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Ok so, I made this phoneme inventory for a conlang based on Classical Japanese for a non human species to speak. This is mostly a balance question and where things could go from this: /p b m t d n k g N/ /s z C/ /j w r/ /i e a o u/ /i: e: a: o: u:/ /p/ and /N/ are both rare phonemes and /N/ could be...

(I don't really have any idea if this is a realistic rate for those sound changes to happen at, but this sounds fascinating and I'd love to see where it goes.) Thank you. I might just go through the words I have in Old Nyango with each set of changes I have now and see which I like better at this p...

I've talked more about Nyango on the CBB, but it seems to be down now. This is mostly to get my own thoughts out and arranged but if I get any input to help me do that, I would appreciate it. Old Nyango has nasals, prenasalized voiced consonants, and nasal+consonant combos (including nasal+prenasali...

Modern English Human [hjumn] > "Nyango" [Cu.ma.N\]
Early Modern English Thou art [ðaw aɹt] > "Nyango" [sa.u.a:.tsu]
Middle English Yonge sonne [joŋgə sonnnə] > "Nyango" [jo.N\.nga.so.N\.na]
Old English We gar-dena [weː gaɹ-deːna] > "Nyango" [M\e:.nga:.de:.na]

Assuming you stuck to binary trans people (trans men and trans women exclusively), my bet is they would pattern most closely with their gender identity but with some minor traits from their assigned at birth gender. It might be more difficult including nonbinary trans people, but it would be interes...

Thank you. It's far better than nothing and if I don't know enough of the modern language to get use out of it, it'll only push me to study more.

Thank you for both the posts clearing things up a bit. It's not that the sound changes for h-w-j were difficult to understand going forward, it's that I've had a difficult time finding and online dictionary for Classical Japanese and it would be a bit harder deriving things backward. If you have one...

in hakodate the Dock area is written down as どつく in hiragana with a big tsu, but pronounced ドック as you'd expect from an english loanword. it bothered the shit out of me. but this might be what you mean? it's obviously a relic of the old spelling system or something Something like that. If nothing e...

Where modern Japanese has long consonants - marked with a little tsu - you are implying that they had [tsu] consistently? Really? ... I believe what vampyre_smiles is saying is that he's heard that at some point in the pre-reform Japanese writing system, the "tsu" character always represented /tu/ ...

I understand if this needs to become its own thread, and I don't want to hijack, but I thought I might get more attention here than on it's own. Does anyone have a good list of words/roots from Early Middle Japanese? I've found some info about sound changes over time from then to Modern Japanese, an...

Because of a story idea, I've also been struck by a bogo lang idea that I'm going to need help with. I was going to post this in the sound change quickie thread but I think it would require more than just sound changes, and I don't know enough about historical Japanese to really do this justice, con...

@vampyre_smiles I associate vowel sounds with shapes and directions of motion, but that's the only direct relation between sounds and other senses that I can name. For instance /i/ feels like a flat object moving downward to me, like someone slapping a table or a piece of paper floating to the grou...

Speaking of synesthesia, while it doesn't affect overall whether I like a sound better, I see unvoiced consonant sounds as "brighter" and more saturated colors, and voiced consonants are either darker or less saturated. Does anyone with synesthesia have some similar pattern, whatever the actual corr...

meanwhile, i've found that the zbb is one of the more accepting boards that i've had the pleasure of being on, especially for one that has been around for so long, with so many members and so active. then again, large number of members and level of activity may be due to the tolerance here, or conve...

Nortaneous wrote:

Travis B. wrote:You know you have been told not to capitalize IPA.

It's an IPA transcription of a text where some words are capitalized.

And it's still incorrect.

I cannot help but make a plug for Anthologica , a conlanging/conworlding site which represents a population of users formed mostly of #isharians (and hence of ZBBers and former ZBBers). We can always use more users, especially for our forums (which still need to reach critical mass), and IMO we pro...

We had a collab on the Conworlds forum called Jelly Donut World that got pretty far. But I think one of the things that helped was that as long as we didn't counter anything that came before, we allowed it to be as silly as people wanted to make it. So, you may want to be a bit lax about what gets p...

I have another question too. I'm unsure about what to do with some of the retroflex consonants, see the list below. I've been thinking that they're gonna be unstable in this language, so they're affected by secondary features. Palatalization pulls them forwards, and labiovelarization/pharyngealizat...

Astraios wrote:vampyre, did you print the tshirt yourself?

Nope, actually think I found it a while back at Target. Occasionally they have some pretty interesting t-shirts and stuff.

So on Sunday I went to a tattoo show/music festival and part of it was on the Queen Mary. So have a pic of me with a backdrop of Long Beach.

Well, the Catholic Church said beavers are fish, so why not rabbit-birds?

Qiqqit wrote:

Nortaneous wrote:example sentences dammit

(Romanizations here)

thank you very much. Making a couple tweaks. In any case now I should be able to input these for word generation without getting weird output screw ups.

Google drive, usually just a text file for storing things. And Awkwords for random word generation, since otherwise I have a tendency of using too much of certain sounds and not enough of others. Which is fine if I'm making up random words for in a fantasy world, but not so much if I'm doing a serio...

I'm getting these from a phoneme inventory generator and plan to use them for protolangs so they will get tweaked Unnamed phoneme set #1: /m, n, p, t, tS, k, ?, f, s, S, h, l, w/ /i, e, E, u, o, O, A/ (C)V(R)(C) C= any consonant V= any vowel R= one of /m, n, l, w/ Notes: Haven't decided any allophon...

araceli wrote:Do you "go for" one, "take" one, "have" one, "do" one, or what? Similarly for a shower, a nap, a rest, a look, and so on. How about languages other than English, if they have a comparable idiom?

walk - go for or take
shower - take
nap - take of have
rest - have
look - take or have