 1 arísku 2 cásu ~ cúsu From “Kitsai Phonology and Morphophonemics” (Salvador Bucca and Alexander Lesser 1969): 4 kinákt 5 ikstáwi...
- Sat Oct 29, 2016 12:05 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Numbers from 1 to 10 updated
- Replies: 98
- Views: 29637
Re: Numbers from 1 to 10 updated
Gitksan ("A Short Practical Dictionary of the Gitksan Language" by Ronnie Hindle and Bruce Rigsby) 1 (am) k’iy̓ 2 gilbil 3 gwlal̓ 4 tx̱alpx̱ ~ tḵ’alpx̱ 5 xwsdins 6 ḵ’ool̓t 7 t’ipx̱ool̓t 8 g̱andool̓t / k’yuxdaal̓t (see Nisgha errata note B) 9 xwsdimoos 10 xbil̓ Errata for Nisgha A: “ten” <xbil̓> is ...
- Sun Oct 23, 2016 2:35 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Archaisms and curiosities in well-known language families
- Replies: 31
- Views: 9505
Re: Archaisms and curiosities in well-known language familie
Click consonants in Afro-Asiatic (Dahalo).
Tone contrasts in Indo-European (some varieties of Punjabi apparently?).
Front rounded vowels in a North American language (Hopi).
Sibilants in Australian languages (Kala Lagaw Ya, Mpakwithi Anguthimri).
Tone contrasts in Indo-European (some varieties of Punjabi apparently?).
Front rounded vowels in a North American language (Hopi).
Sibilants in Australian languages (Kala Lagaw Ya, Mpakwithi Anguthimri).
- Mon Oct 03, 2016 5:15 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Basic distinctions: No word for "eat"
- Replies: 11
- Views: 4373
Re: Basic distinctions: No word for "eat"
Xhosa has two words for drink: sela 'drink cool beverage' and phunga 'drink warm beverage'. IIRC Yup'ik also has this distinction. Is this more common than having multiple 'eat' distinctions?
- Sat Oct 01, 2016 2:26 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Favorite/least favorite features from natlangs
- Replies: 59
- Views: 14943
Re: Favorite/least favorite features from natlangs
An interesting thing about Manambu I just learned about: verbal cross-referencing for the gender of temporal/spatial extent. From Aikhenvald, 2009: Nouns have two covert genders (feminine and masculine, marked via agreement in singular only) and three numbers (singular, dual, and plural) marked on m...
- Mon Sep 12, 2016 9:45 pm
- Forum: None of the above
- Topic: Linguistic Quackery Thread, take 2
- Replies: 812
- Views: 208938
- Sat Sep 10, 2016 1:00 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Numbers from 1 to 10 updated
- Replies: 98
- Views: 29637
Re: Numbers from 1 to 10 updated
Xincan: Guazacapán [language] ik’alh , piy’ , walh , hirya , pühü , tak’alh ( A Comparative Grammar of Xinkan by Christopher Rogers) Chiquimulilla [language] k’alh , piy’ , walh , hirya , pühü , tak’alh , p’ulhwa , (ünya)? , (ünya)? , pak’ilh ünya means either 8 or 9-- the evidence is not clear. (so...