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- Fri Nov 11, 2016 5:39 pm
- Forum: L&L Museum
- Topic: Bizarre Sound Changes
- Replies: 190
- Views: 103528
Re: Bizarre Sound Changes
English ɡenerally has [ɻ] or [ɹ] while some dialects have [ʁ] Which English dialects have [ʁ]???? [ɔzɛʁ zan fʁɛnʃ pipɔl]??? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northumbrian_Burr It's apparently somewhat out-dated and pretty rare, though... Someone posted on here a long time ago a link that showed that in ...
- Fri Nov 11, 2016 5:31 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Native speakers giving misleading information
- Replies: 86
- Views: 26754
Re: Native speakers giving misleading information
I've noticed that a lot of younger Minnesotans having "accent denial", that is, thinking they speak General American, even when their accent is pretty clear. I suspect it is because a lot of people think a "Minnesota Accent" is their grandparents' immigrant-influenced affectations.
- Fri Nov 11, 2016 5:23 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Gulf-golf merger and the diachronics of /ʌl/ > /ɔl/ in NAE
- Replies: 10
- Views: 4846
Re: Gulf-golf merger and the diachronics of /ʌl/ > /ɔl/ in N
Yes, my single low-back vowel varies from [ɑ] to [ɔ] depending on environment.Travis B. wrote:Are you cot-caught merged?TaylorS wrote:I also appear to have a form of this merger, though the merged vowel can vary from /ʌ/ to /ɑ/. depending on how strongly the word is stressed.
- Sat Nov 05, 2016 10:12 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
- Replies: 3108
- Views: 748823
Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
Nynorsk/Bokmål aren't something that's a part of my normal spoken vocab so I can't say for sure I'd nativize them if they ever came up, when reading my "mental voice" doesn't. Friulian: fɻˁʷɪʉ̯ɫiɨn Nynorsk: nʏno̞ʂk ~ nɪʉ̯no̞ɻsk Bokmål: buk̚mo̞l ~ bɒk̚mɒɫ Belarus: bɛɫəɻˁʷʉʊ̯s [fɹʷiːˈɯːɫjɘn] [ˈniːnɔɹ...
- Sat Nov 05, 2016 9:49 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
- Replies: 3108
- Views: 748823
Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
Three Arthritis Asthma They Brother I pronounce them as closely as I can to RP (sorry America, I don't like [ɹ̠ʷ]): [ˈθɹ̠ʷiː] [ˈɑːθɹ̠ʷäɪ̯tɪs] [ˈæsθmə] [ðe̞ɪ̯] [bɹ̠ʷɒðə], but I still (it's 3 years since I discovered IPA etc.) can't distinguish 'three'-'free' and 'breathe'-'breve' and I want to ask y...
- Sat Nov 05, 2016 9:32 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Gulf-golf merger and the diachronics of /ʌl/ > /ɔl/ in NAE
- Replies: 10
- Views: 4846
Re: Gulf-golf merger and the diachronics of /ʌl/ > /ɔl/ in N
I also appear to have a form of this merger, though the merged vowel can vary from /ʌ/ to /ɑ/. depending on how strongly the word is stressed.
- Sat Nov 05, 2016 7:50 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: H/æ/lloween versus H/ɑ/lloween
- Replies: 17
- Views: 5355
Re: H/æ/lloween versus H/ɑ/lloween
I say /æ/, I assume because I pronounce "hallow" with an /æ/.
- Sat Jan 16, 2016 4:29 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The Innovative Usage Thread
- Replies: 2452
- Views: 478833
Re: The Innovative Usage Thread
I think I am being assimilated into the "on accident" areal zone...
- Sat Jan 16, 2016 3:50 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: European languages before Indo-European
- Replies: 812
- Views: 225784
Re: European languages before Indo-European
It's so nice when my own conjectures are corraborated.Salmoneus wrote:Ockham's Razor suggests the Beakerfolk in Ireland were probably IE-speakers, of an unknown early branch, perhaps or perhaps not a cousin of Italo-Celtic (perhaps Lusitanian is a parallel here - similar things have been suggested for it).
- Sat Oct 31, 2015 8:24 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Post your conlang's phonology
- Replies: 2278
- Views: 560743
Re: Post your conlang's phonology
NW European language isolate with French-influenced orthography: /m n ɲ/ m n gn /p t tʃ k/ p t ch c /b d dʒ g/ b d j g /f s ʃ x/ f s sh h /j l r~ʁ/ y l r / ɛ e i/ ai e i /a œ ø y/ a eu oi u / ɔ o u/ au o ou Fricatives are voiced between vowels. Voiceless stops are lightly aspirated. Syllable-initial...
- Sat Oct 31, 2015 7:33 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: European languages before Indo-European
- Replies: 812
- Views: 225784
Re: European languages before Indo-European
Actually, I think that quite supports my line of argument. What we see is that time and again, when there have been major technological developments, like agriculture or pastoralism or metallurgy, there have been big family expansions. We can even see that this has happened in pre-agricultural soci...
- Sat Oct 31, 2015 7:22 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: European languages before Indo-European
- Replies: 812
- Views: 225784
Re: European languages before Indo-European
The comparison to California and North America seems unjustified to me. In Europe at the time of the IE influx, we are dealing with settled agricultural communities, the product of relatively recent influx and population expansion with the spread of agriculture. The result is a relatively genetical...
- Fri Oct 23, 2015 10:01 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: European languages before Indo-European
- Replies: 812
- Views: 225784
Re: European languages before Indo-European
This is indeed interesting. Yet, I would be very careful linking genetic markers with language families! Language shifts are way too common to consider them a marginal phenomenon. That is very true. But in any case I really suggest getting the book, it's a great read in general despite possible fla...
- Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:20 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
- Replies: 3108
- Views: 748823
Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
/ˈhaɪku/ [ˈhʌɪkɯ]Sumelic wrote: Some additional words:
- haiku
- samurai
- ouroboros
- uroboros
/ˈsæməɹaɪ/ [ˈsæməɹˤɑɪ]
/ˌuɹoˈboɹos/ [ɹ̩ˤoˈboɹˤos]
/ˌjuɹoˈboɹos/ [jɹ̩ˤoˈboɹˤos]
- Wed Oct 21, 2015 7:45 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: European languages before Indo-European
- Replies: 812
- Views: 225784
Re: European languages before Indo-European
I can't remember if I have already mentioned it, but archaeologist Jean Manco in her book Ancestral Journeys argues that Italo-Celtic speakers had already dispersed as far as Iberia by the time that the Bell Beaker style developed (a dispersion marked by the spread of Yamnaya-type anthropomorphic s...
- Sat Oct 17, 2015 10:35 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
- Replies: 2827
- Views: 694031
Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Is /ph th kh/ > /pf ts kx/ > /f ts k/ plausible? Yes. The first step essentially happened in southern German dialects (the "Proto-German" voiceless stops probably were aspirated); /pf/ > /f/ is currently happening in German (school teachers are fighting an uphill battle against it, saying things li...
- Sat Oct 17, 2015 10:24 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
- Replies: 2827
- Views: 694031
Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Would /ðə/ > /ɣə/ > /ɰə/ > /u/ be plausible?sangi39 wrote: IIRC, /ð/ may have become /ɣ/ at some point in the history of Irish Gaelic before becoming /j/ when slender. I wonder, then if /θ/ could similarly shift to /x/. /ð/ can also become /r/ and /θ/ can become /h/.
- Sat Oct 17, 2015 10:08 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Origins of ACC
- Replies: 22
- Views: 6951
Re: Origins of ACC
Probably because it has a mind of it's own?Pole, the wrote:Similarly, penis and its synonyms tend to be animate even though other body parts don't.
- Sat Oct 17, 2015 10:07 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Origins of ACC
- Replies: 22
- Views: 6951
Re: Origins of ACC
Thank you, WeepingElf :) however, there's another question, how can an accusative marker spread to every word regardless of the definiteness or animacy? by analogy? Yes. ok :) thank you :) You can see the process at work in contemporary Spanish. Originally, a personal was only used with human objec...
- Sat Oct 17, 2015 9:57 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: European languages before Indo-European
- Replies: 812
- Views: 225784
Re: European languages before Indo-European
Ack, and I've been so busy with a new job I completely forgot about that fictional isolate that I said I was going to do! GAHHHH!
- Sat Oct 17, 2015 9:55 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: European languages before Indo-European
- Replies: 812
- Views: 225784
Re: European languages before Indo-European
I am bumping this old thread because I have changed my mind on some things. I used to maintain the idea that the Beaker culture was a movement of refugees from Central Europe, fleeing the (Indo-European) Corded Ware invasion and spreading a Central European para-IE language across Western Europe, a...
- Sat Oct 17, 2015 9:28 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
- Replies: 3108
- Views: 748823
Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
I have always heard it stressed on the 2nd syllable.linguoboy wrote:catalpa
(For those who don't know, it's the name of a native North American tree, which we called "cigar trees" growing up.)
/kəˈtælpə/
[ˈktʰæɰpə]
- Mon Apr 27, 2015 10:34 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The Innovative Usage Thread
- Replies: 2452
- Views: 478833
Re: The Innovative Usage Thread
Using they in a singular way is stupid, so I don't use it. IF you must be gender neutral, use he/she, as this is done in all sorts of publications anyway (at least they do it in Dutch, hij/zij). Swedish now also has this gender-neutral pronoun thing, and of course because Sweden is so incredibly pr...
- Wed Feb 18, 2015 12:57 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
- Replies: 2225
- Views: 518306
Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
What do you think of this ? Apparently, there is genetic evidence for a sort of a "kurgan" scenario. The IE family tree given in the paper looks nice, too, though I'd rather group Armenian with Greek than with Tocharian. (I have no opinion on the placement of Albanian, though.) four Corded Ware peo...
- Sat Jan 31, 2015 2:38 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
- Replies: 2225
- Views: 518306
Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
Hence my original question above.WeepingElf wrote:Also, languages are known to spread much faster than genes. "Language shift", i.e. communities adopting a new language, is actually quite common.