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by Shihali
Sat Jun 14, 2014 12:22 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Sound Change Game
Replies: 2673
Views: 501521

Re: Sound Change Game

Hathe sechihā [setʃi̥hɒˤː] :> Rimelsó sétchaa [ˈsettʃʰɑː]
Hathe setèsēhū [setə̥sæˤːɦʊˤː] :> Rimelsó séthääquu [ˈsetsæːhuː]
Hathe tèsechihā [təsɛtʃi̥hɒˤː] :> Rimelsó tesetchaa [ˈtɛsɛttʃʰɑː]
Hathe tanatèsiū [tanatə̥sɨ̥ʔʊˤː] :>Rimelsó tanatsiʼuu [ˈtɑnɑtsiʔuː]
by Shihali
Mon Jun 02, 2014 6:08 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Numbers as labels - how do they work?
Replies: 4
Views: 1594

Numbers as labels - how do they work?

I am familiar with cardinal numbers and ordinal numbers, but I don't know much about the grammar of numbers used as labels or "nominal numbers", such as "Route 66" or "Speculative Grammarian number 14". Japanese uses a suffix for them, most often 号. How do other natlangs handle these?
by Shihali
Sun May 25, 2014 4:14 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Sound Change Game
Replies: 2673
Views: 501521

Re: Sound Change Game

Kgáweq’ ekełeré‘ [ekeɬeˈɾeʕ] :> Rimelsó ékʼéqléréʼ [ˈekehl̥ereʔ]
Kgáweq’ kawsáwl [kawˈsawl] :> Rimelsó koosool [ˈkɔːzɔːl]
Kgáweq’ kaysáwl [kajˈsawl] :> Rimelsó keesool [ˈkɛːzɔːl]
Kgáweq’ doy‘ [dojʕ] :> Rimelsó tiiʼ [tiːʔ]
by Shihali
Tue May 13, 2014 2:45 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Sound Change Game
Replies: 2673
Views: 501521

Re: Sound Change Game

Ziotaki only took the ʔuuleomoh direct forms.

ʔuuleomoh čič [tʃitʃ] :> Ziotaki čičə [ˈtʃitʃə]
ʔuuleomoh ceň [tseɲ] :> Ziotaki sejə [ˈsɛɟə]
ʔuuleomoh ʔæt [ʔæt] :> Ziotaki etə [ˈɛtə]
ʔuuleomoh tuh [tux] :> Ziotaki tuxə [ˈtɯxə]
by Shihali
Sat Jun 09, 2012 4:25 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 3108
Views: 650200

Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread

The only interesting pronunciation of mine is "century": [ˈsɛn̠.t̠ɕɚ.iː] Yes, I'm a native speaker of American English, really. (At least that's how I think I say it; my command of IPA is shaky. There is definitely an affricate in the middle, and it is definitely not [tʃ]; this one is pronounced wit...
by Shihali
Fri May 25, 2012 8:20 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: How to ejective
Replies: 17
Views: 3869

Re: How to ejective

It took me a long time to "get" ejectives until I learned that English final pre-glottalized /p/ and /k/ are often realized as ejectives, and so now I can do them very easily. For me, the main breakthrough was the notion of a /k/ and a glottal stop said at the same time; even if it's not phonologic...
by Shihali
Thu May 17, 2012 12:51 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Most Important Natural Languages?
Replies: 77
Views: 12751

Re: Most Important Natural Languages?

This is my rating, on the not entirely objective scale of "how often does my limited/nonexistent competence in this language frustrate my desire to read something?" 0. English (my L1, but I suspect it would top the list if it weren't) 1. French (severely limited proficiency and common in 19c English...
by Shihali
Wed Apr 25, 2012 11:18 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Innovative Usage Thread
Replies: 2452
Views: 418090

Re: The Innovative Usage Thread

I find it peculiar that pretty much anyone who knows their IPA is happy to tell you that <j> in English is pronounced [d͡ʒ], while in my opinion, it sounds a lot more like [dʲ]. I'm a fossil that retains pronunciation of "long u" as /ju:/ and to me <do> /du:/, <dew> /dju:/, and <Jew> /d͡ʒu:/ are al...
by Shihali
Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:00 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Korean hangul: a relatively useful 9gag image
Replies: 22
Views: 5322

Re: Korean hangul: a relatively useful 9gag image

Also it seems like they describe 애 and 에 as [æ] and [ɛ] respectively, while from every speaker I've heard it's [ɛ] and [e]. When did 애 and 에 raise to [ɛ] and [e]? I went back and looked at the FSI Basic Course from 1968, and it describes the vowels as [æ] and [ɛ]. It is entirely possible the author...
by Shihali
Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:12 pm
Forum: L&L Museum
Topic: I wish English had a word for this!
Replies: 333
Views: 147140

Re: I wish English had a word for this!

English has the diminutive suffix -ie/-y /i:/, but it's not freely productive, especially for inanimates. I've said "bookie" when looking for a missing book, but normally it's a diminutive form of "bookmaker," a person who accepts bets on sporting events. I think the problem is that diminutives lexi...
by Shihali
Wed Apr 25, 2012 5:43 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: the r/w distinction in English
Replies: 37
Views: 6594

Re: the r/w distinction in English

Well, I don't know about British English, and I'm not sure what kind of "merger" you're referring to without a sound sample, but in American English it seems standard that the our /r/ is labialized. That is, if you say "red", you actually purse/round your lips at the beginning when you say "r". I e...
by Shihali
Fri Apr 20, 2012 6:21 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Nice sounding natlangs
Replies: 391
Views: 66732

Re: Nice sounding natlangs

Yo aprendí un poco del castellano en el colegio, y no entiendo ni una palabra de lo que escribieron Lyra y Izambri.
by Shihali
Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:18 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Learning curve: (dis)similar languages
Replies: 28
Views: 5383

Re: Learning curve: (dis)similar languages

Funny, I was going to post the exact same thing but didn't have time. Now when I try to speak French, the instant I can't recall a French word, the Japanese one tries to jump in. My brain also only has two slots, it seems. Ditto. When I started learning Japanese, Japanese took over my Foreign slot ...
by Shihali
Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:41 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Can WALS do this?
Replies: 15
Views: 3277

Re: Can WALS do this?

Again, no research, but Bantu languages use prefixes for marking person/gender on the verb, and they're heavily right-branching and tend to SVO. Not sure how much evidence Bantu is collectively.
by Shihali
Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:32 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Lexicon Building
Replies: 4308
Views: 792854

Re: Lexicon Building

Ziotaki: n. ľateseiþeko "swim hole"

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by Shihali
Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:07 am
Forum: Almea
Topic: Biggest City of Almea
Replies: 25
Views: 12063

Re: Biggest City of Almea

I'm not sure Ethiopia, Teotihuacán, and Tawantinsuyu are great examples, since they're (mostly) based in tropical highlands and their near-temperate climates. What about Java and the classic Maya? There is a bias in the historical record; in tropical climates, anything but metal and stone rots away ...
by Shihali
Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:46 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: What writing systems do you know
Replies: 102
Views: 15407

Re: What writing systems do you know

(In China the kanji aren't so hard, because they usually only have one reading each... I'm surprised how widespread this notion is among students of Japanese. Is there any particular textbook where you read that? First-year Japanese students are taught that the on-yomi (音読み) is of Chinese origin an...
by Shihali
Sun Apr 01, 2012 10:28 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: What writing systems do you know
Replies: 102
Views: 15407

Re: What writing systems do you know

Read/write comfortably: Latin, Hiragana/Katakana, Arabic, ~500 kanji (Japanese shinjitai style), Tengwar (nerdy but true) Read uncomfortably: Cyrillic, Greek, Hebrew, Hangul, another ~250 kanji (and the preceding 500 in Chinese traditional/simplified styles), Nasta'liq Arabic (it's as hard to read f...
by Shihali
Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:06 pm
Forum: Almea
Topic: Questions about Elenicoi and Oikumene
Replies: 49
Views: 19008

Re: Questions about Elenicoi and Oikumene

As I vaguely recall, the doctrine of original sin was still new and not firmly entrenched in AD 325; its greatest exponent, St. Augustine, wasn't born yet. At any rate, the last time I checked, two Catholic priests working as astronomers for the Vatican had spoken on different sides of the debate. O...
by Shihali
Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:23 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Post your conlang's phonology
Replies: 2278
Views: 504416

Re: Post your conlang's phonology

Does it have any diphthongs? Are there syllables other than (C)V?
by Shihali
Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:18 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Adverb Diachronics Question
Replies: 9
Views: 2131

Re: Adverb Diachronics Question

In Slavic languages adverbs come from adjectives in neutrum , with grammatical ending -o , -e . This reminds me of Standard Arabic, which except for a handful of inherent adverbs derives all its adverbs from adjectives in the masculine singular indefinite accusative -an . I vaguely recall something...
by Shihali
Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:00 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Question - Languages with inconsistent spelling systems?
Replies: 101
Views: 15946

Re: Question - Languages with inconsistent spelling systems?

IIRC, Occitan uses the interpunct · to separate vowels in hiatus so they aren't interpreted as a diphthong. There's also the diaeresis (two dots above, like naïve) and, in more recent orthographies and many conlangs including mine, the apostrophe. So yes, there are lots of methods to indicate non-co...
by Shihali
Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:18 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Question - Languages with inconsistent spelling systems?
Replies: 101
Views: 15946

Re: Question - Languages with inconsistent spelling systems?

How on earth is that a problem? That's not even an irregularity! Maybe it's just me, but when I make con-alphabets, I have a strict "each phoneme gets its own unique letter, no exceptions" policy. Of course, this can also backfire--Adari would require 73 letters for its phonemes (50 vowels, 23 cons...
by Shihali
Mon Feb 13, 2012 1:29 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Post your conlang's phonology
Replies: 2278
Views: 504416

Re: Post your conlang's phonology

My second conlang, Rimelsó: Consonants: m n ɲ ŋ p t tʃ k q ' p h t h tʃ h k h q h p' t' tʃ' k' q' m b n d ɲ dʒ ŋ g (pf) (ts) (kx) (qχ) (ts h ) s ʃ h (v) (z) (ʒ) (ɣ) w y r (ɾ) l ʎ Vowels: i(ĩ) u(ũ) e o ɛ(ɛ̃) ɔ(ɔ̃) æ ɑ Sounds in parentheses are allophones only. Syllable structure: (C)V(:)(N)(r|L)(C) O...
by Shihali
Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:19 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Question - Languages with inconsistent spelling systems?
Replies: 101
Views: 15946

Re: Question - Languages with inconsistent spelling systems?

Even in Arabic script, there's the hamza. I understand a lot of authors dropping initial hamza's, but for a class I read a few tales from the 1001 Nights from a reprint of an early 1800s Egyptian edition and the printers must have been out of hamza's that month because they didn't include a single o...