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by gmalivuk
Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:58 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The plurals of deer-like animals in English
Replies: 25
Views: 9217

Re: The plurals of deer-like animals in English

I get the impression that it is the same for all game animals - do hunters not also do the same for grouse and partridge? Yeah, that's how I understood it as well. Also consider that "deer" once was the general term for all large game, rather than specifically the medium antlered type we now associ...
by gmalivuk
Thu Jan 16, 2014 9:07 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Other linguistic treadmills?
Replies: 37
Views: 10820

Re: Other linguistic treadmills?

Yeah, "starving" still definitely can mean "dying from lack of food", just like "boiling", "freezing", "on fire", and the like can still have their literal sense in spite of expressions like "It's boiling/freezing in this room" and "less habanero next time, dude, my mouth is on fire over here".
by gmalivuk
Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:39 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Other linguistic treadmills?
Replies: 37
Views: 10820

Re: Other linguistic treadmills?

Sound change. Which sound changes are unidirectional like the semantic treadmills? Also, "hell", "damn", and "fuck" are still not polite speech. I never said "fuck" was polite, but rather that its forms had replaced "hell" and "damn" in a lot of phrases, because those two, while not nice things to ...
by gmalivuk
Tue Jan 14, 2014 6:00 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Other linguistic treadmills?
Replies: 37
Views: 10820

Other linguistic treadmills?

I suspect most of you are familiar with what Stephen Pinker calls the "euphemism treadmill", whereby words that start out as euphemisms become themselves impolite through their association with something deemed undesirable. (For example, "toilet" started out as a euphemism but now, at least in the U...
by gmalivuk
Tue Jan 14, 2014 5:48 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Innovative Usage Thread
Replies: 2452
Views: 487029

Re: The Innovative Usage Thread

It addition, to me it suggests that "large articles" are perceived as a unified class of things, the way we can talk about "big cats" or "little people" while keeping the size adjective directly before the noun instead of separating them with the usual sorts of adjectives that come between size and ...
by gmalivuk
Thu Jan 09, 2014 7:06 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Innovative Usage Thread
Replies: 2452
Views: 487029

Re: The Innovative Usage Thread

What's innovative about, "I'm a sad guy standing here today"?
by gmalivuk
Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:05 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Innovative Usage Thread
Replies: 2452
Views: 487029

Re: The Innovative Usage Thread

I don't think that analysis is correct at all. I have never seen a native speaker make most of the lolcat mistakes unless doing so intentionally, and I've never seen my ESL students produce fragments quite like the doge. There is actually some deeper analysis of this very comparison. In any case, t...
by gmalivuk
Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:07 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Innovative Usage Thread
Replies: 2452
Views: 487029

Re: The Innovative Usage Thread

I don't think that analysis is correct at all. I have never seen a native speaker make most of the lolcat mistakes unless doing so intentionally, and I've never seen my ESL students produce fragments quite like the doge. There is actually some deeper analysis of this very comparison. In any case, th...
by gmalivuk
Mon Jan 06, 2014 8:18 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Innovative Usage Thread
Replies: 2452
Views: 487029

Re: The Innovative Usage Thread

But would you accept "you can definitely see you" as grammatical, Nessari? I'm sure people would say that phrase around here, though not as a complete sentence. "You can see you have been defeated." is definitely grammatical to me. "You can see you are about to run out of time." "You can see you wi...
by gmalivuk
Sat Jan 04, 2014 12:28 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: American perceptions of British accents
Replies: 108
Views: 27562

Re: American perceptions of British accents

if they approximate RP with General American, that is to say a pan-British accent that only breaks into regional accents among ethnic minorities, dwellers in large cities, and hicks at the margins of Great Britain. I really don't think that's how most Americans perceive our own variety of accents, ...
by gmalivuk
Fri Jan 03, 2014 12:26 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: American perceptions of British accents
Replies: 108
Views: 27562

Re: American perceptions of British accents

if they approximate RP with General American, that is to say a pan-British accent that only breaks into regional accents among ethnic minorities, dwellers in large cities, and hicks at the margins of Great Britain. I really don't think that's how most Americans perceive our own variety of accents, ...
by gmalivuk
Wed Jan 01, 2014 4:30 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Innovative Usage Thread
Replies: 2452
Views: 487029

Re: The Innovative Usage Thread

Okay, so bad example. Point is there are plenty of -p words that would be hard to irregularize because there aren't similar-sounding irregular verbs to start with. Ones that likewise have /o/ as the vowel:
rope, hope, dope, mope, cope, soap, etc.
by gmalivuk
Wed Jan 01, 2014 1:42 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Innovative Usage Thread
Replies: 2452
Views: 487029

Re: The Innovative Usage Thread

I wonder if words ending in clusters/single stops that would result in a larger cluster from -d are more likely to be spontaneously given a new past tense form. Like, Chagen's example scrape ends in p and pt is a little bit difficult to say so would this change be more likely as opposed to a word l...
by gmalivuk
Tue Dec 17, 2013 7:39 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Phonemic /əɪ/ in Inland North outside of /t d/-flapping?
Replies: 13
Views: 3161

Re: Phonemic /əɪ/ in Inland North outside of /t d/-flapping?

I have this in some of those words, as well as hide (animal skin) vs. hide (and seek). I've heard of it in liar/lyre, but don't naturally pronounce it there unless I concentrate.
by gmalivuk
Mon Dec 16, 2013 10:46 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: American perceptions of British accents
Replies: 108
Views: 27562

Re: American perceptions of British accents

Ah right, West Country. And indeed, I initially thought Hagrid's accent must be from a part of England near Scotland, on account of rhoticity.
by gmalivuk
Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:32 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: American perceptions of British accents
Replies: 108
Views: 27562

Re: American perceptions of British accents

Xephyr is correct that we mostly have no way to get a handle one what the differences are or where they're from. But I think it's fair to characterize them, together, as forming an overall British accent. I don't know what features unite them, but there's clearly something - because British-ness is...
by gmalivuk
Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:20 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Innovative Usage Thread
Replies: 2452
Views: 487029

Re: The Innovative Usage Thread

Yeah, everyone knows three times is sufficient, anyway: Once for the whole paragraph or similarly-sized block of text, once for just the sentence with the objectionable material, and once for just the objectionable material itself.
by gmalivuk
Wed Nov 20, 2013 4:56 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Efficiency of languages and conlangs
Replies: 25
Views: 6949

Re: Efficiency of languages and conlangs

I'd have to find the pictures I took to be sure, but I vaguely remember Spanish consistently being longer than English translations on the informational signs at Teotihuacán. (Nahuatl was longer than both, by a large margin.) The thing about English's telegraphic headline and signage style is a good...
by gmalivuk
Mon Nov 18, 2013 5:54 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Efficiency of languages and conlangs
Replies: 25
Views: 6949

Re: Efficiency of languages and conlangs

The problem with most public signs in my experience is that they were usually translated by people more familiar with one of the languages than the other. I'm pretty sure that Spanish, like English, has a more concise way of expressing the idea that the system of intercommunication for passengers is...
by gmalivuk
Sun Nov 10, 2013 12:53 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Racist words for White People
Replies: 61
Views: 14480

Re: Racist words for White People

Does that really fit with the connotation of poor whites, though?
by gmalivuk
Sat Nov 09, 2013 5:18 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Racist words for White People
Replies: 61
Views: 14480

Re: Racist words for White People

You have a source for that? It isn't among the explanations etymonline gives.
by gmalivuk
Fri Nov 08, 2013 11:20 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: English as Fusion of French and Anglic
Replies: 54
Views: 13531

Re: English as Fusion of French and Anglic

ObsequiousNewt wrote:
Basilius wrote:But "humans are lobe-finned fish" should be valid, with this logic (and still sounds wrong to me).

Also, somebody rename this thread, please. Confusingly, it's still named "English as Fusion of French and Anglic".
That is what the thread was originally about...
Are thread topics paraphyletic?
by gmalivuk
Wed Oct 30, 2013 6:50 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: English as Fusion of French and Anglic
Replies: 54
Views: 13531

Re: English as Fusion of French and Anglic

The Google Books preview seems to include the Anglo-Norman part of that case study.
by gmalivuk
Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:38 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Racist words for White People
Replies: 61
Views: 14480

Re: Racist words for White People

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