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- Tue Aug 29, 2006 6:51 pm
- Forum: L&L Museum
- Topic: The Lesser-Used Sounds
- Replies: 113
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My own favorite "exotic" sounds are linguo-labials and lateral plosives. But I don't think I'll use them in my first conlang. Aren't lateral plosives impossible by definition (unless you mean laterally released )? Lateral means there's more airflow round the sides of the tongue than in the centre, ...
- Mon Aug 28, 2006 11:24 am
- Forum: L&L Museum
- Topic: The Lesser-Used Sounds
- Replies: 113
- Views: 90193
Re: The Lesser-Used Sounds
My own favorite "exotic" sounds are linguo-labials and lateral plosives. But I don't think I'll use them in my first conlang.¡Papapishu! wrote: [snip]
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Tom H.C. in MI
- Fri Aug 25, 2006 12:46 pm
- Forum: Almea
- Topic: Almean Astronomy
- Replies: 17
- Views: 10892
- Sat Aug 19, 2006 12:30 pm
- Forum: None of the above
- Topic: OTTER
- Replies: 1013
- Views: 414369
- Wed Aug 16, 2006 7:42 pm
- Forum: L&L Museum
- Topic: Adjectival cases vs. adverbial cases
- Replies: 34
- Views: 31268
Re: Adjectival cases vs. adverbial cases
Every language has the same range of choices: to the best of my memory they are the following: * lexical suppletion (like "me" and "I") * stem modification (like "you" and "your" and "yours") * affixes (almost always suffixes to indicate Case; but prefixes and infixes and circumfixes and superfixes...
- Sat Aug 12, 2006 3:45 pm
- Forum: L&L Museum
- Topic: Adjectival cases vs. adverbial cases
- Replies: 34
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If you look again, you'll see "nebula" put asterisks before those constructions; this means he(?) considered them ungrammatical. No he didn't. I mailed [a letter to] Bob. Huh! I didn't realize that was the one you were talking about. There the theme/patient/directobject of "mailed" is still inanima...
- Sat Aug 12, 2006 10:58 am
- Forum: L&L Museum
- Topic: Adjectival cases vs. adverbial cases
- Replies: 34
- Views: 31268
I think you're partly right, but it's also partly determined by the verb. Logically "gave" should act the same as "showed", yet **"I gave [a present to] Bob" is unacceptable. I believe you are right; unless you meant something other than what I understood (in which case you still might be right.) A...
- Fri Aug 11, 2006 11:59 am
- Forum: L&L Museum
- Topic: Adjectival cases vs. adverbial cases
- Replies: 34
- Views: 31268
[snip] Even if you include clearly nominative forms, that leads just to ungrammatical sentences (I'm not a native speaker, so I may be wrong here - and things like this may, of course, be admissible in poetry, but then, what isn't?): *Kisses she. [snip] So, it seems to me, in English, the slot in t...
- Tue Aug 08, 2006 4:59 pm
- Forum: L&L Museum
- Topic: Adjectival cases vs. adverbial cases
- Replies: 34
- Views: 31268
How would you treat imperative clausess in that "omission" framework - e.g. in "Kill Bill" Bill is automatically interpreted as direct object for which reason 1) Omission / role assignment rule for imperative clauses differs from other clauses or 2) Imperative clauses have an implied subject, so th...
- Thu Aug 03, 2006 7:52 pm
- Forum: L&L Museum
- Topic: Adjectival cases vs. adverbial cases
- Replies: 34
- Views: 31268
Re: Adjectival cases vs. adverbial cases
[snip] Just to be clear, I was not using "nominative" to mean "subject". Yes, I understood that. You mention ergative languages yourself; if they have this sort of rule it presumably assigns default absolutive case. That's what you'd think, but it isn't so in most cases. In most ergative languages ...
- Thu Aug 03, 2006 2:19 pm
- Forum: L&L Museum
- Topic: Adjectival cases vs. adverbial cases
- Replies: 34
- Views: 31268
Re: Adjectival cases vs. adverbial cases
Every language has the same range of choices: to the best of my memory they are the following: * lexical suppletion (like "me" and "I") * stem modification (like "you" and "your" and "yours") * affixes [snip] * agreement -- some other word is modified to indicate the case [snip] * periphrasis -- ad...
- Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:32 pm
- Forum: L&L Museum
- Topic: Adjectival cases vs. adverbial cases
- Replies: 34
- Views: 31268
Re: Adjectival cases vs. adverbial cases
Doing so I find suggestions that modern French has two genitives; a suggestion that English's "of" genitive and English's "Saxon" genitive (I think that's the "-'s" genitive) should be treated as Genitive-1 and Genitive-2; and a suggestion that modern English pronouns have two genitives. Genitive-1...
- Fri Mar 17, 2006 5:43 pm
- Forum: L&L Museum
- Topic: Adjectival cases vs. adverbial cases
- Replies: 34
- Views: 31268
I found a (Dutch) website about the genitive's functions in Latin. Latin has 12 Genitives, i.e. 12 genitive functions; apart from the genitive possessive and the four Greek genitives you mentioned, it has: (snip) Let's keep clear on this - Latin has one Genitive with several functions! The question...
- Wed Mar 15, 2006 3:34 pm
- Forum: L&L Museum
- Topic: Adjectival cases vs. adverbial cases
- Replies: 34
- Views: 31268
Re: Adjectival cases vs. adverbial cases
The temptation to call any adnominal case "genitive" seems to be so strong that some language's adnominal cases are just called "Genitive I", "Genitive II", etc. Interesting. Can you give any specific examples? I found another example; it's Tsez. (According to Bernard Comrie's "Valency-Changing Der...
- Tue Mar 14, 2006 11:13 am
- Forum: L&L Museum
- Topic: Adjectival cases vs. adverbial cases
- Replies: 34
- Views: 31268
Re: Adjectival cases vs. adverbial cases
The temptation to call any adnominal case "genitive" seems to be so strong that some language's adnominal cases are just called "Genitive I", "Genitive II", etc. Interesting. Can you give any specific examples? For examples: See [snip] It looks like all but one of the examples is Russian; which has...
- Sun Mar 12, 2006 5:29 pm
- Forum: L&L Museum
- Topic: Adjectival cases vs. adverbial cases
- Replies: 34
- Views: 31268
Re: Adjectival cases vs. adverbial cases
The temptation to call any adnominal case "genitive" seems to be so strong that some language's adnominal cases are just called "Genitive I", "Genitive II", etc. Interesting. Can you give any specific examples? For examples: See http://www.alphadictionary.com/rusgrammar/caseexcpt.html and http://ww...
- Sat Mar 11, 2006 5:28 pm
- Forum: L&L Museum
- Topic: Adjectival cases vs. adverbial cases
- Replies: 34
- Views: 31268
Re: Adjectival cases vs. adverbial cases
Firstly: what are the usual terms for cases that result in something that modifies a noun and cases that result in something that acts adverbially? Is adjectival case/adverbial case okay? Case(s) which make the so-cased noun or NP modify another noun or NP are called " adnominal cases", to distingu...
- Fri Jan 06, 2006 3:28 pm
- Forum: Almea
- Topic: Almean Astronomy
- Replies: 17
- Views: 10892
- Tue Jan 03, 2006 2:07 pm
- Forum: Almea
- Topic: Almean Astronomy
- Replies: 17
- Views: 10892