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Just curious if anyone has the "better" version of Awkwords online somewhere. http://bprhad.wz.cz/awkwords/ still exists, but the site it says it has moved to is gone. Therefore I dont know if Im looking at the old version or the new, or something entirely different. http://akana.conlang.org/tools/...

[ˈaːdɔlʲf ˈhɪtlɐ] :roll: Vian Wqt-dqx-lip-fvp Shit-tzx-lzp [wɒ́dɒ̂lìfv̩̀ʃítə̂ɺə̀] → Proto-Ronquian *XXXX XXXX XXXXX → Ronc Tyu odà vu dae [ɔˌdàˑ vuˑ ˈdaɪ̯] Vian Sanp-wqx-yip-lzp-pup-gunt-gzx-syp [sàɴwɒ̂jìɺə̀pùgúɴgə̂sz̩̀] → Proto-Ronquian *XXXXXX XXXX XXXXX → Ronc Tyu swèi bú kèc [ˌswɛ̀ɪ̯ búˑ ˈkʰɛ̀ʔ...

I think it's highly counterproductive to simply accept what's already been written as fait accompli. If we want Akana to make sense as a plausible, Earth-like world, we may have to go back and make some changes to earlier material. I don't entirely agree. In general I feel like the earlier material...

You're lucky: Romanian is one of the fairly few languages whose sound changes are documented in detail on Wikipedia.

alynnidalar wrote:BTW, link's broken--there's hhttp instead of http.

Fixed link.

Thank you!

Some of the Iroquoian languages have interesting accent-related sound changes, which are totally unlike what is familiar from Indo-European. Have a look at this summary, which is based on Julian, Charles (2010), "A History of the Iroquoian Languages".

Looks good so far!

FWIW, the Gezoro article now has a syntax section. This leaves only dialectology on my to-do-list there.

Maybe it's time we finally start writing up wiki articles about the different agricultural areas of Akana, similar to those on Zomp's Almeopedia ( 1 2 3 4 5 )? Also, although we should be guided by existing words in various languages, conlang vocabulary is not everything. We have discovered a few in...

FWIW, the Tuysáfan elephant species which several Ronquian languages have a word for is meant to be a rather small forest-dwelling elephant, comparable in size to a wild boar or a tapir.

I like the shape of *kyãti too, but it doesn't help me with the Gezoro word for "wine", because that word needs to get loaned into Ndak Ta as jain and the regular reflex of *kyãti would be keɜ̃t . Also, Proto-Western doesn't usually have the sequence /ti/, which would get palatalized to /tʃi/ under ...

I did actually notice the "fava beans" thing... probably should have brought it up in my big post. Here's the citation in context: "As such, notably virile men would have their livers removed, cooked in a ritual stew (which appears to have mainly consisted of wild fava beans, blood and grapes) and ...

The first time I tried to write something about the agriculture of Tuysáfa I actually took that into account, but for some reason when I tried to search for "rice" on the wiki more recently, I only turned up later vocabulary. I must have overlooked something. Neither the Proto-Peninsular lexicon no...

CatDoom wrote:Are these, like, uninflected stems, or fully inflected forms?

Those Mohawk words are all fully inflected verbs (even "Sunday"), some of them including incorporated noun stems, and the translations Mithun gives are quite free and leave out some detail in order to make them flow better in English.

Old Albic casadlath ['kɐsɐdlɐθ] → Ndak Ta kasadlat [ˈkasɐdlɐt] → Adāta kālat [ˈkaːlat] Old Albic caseplath ['kɐsɛplɐθ] → Ndak Ta kaseplat [ˈkasɛplɐt] → Adāta kālat [ˈkaːlat] Old Albic casadlath ['kɐsɐdlɐθ] → Ndak Ta kasadlat [ˈkasɐdlɐt] → Adāta kālat [ˈkaːlat] Old Albic cesith ['kɛsɪθ] → Ndak Ta kes...

@Zju: The distribution of flora and fauna in Akana has never been worked out systematically via conworlding, only etymologically via analysing the existing conlang vocabularies like CatDoom has done above. There have been a few earlier attempts though; one or two might be buried somewhere in this th...

Dumic languages: - Tetlo is spoken between Tetey and Potɑnsʉti. Tetey could move slightly towards the west (but only so much that it's still spoken in the mountains). - Swopsoch is spoken on the first island east of the peninsula occupied by Jouki Stəy. T1 languages: - Arāni has been discontinued, ...

I see. Another question: Can /l̃ ɾ̃ ɭ̃/ appear word-initially before an oral vowel? (/w̃ j̃/ apparently can, but it's easier to romanize these two anyway...)

Nice! Exact spelling rules of nasal(ised) segments are still TBD. In which positions exactly are the nasalised vowels and the nasalised sonorants contrastive (phonemically, not morphophonologically)? Specifically, is there a full contrast between e.g.: [w̃ã] :: [w̃a] :: [ʋa] [ãw̃ã] :: [ãw̃a] :: [ãʋa...

UDC taving [ˈtaʋiŋ] → Proto-Western *tʰawĩ [ˈtʰɑwĩ] → Gezoro tʰɔwa [ˈtʰɔwa] UDC pāvarlaciprang [ˈpaːʋaɾlat̠ʲipɾaŋ] → Proto-Western *pʰawaγlačipłã [ˈpʰɑwɑˌɣlɑtʃipɬɑ̃] → Gezoro pʰɔujɔlepla [ˌpʰɔʊjɔˈlepla] UDC vaccayu [ˈʋat̠t̠ʲaju] → Proto-Western *waʔčayu [ˈwɑʔtʃɑju] → Gezoro wɔ:tsɔe [ˈwɔːtsɔɪ] UDC pa...

Just so you know it the next time, there is a grammaticalisation quickie thread as well. I don't see anyone using that thread anymore... That's no reason not to use it. As a quickie thread, it can always be used for new quick questions. (The reason it fell out of use is probably simply that at one ...

Vian wqtlipyap [wɒ́lìjà] → Proto-Western waliya [wɑlijɑ] → Gezoro wɔri [ˈwɔɾi] Vian tzntkuppqpxypchap [tə́ɴkùpɒ̀ʃʒ̩̀tʃà] → Proto-Western tẽkupawšica [tɛ̃kupɑwʃitsɑ] → Gezoro tɜ̃kɔpɔusets [tɜ̃kɔˈpɔʊsets] Vian pvshutneptap [pʙ̩̄ʃúnèɴtà] → Proto-Western pʰušunẽta [pʰuʃunɛ̃tɑ] → Gezoro pʰulnat [ˈpʰulnat...

I have just uploaded an Early Gezoro version of "The horse and the sheep" to the wiki. Kind of weird to write a text in a Western language which has shifted to SVO with NOM-ACC alignment, but it seems to work out fine. (And I think I've found a way to motivate the strange obligatory affirmative part...

Both of those variants are grammatical and natural, so it's mainly a matter of style. The first option "den V. bereits mehrmals zu töten versucht hat" sounds a bit more formal and would be preferred in writing, while the second option "den V. bereits mehrmals versucht hat zu töten" sounds more collo...

How do I arrive at the situation where the PST prefix is nu-, the PST-PROG prefix is yo-, the FUT prefix is ?a-, and the PRES-PROG prefix is hu-? Apparently just saying the morphology and affixes were borrowed from another language is "lazy"... You could say they were grammaticalised from earlier t...

How do I arrive at the situation where the PST prefix is nu-, the PST-PROG prefix is yo-, the FUT prefix is ?a-, and the PRES-PROG prefix is hu-? Apparently just saying the morphology and affixes were borrowed from another language is "lazy"... You could say they were grammaticalised from earlier t...