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- Fri May 31, 2013 8:03 am
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Txeumé
- Replies: 25
- Views: 11388
Re: Txeumé
Nice orthography. Do you have a historical background for it? I understand, "prestressed" is first pretonic, as opposed to both posttonic and further pretonic? (the distinction is inspired by Russian vowel reduction rules, I believe?) Couldn't instantly figure out how the coda consonants are used in...
- Wed May 29, 2013 11:44 am
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Old Pyrian
- Replies: 48
- Views: 11496
Re: Old Pyrian
Don't pretend that your language is an IE one. Stick to those design features which you really like.DePaw wrote:Suggestions then?
(You may still keep much of the diachronics if you sketch a protolanguage vaguely resembling PIE.)
- Tue May 28, 2013 7:50 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: "Canadian raising": expert opinions needed
- Replies: 99
- Views: 361925
Re: "Canadian raising": expert opinions needed
I dunno. The article I posted the link to somewhere upstream mentioned raised vowels in ninth and pint for Canadian English (or a variety thereof?), i. e. basically what you have in your lect? Okay, in my dialect, ninth and pint have short but unraised vowels, i.e. not all short historical /aɪ̯/ no...
- Mon May 27, 2013 7:08 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: "Canadian raising": expert opinions needed
- Replies: 99
- Views: 361925
Re: "Canadian raising": expert opinions needed
I dunno. The article I posted the link to somewhere upstream mentioned raised vowels in ninth and pint for Canadian English (or a variety thereof?), i. e. basically what you have in your lect?
- Mon May 27, 2013 5:36 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: "Canadian raising": expert opinions needed
- Replies: 99
- Views: 361925
Re: "Canadian raising": expert opinions needed
prefortis clipping Well, no. Pairs like hire vs. higher contain no postvocalic obstruent, and there seem to be other interesting contexts before non-obstruents. For example: * nine , ninth , ninety , nineteen ; pint ; tiny , spiny ; dryness , minus ; miner , minor ; angina ; * while , whilst ; mile...
- Mon May 27, 2013 4:32 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: "Canadian raising": expert opinions needed
- Replies: 99
- Views: 361925
Re: "Canadian raising": expert opinions needed
It is not that surprising, since Canadian Raising in Canadian English is the trivial case, i.e. purely allophonic raising of /aɪ̯/ and /aʊ̯/ before fortis obstruents, without any further complications. What? Didn't you read the thread at all? This was funny... because for me, like, 80% of interesti...
- Mon May 27, 2013 4:17 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Two tools for conlangers
- Replies: 23
- Views: 8189
Re: Two tools for conlangers
Cool! Thank you, Cedh, especially for the Frequentizer! Also, I suspect the Derivizer can be used to generate paradigms, with only minor modifications? The Frequentizer would be even nicer if it reported rhyme frequencies, and also if it could count the absence of codas as null codas. And zero onsets?
- Sun May 05, 2013 4:51 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Akana Conlang Relay 2011 (The Never Ending Relay)
- Replies: 428
- Views: 150014
Re: Akana Conlang Relay 2011 (The Never Ending Relay)
Well, you can quickstart just comparing words with the same meaning – and it would be trivially easy to prepare, e.g. by combining all the lexicons to one table and then sorting by the definitions in that way (just an example; not all the available lexicons have been added). That could be done pret...
- Sun May 05, 2013 10:44 am
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Akana Conlang Relay 2011 (The Never Ending Relay)
- Replies: 428
- Views: 150014
Re: Akana Conlang Relay 2011 (The Never Ending Relay)
Lately I've been working on another T2 language (which the other T2 members may remember as "Tetlo"). I don't think it's really needed for reconstruction, but I want to have it completed anyway, and I kinda feel obliged not to engage in anything time-consuming before I'm finished with it. It's been ...
- Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:24 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: "Canadian raising": expert opinions needed
- Replies: 99
- Views: 361925
Re: "Canadian raising": expert opinions needed
High school seems to be an isolated case of phonological rules overcoming blocking by morphology and analogy, which are the norm for practically all words here, rather than a case of sound change not being erased by subsequent analogy; if it were, we would expect to see more words that would have e...
- Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:49 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: "Canadian raising": expert opinions needed
- Replies: 99
- Views: 361925
Re: "Canadian raising": expert opinions needed
For instance hire /həɪ̯ər/ but hiring /həɪ̯rɪŋ/ and fire /fəɪ̯ər/ but firing /fəɪ̯rɪŋ/... Are you citing the forms of your own lect? What do you have in higher , buyer and diary ?' Yes, and in higher . buyer , and diary I all have /əɪ̯ər/. That is, higher = hire ? Also, it seems that you have diffe...
- Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:00 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: "Canadian raising": expert opinions needed
- Replies: 99
- Views: 361925
Re: "Canadian raising": expert opinions needed
From everything I have read, morpheme boundaries affecting phonology is not controversial, as much as some would like to separate phonology from morphology.. I was speaking of an interface directly connecting morphology and *phonetics*, and ignoring phonology as the mediating layer. Which may lead ...
- Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:26 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Constructing a proper descendant of English
- Replies: 46
- Views: 12745
Re: Constructing a proper descendant of English
"I'm doing good" instead of "well". For some reason I can't think of more examples off of the top of my head, though I know that it occurs fairly often in daily conversation. Some people just can't speak proper. You mean that they don't know how not to speak incorrect. Yet, they think they talk Eng...
- Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:09 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: "Canadian raising": expert opinions needed
- Replies: 99
- Views: 361925
Re: "Canadian raising": expert opinions needed
For instance hire /həɪ̯ər/ but hiring /həɪ̯rɪŋ/ and fire /fəɪ̯ər/ but firing /fəɪ̯rɪŋ/... Are you citing the forms of your own lect? What do you have in higher , buyer and diary ? Also, it seems that you have differentiated vowels in both eyeful-Eiffel and rider-spider , right? (Now that I think of...
- Thu Apr 25, 2013 3:29 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Genetics/Sex question
- Replies: 37
- Views: 10452
Re: Genetics/Sex question
Every mutation that breaks the system will lead to increased fertility.
- Thu Apr 25, 2013 3:26 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
- Replies: 2827
- Views: 704604
Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread
What's a cool vowel shift I could do with these vowels? For me, "cool" isn't specific enough. Also, some context. Phonotactics - ancestral, target state? Morphological effects that you'd like to have or rather avoid (umlaut etc.)? Contrasts on consonants prone to interact with vowel qualities - pal...
- Thu Apr 25, 2013 3:03 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: "Canadian raising": expert opinions needed
- Replies: 99
- Views: 361925
Re: "Canadian raising": expert opinions needed
For example...?Travis B. wrote:That the first class is actually /aɪ̯r/ is shown by how related words with vowels following the /r/ do not undergo syllabification of /r/.
- Thu Apr 25, 2013 3:00 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
- Replies: 2827
- Views: 704604
Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread
ɬ -> l / _[Back or Low vowel] ɬ -> ɮ / _[Front and high Vowel] or just ɬ -> ɮ / _[Vowel] The latter is easier, but I can imagine the former happening, too. Especially if there'd already been a phonemic /l/, and the lateral obstruents were originally slightly palatalized (which seems common). Would ...
- Thu Apr 25, 2013 2:45 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Constructing a proper descendant of English
- Replies: 46
- Views: 12745
Re: Constructing a proper descendant of English
Some people just can't speak proper.Adjective Recoil wrote:"I'm doing good" instead of "well". For some reason I can't think of more examples off of the top of my head, though I know that it occurs fairly often in daily conversation.
- Thu Apr 25, 2013 2:39 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Genetics/Sex question
- Replies: 37
- Views: 10452
Re: Genetics/Sex question
It's true as Torco says that if A+B can only have A and B children, then it might happen that some genders die out. But it doesn't have to happen (within a reasonable timeframe). Note that the time frame needed here is probably not just one species' history, for (their equivalent of) sapientization...
- Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:52 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: "Canadian raising": expert opinions needed
- Replies: 99
- Views: 361925
Re: "Canadian raising": expert opinions needed
...Also, I'm a bit confused by lack of comments from our resident Canadian residents.
Please come out, people. The dialects you speak and/or hear around you are cool. Also, the Science of Linguistics needs you as her Consultants.
TELL SOMETHING ABOUT YOUR LECT AND BE FAMOUS!!! oops, wrong forum...
Please come out, people. The dialects you speak and/or hear around you are cool. Also, the Science of Linguistics needs you as her Consultants.
- Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:50 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: "Canadian raising": expert opinions needed
- Replies: 99
- Views: 361925
Re: "Canadian raising": expert opinions needed
OK. Prefortis clipping. No telepathy, just a less commonly registered phonetic mechanism. However, typical Canadian accents don't seem to be like those "flapping" ones which differentiate between e. g. utter and udder . At any rate, it has been repeatedly stated in the literature about CR that words...
- Sat Apr 20, 2013 7:21 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: "Canadian raising": expert opinions needed
- Replies: 99
- Views: 361925
Re: "Canadian raising": expert opinions needed
Travis: yes, this is a valid argument. For me, the main potential counter-argument would be about chronology. Like, the prevailing realizations throughout the 18th century were such that would be classified as "raised" today. Then we need a change to lowered realizations complete all over a huge ter...
- Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:57 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Genetics/Sex question
- Replies: 37
- Views: 10452
Re: Genetics/Sex question
Well sure but that might well be due to the specific way in which our genetic molecule, or recombination mechanism, or something, happens. All such things are also present in hermaphrodites etc. <...> unless there's a god <...> I wouldn't mind, but I didn't mean that. Actually, it's not too difficu...
- Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:47 am
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Genetics/Sex question
- Replies: 37
- Views: 10452
Re: Genetics/Sex question
So the two sex system works and that's why it works, but its probably due as much to chance and blind mutation as it is to the fact that it functions: if the common ancestor of all eukariots had been different, possibly we'd all be hermaphrodites, or maybe something funkier [like when two organisms...