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So, uh, I hope this is the right thread for my question/idea. I just don't want to open a new thread for my quick question and it's quite related anyway. I read this entire thread a while back and I don't think my idea has been discussed before. So, I was browsing a Hittite etymological dictionary (...

I can only agree with the posts above and would like to add that, given that you derive your conlang from a protolang, also sound changes go hand in hand with grammar and lexicon. However, it's still possible to toy around with first random words, ideas, prototypes in the form of word roots without ...

/i y u/ <i ü u> Umlauts aren't allowed, as stated in my post you referred to :) interesting variant, though. Here's my (former) solution I personally find to be aesthetically pleasing while being a complete mess from an outside view. That's why I was looking for a better alternative. /m n/ <m n> /p...

Both variants look quite appealing. I think I will choose a mix of those two romanizations. Thanks for the effort.

I could need some help with Romanization of my currrent project. Nothing too fancy, but I want it to be aesthetically pleasing. /m n/ /p p' t t' c c' k k' k w k w ' ʔ/ /ts ts'/ /t͡ɬ/ /θ s ʃ x h ħ/ /ʋ~w/ /ɾ r r:/ (no typo, they are indeed contrastive) /l~ɬ j/ /i y u/ /ɨ/ /e ə/ /a~ɑ/ Rules: - no umlau...

I'm proud to finally have a first more or less stable phonology for my PIE based conlang, currently named East Nisha . In terms of phonology and morphology it comes close to Anatolian languages, does not exhibit any fancy, unique features so that it is quite easy to recognize it as an IE lang. Conso...

Here's a very early sketch of the phonology of my Eastern Nisha language, which is, in contrast to Western Nisha, a direct descendant of PIE. It's currently in early development stage and still needs lot of work. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated, since I'm not quite sure whether such a phon...

While Nisha is quite agglutinative, it doesn't really possess long words, the longest verb is "ta'abul- " (to work) and with all possible prefixes, infixes and suffixes attached, there would be something like this: yanyuwata'abuliya 1PS.NEG.FUT.root.PRES (I won't work) -iy- represents the present te...

Ercunich siuchí [ʃiuxʲiː] → Nisha sxiyuhiyah [ʃijuxija:]
Ercunich dách [daːx] → Nisha daah [da:χ]
Ercunich tushiach [tuʃiax] → Nisha tusxiyah [tuʃija:]
Ercunich cishighá [kʲiʃiɣaː] → Nisha kyisxiyah [kʲiʃija:]

Pyimaminaa yawita'abuliya, sxin yuwiquminitiya familiyamaaq. Sulaam ki ta'abuliya nawitatiin?

At first I'll to go work, later I'll go to dinner with my family. Am I the only one who has to work on christmas?

Bol Ou šówiya ['ʃowija] > Nisha [ʃuwi:ja]
Bol Ou cíta ['tʃita] > Nisha [tʃitah]
Bol Ou tówose ['towoze] > Nisha [tuwuzija:h]
Bol Ou ewiyeyáagi [ewije'jaːgi] > Nisha [ʔiwʒijaɢi]

Where did you get the Chemnitz German phonology from? tliñan hol (/t͡ɬɪŋɑn xol/) /m n ŋ/ <m n ñ> /pʰ b tʰ ɖ qʰ ʔ/ <p b t d qh q> /t͡ɬ t͡ʃ d͡ʒ q͡χ/ <tl č dž x> /v ʂ x ɣ/ <v s h g> /w r l j/ <w r l y> /ɑ ɛ ɪ o u/ <a e i o u> /ɑʔ ɛʔ ɪʔ oʔ uʔ/ <aq eq iq oq uq> /t͡ɬɪŋɑn xol jɛd͡ʒxɑɖ d͡ʒɪnmol t͡ʃuʔ ʔox q͡...

What leads from ZERO to /ħ/? Is /autem/ to /ħad/ plausible?

And also, which was highly disputed: How can CVn clustrers turn into CʲV? Like, /cant-are/ into /kyat-/?

Sorry for the delay as I have plenty stuff to do. Nisha historically had many consonant clusters just as Latin had, since it is basically a rip-off. Since the beginning of development many consonant clusters disappeared by inserting vowels and in the latest and current stage palatalization set in in...

Hathe kakèvise [kagəʋisə̥]-> Nisha kagawisa [kaɢavisa]
Hathe sūrose [sʊˤːɾosə̥] -> Nisha suhurusa [suħurusa]
Hathe mèviyesa [məʋijezɒ] -> Nisha mawiyiza [mawiʲiθa]
Hathe kūva [kʊˤːwɒ] -> Nisha kuhuwa [kuħuwa]

@mezziah: What's the distribution of the palatalized consonants? Are they more common than non-palatalized consonants before front vowels but less common elsewhere, to use a fairly common pattern? Do they contrast with sequences of a consonant and /j/? Also, I'm kind of curious about something. Con...

I could need a new romanization for my conlang, somehow I begin to dislike the usage of trigraphs for some consonants. My own script, based on Proto-Semitic alphabet, heavily remodelled to look a bit like Japanese Hiragana and also a syllabic script, is on the way and close to finalization and costs...

Nasals: /m n ɲ/ <m n ñ> Plosives: /p b t̪ d̪ k g/ <p b t d k g> Fricatives: /f v s̠ z̠ s̪ z̪/ <f v sx zx s z> Liquids: /l r/ <l r> Approximants: /j/ <y> Affricates: /ts̠ dz̠/ <c j> Unstressed vowels: /ɐ e ɪ o ʊ/ <ë e i o u> Stressed short: /a ε~æ e i ɔ~ɒ o u/ <a à e i ó o u> Stressed long: /aː εː eː...

Jesus ahuanyazxuviyaat kii.
Jesus NOM 3PS.FUT.NEG.help.PRES.2PS ITRG "who"
[xisus 'awan̪ʲaʒuviʲa:t ki:]
Jesus won't help you with that.

Kahituyunti qaha [qɑhɑ] → Modern Nisha quhunyah [quħun̪ʲa:]

Tthasghw chàdzhà [tʃa˨.dʒa˨] > Modern Nisha txaazx [t͡ʃa:ʒ]

(even though a solution like chacha, as above, would've been more realistic)

A longer chain representing my language tree.

Old Albic otha ['ɔθɐ] -> Proto-Para-Nisha *ote [ɔtə] -> Loraloi ote [otə] -> Middle Nisha utea /ʔʊtɛa/ (exact pronunciation unknown) -> Modern Nisha yuziyaa [juθija:h]

Msérsca ocía [uˈciːjɔ] → Modern Nisha utxiyuh [ʔut͡ʃiju:]

Kutorene kejoëdej [kexojedex] -> Modern Nisha kàhuyitynàh [kæxujitʲnæχ]

Meylandisk jhedwâ [çəðvɑ̃] → Modern Nisha sxidahuaa [ʃid̪awa:]