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- Thu Sep 05, 2013 12:03 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Wenetic Scratchpad- NP: Gods above.
- Replies: 82
- Views: 35405
Re: Wenetic Scratchpad- Now Playing: "Too Many Pronouns?"
Why is the length retained in padḗ? I'm not sure what you're getting at here: to my knowledge there's nothing in my sound changes that would indicate it wouldn't be? Osthoff's Law: long vowels become short in closed syllables where the coda consonant is a sonorant. *gʰḗr > *kʰér Though having looke...
- Thu Sep 05, 2013 6:10 am
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Wenetic Scratchpad- NP: Gods above.
- Replies: 82
- Views: 35405
Re: Wenetic Scratchpad- Now Playing: "Too Many Pronouns?"
Why is the length retained in padḗ? Why does dûma have initial accent in the nom/acc/loc sg, but final in the dat/gen sg? Didn't Hirt's law operate there? *yo- also functions as a personal pronoun in Slavic (intermixing with *so-/*h₁eno-): OCS acc. masc. sg и, Pl. acc. neut. sg / acc nonvir. pl je.
- Thu Aug 29, 2013 7:59 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Lil' or no irrealis marking
- Replies: 11
- Views: 2652
Re: Lil' or no irrealis marking
I believe Esperanto counts as (3). But you're probably more interested in natlangs... Hungarian uses the (overtly marked) subjunctive mood as an imperative. Esperanto does indeed distinguish between parolus vs parolu . However the latter one seems to be described as more generic "volitive mood", so...
- Thu Aug 29, 2013 4:11 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Lil' or no irrealis marking
- Replies: 11
- Views: 2652
Re: Lil' or no irrealis marking
I believe Esperanto counts as (3). But you're probably more interested in natlangs... Hungarian uses the (overtly marked) subjunctive mood as an imperative.
- Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:44 am
- Forum: None of the above
- Topic: What are you listening to? -- Non-English Edition
- Replies: 1735
- Views: 368533
- Tue Jul 09, 2013 3:33 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: sources for person & number agreement
- Replies: 62
- Views: 11682
Re: sources for person & number agreement
In English I've only seen this when one is going for a 'retarded' effect ( u mad?) or in this special 'adjoined' clause type (she rushed at him, her hair dishevelled.) In normal spoken English this actually isn't uncommon at all with questions. "You mad?" is very natural (in fact, I'm sure I say it...
- Tue Jul 09, 2013 6:34 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: sources for person & number agreement
- Replies: 62
- Views: 11682
Re: sources for person & number agreement
In colloquial Polish it's very common to drop the copula in case of adjectival predicates having nouns as subjects, e.g. dzień już krótki "day [is] already short" (while in case of nominal predicates it's marginal at best*). In English I've only seen this when one is going for a 'retarded' effect ( ...
- Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:15 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Slavic /x/
- Replies: 5
- Views: 1865
Re: Slavic /x/
There are words with #x- which seem to include an s-mobile, tho’, for instance Pl. chropawy, dial. chropa (vs. Lith. karpa; also cf. an OPl. deadjectival noun: skorpawość); Pl. szydzić < Common Sl. *šuditi (vs *kuditi); maybe *xoldъ (cf. Germanic kalt, cold); *xromъ (vs *kroma). So three of these ex...
- Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:02 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: [r]
- Replies: 24
- Views: 5240
Re: [r]
That numa numa song has so many slavic borrowings it's not even funny. Dragostea < Dragost' Iubi- < Ljubi- Haiduc < Hajduk Voinic < Vojnik Ochii < Oko's plural reanalyzed I wish we had kept Wallachia as a fief, and more thoroughly Bulgarized it. Or at least that the Vlachs themselves hadn't gone so...
- Sat Jun 08, 2013 8:10 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Middle English q
- Replies: 1
- Views: 1165
Middle English q
The sporadic <au> for Modern English <a> before /n/ (straunge, Caunterbury), what did it indicate? Was there a diphthong in those words or maybe a back rounded vowel? I've been toying with an alternative orthography dating back to that period and I'm not sure how to transcribe the mentioned words.
- Sun Jun 02, 2013 8:22 am
- Forum: None of the above
- Topic: What are you listening to? -- Non-English Edition
- Replies: 1735
- Views: 368533
Re: What are you listening to? -- Non-English Edition
Гайдамаки — Про Андрія Asonance - Alasdair syn Collův I don't know why the Slavic peoples have such a fascination with the Celts, but the upshot is that there's a band singing Alasdair Mhic Cholla Ghasda. In Czech. This is awesome. P.S. They also have a Czech version of Canan nan Gàidheal, which is ...
- Sun Jun 02, 2013 5:31 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: [r]
- Replies: 24
- Views: 5240
Re: [r]
Personally I've known or met quite a few Polish speakers who substituted something non-standard for the /r/. Now I am usually able to say [r] when I want to... IMO the hardest part is combining it with various other consonants and sequences like rVr, rCr — they can be a bitch to pronounce especially...
- Thu May 16, 2013 3:55 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Re: Help me with semantic examples! (from Zomp's blog)
- Replies: 218
- Views: 41204
Re: Help me with semantic examples! (from Zomp's blog)
An albo vs lub distinction?linguoboy wrote: This reminds me of the (somewhat different) vel vs aut distinction in Latin and the corresponding albo vs lub distinction in Polish.
- Tue Apr 02, 2013 4:02 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Are there any languages that have both /ts/ & /tɕ/ phonemes?
- Replies: 107
- Views: 22760
Re: Are there any languages that have both /ts/ & /tɕ/ phone
/ʃ/ seems more familiar because it fits western European (=normal, civilized, Christian etc.) languages. When you check how it's defined in the IPA chart you realize the symbol is just unsuited for Polish and its use is misleading, you could easily get a wrong idea about the actual pronunciation. /ʂ...
- Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:47 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Are there any languages that have both /ts/ & /tɕ/ phonemes?
- Replies: 107
- Views: 22760
Re: Are there any languages that have both /ts/ & /tɕ/ phone
Polish: ... /t͡s̠/ is (5) from the first regressive palatalization of *k, also from (6) *stj ( → ʃt͡ʃ → s̠t͡s̠). I assume you mean <cz> and <szcz>? (I've never seen them described like that ... only as either tʃ ʃtʃ or tʂ ʂtʂ.) FWIW, from what I've heard, both in person (immigrants tho, so it's pos...
- Mon Apr 01, 2013 1:54 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Are there any languages that have both /ts/ & /tɕ/ phonemes?
- Replies: 107
- Views: 22760
Re: Are there any languages that have both /ts/ & /tɕ/ phone
Polish: /t͡s/ is (1) from the Slavic second regressive palatalization and (2) from the progressive palatalization (of *k in both instances), (3) also from Common Slavic *tj (an instance of iotation), /t͡ɕ/ is (4) from *t before a Common Slavic front vowel, /t͡s̠/ is (5) from the first regressive pal...
- Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:13 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Genitive Marker to Subject Marker.
- Replies: 23
- Views: 5225
Re: Genitive Marker to Subject Marker.
As for the (perceived) genitive > ergative development, I can see at least two hypothetical scenarios: 1) both genitive and ergative derive from a sort of ablative case: Y verb-INTR from X > X-erg verb Y Y from X > X's Y 2) the language's basic simple clause structure derives from an action nominal ...
- Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:46 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Slavic phonology question
- Replies: 3
- Views: 1517
Re: Slavic phonology question
Well, the Common Slavic *č, š, ž, ǯ were most likely palatoalveolar. In some of the daughter languages a part of them later depalatalized, becoming pure postalveolars devoid of any palatal element. This change would also project to a following /i/, which was backed (in Polish this is reflected ortho...
- Tue Nov 20, 2012 5:40 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Very quick question about IE mediopassive cause I am lazy
- Replies: 11
- Views: 2862
Re: Very quick question about IE mediopassive cause I am laz
I'm curious what's the origin of the Common Slavic *-tъ ending. The other variant *-tь apparently continues *-ti, the former one looks as if it's descended from -tu or maybe -to (the final o > ъ in Slavic appears to be quite selective, though, if it's a real sound change in this position). Another p...
- Tue Sep 18, 2012 2:14 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Polysemy in function/non-lexical words.
- Replies: 37
- Views: 7401
Re: Polysemy in function/non-lexical words.
It's not some kind of crazy amazing coincidence that we use "that" in English, and "que" in French, for both types of embedding. Languages don't have to use the same mechanisms for both (again, off the top of my head, Russian and Mandarin don't), but it's no great surprise that some do. In colloqui...
- Sun Sep 02, 2012 1:40 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Motion verbs and deictic distinctions
- Replies: 18
- Views: 3544
Re: Motion verbs and deictic distinctions
Moanaka, Salmoneus, thanks for your responses. So English come seems to differ from German kommen in this respect - at least, to me the German equivalent seems natural: A: "Ich habe gehört, dass Jim zu Bills Party gehen wollte." B: "Soweit ich weiß, ist er nicht dorthin gekommen, aber ich war nicht...
- Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:07 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Spanish Questions
- Replies: 44
- Views: 7855
Re: Spanish Questions
To me it's mostly a boring, typical perfective-imperfective distinction. There's probably this and that other special case, but for the most part estuvo is a past tense perfective aspect, seeing the time frame where something was something as a finished, bounded event; and era a past tense imperfec...
- Wed Aug 22, 2012 5:30 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Spanish Questions
- Replies: 44
- Views: 7855
Re: Spanish Questions
¿Cuándo estuvo el doctor? ¿Cuándo está el doctor generalmente? What's the difference between fue and era ( estaba/estuvo )?The perfectivization of stative verbs in Spanish can be rather tricky but mostly comprehensible, however the 'be'-verbs seem to be the trickiest of all. I thought that 'estuvo'...
- Wed Aug 22, 2012 3:54 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Diachronics of clicks?
- Replies: 12
- Views: 4119
Re: Diachronics of clicks?
Ladefoged wrote in his course in phonetics that the Western African labial-velar coarticulates (e.g. in Yoruba) tended to have a bit of the lingual (velaric) airstream mechanism. "During the labial and velar closures, the back of the tongue sometimes moves slightly farther back, creating a slight su...
- Thu Aug 02, 2012 9:03 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Wicked kinship terminology
- Replies: 15
- Views: 3528
Re: Wicked kinship terminology
Unsurprisingly Serbian terminology is pretty much the same, however WTF: grandmother - baba grandgrandmother - prababa gggmother - čukunbaba ggggmother - navrnbaba granddaughter - unuka ggdaughter - praunuka gggdaughter - čukununuka ggggdaughter (see ggggson) grandfather - deda ggfather - pradeda g...