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by gmalivuk
Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:30 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Innovative Usage Thread
Replies: 2452
Views: 413757

Re: The Innovative Usage Thread

Personally, I don't think the distinction between compound nouns and possession in English is a very clear one, but that's probably a matter of debate, and your mileage may vary. EDIT: I also just realized I didn't know what a "stock car" was. EDIT2: In fact, what does "the stock's car" mean? It do...
by gmalivuk
Fri Aug 11, 2017 7:20 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlearn
Replies: 669
Views: 149859

Re: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlea

Is COT the same as LOT? If so, has CAUGHT the same quality as LOT and only different length? Maybe in some dialects. In RP, no - the "lot" vowel is lower - /Q/ rather than /O/. Plus other things. ["caught" often has a genuinely rounded vowel, whereas "cot" more often has a sulcalised vowel, and iir...
by gmalivuk
Sat Aug 05, 2017 6:46 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlearn
Replies: 669
Views: 149859

Re: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlea

When they're reduced I don't finish the diphthong in "I'm" or "I'll", and both have pretty much the COT vowel.
by gmalivuk
Mon Jul 24, 2017 11:17 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlearn
Replies: 669
Views: 149859

Re: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlea

Turns out I was the only one who mentioned quesadillas. The rest of the discussion I was thinking of was about guillotines.

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by gmalivuk
Mon Jul 24, 2017 11:09 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlearn
Replies: 669
Views: 149859

Re: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlea

I'd never even heard of flan until the context of learning Spanish, so for me that's usually even more [a] than the vowel in "pasta", which comes out more like [ɑ].

(Was Salmoneus one of the people earlier in this thread who pronounces an /l/ in "quesadilla"?)
by gmalivuk
Mon Jul 24, 2017 10:36 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlearn
Replies: 669
Views: 149859

Re: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlea

I don't pronounce "flan" and "pasta" the way I do to be pretentious, I pronounce them that way because it actually somewhat approximates how they're pronounced in the original languages.
by gmalivuk
Mon Jun 12, 2017 7:27 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Innovative Usage Thread
Replies: 2452
Views: 413757

Re: The Innovative Usage Thread

linguoboy wrote: only recent made the crossover
Was that intentional?
by gmalivuk
Sat Jun 10, 2017 4:45 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Innovative Usage Thread
Replies: 2452
Views: 413757

Re: The Innovative Usage Thread

Bristel wrote:"I'm shook" = "I'm shaken emotionally".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Shook_Up
by gmalivuk
Tue May 30, 2017 11:47 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Endangered language...
Replies: 58
Views: 14090

Re: Endangered language...

xxx wrote:You should post in your mother tongue...
The only way to preserve minority languages is to use them in modern media... Instead of English...
Surely this straw man will convince people of your point of view.
by gmalivuk
Fri May 26, 2017 11:53 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Endangered language...
Replies: 58
Views: 14090

Re: Endangered language...

xxx wrote:Written language never cease to exist...
Many endangered languages aren't written.
by gmalivuk
Thu May 25, 2017 2:34 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Endangered language...
Replies: 58
Views: 14090

Re: Endangered language...

xxx: Have you actually read all the the posts in your thread? Language is not only a vector for culture. What I read is cultural loss principaly... In addition, works in a language are not only interesting for their base propositional content. Etymology and wordplay and poetic structure are also th...
by gmalivuk
Thu May 25, 2017 7:35 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Endangered language...
Replies: 58
Views: 14090

Re: Endangered language...

xxx: Have you actually read all the posts in your thread? Language is not only a vector for culture. In addition, works in a language are not only interesting for their base propositional content. Etymology and wordplay and poetic structure are also there, and would be lost in just about any transla...
by gmalivuk
Wed May 24, 2017 11:27 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Endangered language...
Replies: 58
Views: 14090

Re: Endangered language...

The languages that are dying today are in that state due to past actions.

Sure, the last speakers may die peaceful deaths surrounded by loved ones or whatever, but how do you think there came to be so few speakers in the first place?
by gmalivuk
Wed May 24, 2017 2:54 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Endangered language...
Replies: 58
Views: 14090

Re: Endangered language...

I don't know that I'd call converting to Christianity or being right next to England totally without force, either. It's not the more direct, "We'll beat you if you speak that language in school" cultural genocide approach, but it's not completely without coercion, either, given some of the common a...
by gmalivuk
Wed May 24, 2017 7:38 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Endangered language...
Replies: 58
Views: 14090

Re: Endangered language...

Um, do you have to be so dramatic? Once most people stopped being eternal land-bound peasants and started moving around, they tend to pick up languages/(dialects/accents) that are more "prestigious", either due to political dominance, employment opportunities, and/or economic rationales, or even th...
by gmalivuk
Mon May 22, 2017 10:44 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Endangered language...
Replies: 58
Views: 14090

Re: Endangered language...

People who speak those languages often want to preserve them, as do linguists.

What more reason is needed?
by gmalivuk
Mon May 15, 2017 7:36 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Innovative Usage Thread
Replies: 2452
Views: 413757

Re: The Innovative Usage Thread

What's "bikeshed"?
by gmalivuk
Wed May 10, 2017 7:37 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Words you've learned recently
Replies: 248
Views: 80165

Re: Words you've learned recently

I suppose it's plausible that masturbation *sometimes* had a ritual aspect, but it sounds like there's literally no evidence for that beyond the existence of the dildos themselves, and it is definitely *not* plausible that they never masturbated just to get off.
by gmalivuk
Wed May 10, 2017 7:18 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Loanwords with a more specific meaning
Replies: 63
Views: 14584

Re: Loanwords with a more specific meaning

I'd say mole got narrowed twice, once into Spanish where it means an indigenous style of sauce and again into English where it means the kind from Puebla.

(Meanwhile salsa got narrowed once so it just refers to the Mexican styles of sauce rather than all sauces.)
by gmalivuk
Mon May 08, 2017 2:41 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Words you've learned recently
Replies: 248
Views: 80165

Re: Words you've learned recently

Vijay wrote:I have an Ancient Greek comedy that my dad read where, from what I remember of what he said about it to me, all the women were genuinely concerned, if not downright upset or worse, about the prospect of losing their access to people selling sex toys.
Lysistrata, perhaps?
by gmalivuk
Sat May 06, 2017 7:57 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Words you've learned recently
Replies: 248
Views: 80165

Re: Words you've learned recently

Why is "in for a penny" one of your examples? It's just the truncated form of "in for a penny, in for a pound", whose meaning follows fairly straightforwardly from the words used. If you've ever heard the full expression, which I'll wager even many native speakers haven't. For instance, I grew up w...
by gmalivuk
Thu May 04, 2017 7:48 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Words you've learned recently
Replies: 248
Views: 80165

Re: Words you've learned recently

I know this is old, but the thread was revived and we're still on the same page. This isn't so much a word I've learnt, but a phrase in Welsh which I can't make head nor tail of... Man a man y mwnci... which apparently means "Might as well... / May as well...". But it seems to be saying something ab...
by gmalivuk
Thu Apr 27, 2017 7:48 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlearn
Replies: 669
Views: 149859

Re: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlea

One more, I guess ... haphazard (re)upholster Both with /f/. In both cases I was probably <10 years old. For the first one, I didnt know that "hap" was a word, so i parsed it as "half-hazard" and didnt really think twice about the spelling. For the second word, the whole word was unknown to me, so ...
by gmalivuk
Mon Apr 10, 2017 4:57 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: How to convince an ENG teacher that there aren't 6 Tenses
Replies: 48
Views: 11222

Re: How to convince an ENG teacher that there aren't 6 Tense

Register is another way the constructions vary, yes, but I strongly disagree with your implication that most of the difference in meaning comes from differences in register.

If nothing else, you'd need to explain how those register differences correspond to differences in fixity.
by gmalivuk
Mon Apr 10, 2017 8:49 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: How to convince an ENG teacher that there aren't 6 Tenses
Replies: 48
Views: 11222

Re: How to convince an ENG teacher that there aren't 6 Tense

Below is the typical sequence I use when presenting this in class. It is in order of planned-ness or fixity, and I usually tell students that "going to" can work for the situations below it, but that we tend to go with the shortest expression that gives the correct information. I also leave out that...