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- Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:58 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The plurals of deer-like animals in English
- Replies: 25
- Views: 9217
Re: The plurals of deer-like animals in English
I get the impression that it is the same for all game animals - do hunters not also do the same for grouse and partridge? Yeah, that's how I understood it as well. Also consider that "deer" once was the general term for all large game, rather than specifically the medium antlered type we now associ...
- Thu Jan 16, 2014 9:07 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Other linguistic treadmills?
- Replies: 37
- Views: 10820
Re: Other linguistic treadmills?
Yeah, "starving" still definitely can mean "dying from lack of food", just like "boiling", "freezing", "on fire", and the like can still have their literal sense in spite of expressions like "It's boiling/freezing in this room" and "less habanero next time, dude, my mouth is on fire over here".
- Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:39 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Other linguistic treadmills?
- Replies: 37
- Views: 10820
Re: Other linguistic treadmills?
Sound change. Which sound changes are unidirectional like the semantic treadmills? Also, "hell", "damn", and "fuck" are still not polite speech. I never said "fuck" was polite, but rather that its forms had replaced "hell" and "damn" in a lot of phrases, because those two, while not nice things to ...
- Tue Jan 14, 2014 6:00 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Other linguistic treadmills?
- Replies: 37
- Views: 10820
Other linguistic treadmills?
I suspect most of you are familiar with what Stephen Pinker calls the "euphemism treadmill", whereby words that start out as euphemisms become themselves impolite through their association with something deemed undesirable. (For example, "toilet" started out as a euphemism but now, at least in the U...
- Tue Jan 14, 2014 5:48 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The Innovative Usage Thread
- Replies: 2452
- Views: 487029
Re: The Innovative Usage Thread
It addition, to me it suggests that "large articles" are perceived as a unified class of things, the way we can talk about "big cats" or "little people" while keeping the size adjective directly before the noun instead of separating them with the usual sorts of adjectives that come between size and ...
- Thu Jan 09, 2014 7:06 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The Innovative Usage Thread
- Replies: 2452
- Views: 487029
Re: The Innovative Usage Thread
What's innovative about, "I'm a sad guy standing here today"?
- Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:05 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The Innovative Usage Thread
- Replies: 2452
- Views: 487029
Re: The Innovative Usage Thread
I don't think that analysis is correct at all. I have never seen a native speaker make most of the lolcat mistakes unless doing so intentionally, and I've never seen my ESL students produce fragments quite like the doge. There is actually some deeper analysis of this very comparison. In any case, t...
- Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:07 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The Innovative Usage Thread
- Replies: 2452
- Views: 487029
Re: The Innovative Usage Thread
I don't think that analysis is correct at all. I have never seen a native speaker make most of the lolcat mistakes unless doing so intentionally, and I've never seen my ESL students produce fragments quite like the doge. There is actually some deeper analysis of this very comparison. In any case, th...
- Mon Jan 06, 2014 8:18 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The Innovative Usage Thread
- Replies: 2452
- Views: 487029
Re: The Innovative Usage Thread
But would you accept "you can definitely see you" as grammatical, Nessari? I'm sure people would say that phrase around here, though not as a complete sentence. "You can see you have been defeated." is definitely grammatical to me. "You can see you are about to run out of time." "You can see you wi...
- Mon Jan 06, 2014 8:13 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: American perceptions of British accents
- Replies: 108
- Views: 27562
- Sat Jan 04, 2014 12:28 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: American perceptions of British accents
- Replies: 108
- Views: 27562
Re: American perceptions of British accents
if they approximate RP with General American, that is to say a pan-British accent that only breaks into regional accents among ethnic minorities, dwellers in large cities, and hicks at the margins of Great Britain. I really don't think that's how most Americans perceive our own variety of accents, ...
- Fri Jan 03, 2014 12:26 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: American perceptions of British accents
- Replies: 108
- Views: 27562
Re: American perceptions of British accents
if they approximate RP with General American, that is to say a pan-British accent that only breaks into regional accents among ethnic minorities, dwellers in large cities, and hicks at the margins of Great Britain. I really don't think that's how most Americans perceive our own variety of accents, ...
- Wed Jan 01, 2014 4:30 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The Innovative Usage Thread
- Replies: 2452
- Views: 487029
Re: The Innovative Usage Thread
Okay, so bad example. Point is there are plenty of -p words that would be hard to irregularize because there aren't similar-sounding irregular verbs to start with. Ones that likewise have /o/ as the vowel:
rope, hope, dope, mope, cope, soap, etc.
rope, hope, dope, mope, cope, soap, etc.
- Wed Jan 01, 2014 1:42 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The Innovative Usage Thread
- Replies: 2452
- Views: 487029
Re: The Innovative Usage Thread
I wonder if words ending in clusters/single stops that would result in a larger cluster from -d are more likely to be spontaneously given a new past tense form. Like, Chagen's example scrape ends in p and pt is a little bit difficult to say so would this change be more likely as opposed to a word l...
- Tue Dec 17, 2013 7:39 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Phonemic /əɪ/ in Inland North outside of /t d/-flapping?
- Replies: 13
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Re: Phonemic /əɪ/ in Inland North outside of /t d/-flapping?
I have this in some of those words, as well as hide (animal skin) vs. hide (and seek). I've heard of it in liar/lyre, but don't naturally pronounce it there unless I concentrate.
- Mon Dec 16, 2013 10:46 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: American perceptions of British accents
- Replies: 108
- Views: 27562
Re: American perceptions of British accents
Ah right, West Country. And indeed, I initially thought Hagrid's accent must be from a part of England near Scotland, on account of rhoticity.
- Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:32 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: American perceptions of British accents
- Replies: 108
- Views: 27562
Re: American perceptions of British accents
Xephyr is correct that we mostly have no way to get a handle one what the differences are or where they're from. But I think it's fair to characterize them, together, as forming an overall British accent. I don't know what features unite them, but there's clearly something - because British-ness is...
- Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:20 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The Innovative Usage Thread
- Replies: 2452
- Views: 487029
Re: The Innovative Usage Thread
Yeah, everyone knows three times is sufficient, anyway: Once for the whole paragraph or similarly-sized block of text, once for just the sentence with the objectionable material, and once for just the objectionable material itself.
- Wed Nov 20, 2013 4:56 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Efficiency of languages and conlangs
- Replies: 25
- Views: 6949
Re: Efficiency of languages and conlangs
I'd have to find the pictures I took to be sure, but I vaguely remember Spanish consistently being longer than English translations on the informational signs at Teotihuacán. (Nahuatl was longer than both, by a large margin.) The thing about English's telegraphic headline and signage style is a good...
- Mon Nov 18, 2013 5:54 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Efficiency of languages and conlangs
- Replies: 25
- Views: 6949
Re: Efficiency of languages and conlangs
The problem with most public signs in my experience is that they were usually translated by people more familiar with one of the languages than the other. I'm pretty sure that Spanish, like English, has a more concise way of expressing the idea that the system of intercommunication for passengers is...
- Sun Nov 10, 2013 12:53 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Racist words for White People
- Replies: 61
- Views: 14480
Re: Racist words for White People
Does that really fit with the connotation of poor whites, though?
- Sat Nov 09, 2013 5:18 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Racist words for White People
- Replies: 61
- Views: 14480
Re: Racist words for White People
You have a source for that? It isn't among the explanations etymonline gives.
- Fri Nov 08, 2013 11:20 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: English as Fusion of French and Anglic
- Replies: 54
- Views: 13531
Re: English as Fusion of French and Anglic
Are thread topics paraphyletic?ObsequiousNewt wrote:That is what the thread was originally about...Basilius wrote:But "humans are lobe-finned fish" should be valid, with this logic (and still sounds wrong to me).
Also, somebody rename this thread, please. Confusingly, it's still named "English as Fusion of French and Anglic".
- Wed Oct 30, 2013 6:50 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: English as Fusion of French and Anglic
- Replies: 54
- Views: 13531
Re: English as Fusion of French and Anglic
The Google Books preview seems to include the Anglo-Norman part of that case study.
- Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:38 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Racist words for White People
- Replies: 61
- Views: 14480
Re: Racist words for White People
pay attention to how vice / similar crapshack brahmin internet outlets use the word. better yet, 'lily-white' found an example. see http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2013/10/22/two_trans_guys_have_a_son_are_they_raising_him_gender_neutral.html everyone in this story appears to be White (with the a...