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Because I didn't want to create a whole new thread for this tiny question... Furthermore I thought that the topic might fit in here quite well as I could show some concrete examples of how numbers are used in my conlang... The thing is, I don't know how people would react if I flooded the forum with...

Hey people, I would like to use this thread to get a quick opinion on a strange phenomenon in Miwonša, which makes it difficult for me to describe the affected structures. It's about noun phrases with attributive adjectives and also numbers ... Please take a look at the following data and try to exp...

Good point. OK, then let's change our criterion... Instead of trying to measure how much text we need to obtain "exactly the same information" we could try to determine how much text we need to express least the same of what we can find in the English translation. I hope the difference is clear. Let...

Hey people, I'm addressing a question to you which has been bothering me for a long time. Whenever I notice that translations in different languages differ in length, I wonder whether some languages are better in conveying information than others, or in other words, whether some languages need signi...

In my opinion prefixes is the solution... OK, let's say you have a CVCVC structure and 20 consonant phonemes... It's pretty obvious that you won't get thousands of different verbs with such a few amount of available sounds. What you could do instead is to create a set of 20-30 verbs with very basic ...

One example how we could use WALS:

http://wals.info/feature/28A?tg_format= ... 00&v4=c00d

Item: Case syncretism

Core + Non-Core: Spanish, Greek, French, German, Irish, Latvian, Russian, Armenian (7) = 0.89
Something Else: English (1) = 0.11

Has anyone ever made a thread or test for how much the grammar of your conlang follows European models along the lines of this thread? That's a brilliant idea and I think we should start to work out adequate items for a new test. However, in my opinion the weak spot of the phonology test is that we...

Well, it is really not my Intention at all to seem arrogant and you're right that being a native speaker does not automatically mean that you're an expert on the language, but: As I am an active member of this forum, it's obviously quite likely that I tend to know more about language than average na...

It is debatable whether German has affricates. Excuse me for interfering in your discussion, but as I am a native speaker of German with pretty good skills in Polish, I can assure you that "ts", "tsch", "dsch" and "pf" are affricates and no consonant clusters. The reason is that in Polish there is ...

I like nasal vowels: Vm and VN => V~, if m/n are in the coda position berdʒitu:d > bɛrʒitu:d boʃa bubhawvʃawt dudsa:q dʒaimbaʃ > dʒãj̃baʃ dʒi habejtʃawʃ > habeʃawʃ hej > he hevu: hu: jajtta:k kaj kavi kitru:g kunugvo las li:mun > li:mũ lun > lũ majgʃu mevxe > mɛvxe mokvoʃa:lo > mɔkvoʃa:lo nahilmor >...

I can pronounce [kq]

Thank you Morrigan, let's find out the significance level as well KOR = r = 0.7129 n = 21 dof = 19 Test size: ts = r*√(n-2) / √(1-r²) = a/b a = 0.7129*√19 a = 0.7129*4.3589 a = 3.1075 b = √(1-0.7129²) b = √(1-0.5082) b = √(0.4918) b = 0.7013 ts = a/b = 3.1075/0.7013 = 4.4311 Excel: (I'm a cheater 8)...

Hey people, I tried to calculate whether there is a Pearson correlation, so that we know for sure if non-Indoeuropean languages have significantly lower results than Indoeuropean languages. I have to admit that in order to apply the test, you usually need two metric scales (and in this case I try to...

I have an idea how we could improve the test, but it would be much more work to create the test and to evaluate it.... Let's say our test consists of 100 items. One example item could be the presence of voiceless post-alveolar or retroflex fricative /ʃ/ or /ʂ/. Now let's take a look at a small set o...

German ✔ 1. Absence of any phonemic POA for stops further back than velar (most phoneticians don't consider the glottal stop a phoneme) ✔ 2. Phonemic voicing ✔ 3. Phonemic voicing only on stops and fricatives ✔ 4. Voicing distinction on fricatives but only labial and/or coronal fricatives (f-v, s-z,...

1. Absence of any phonemic POA for stops further back than velar 2. Phonemic voicing 3. Phonemic voicing only on stops and fricatives (w-ʍ) 4. Voicing distinction on fricatives but only labial and/or coronal fricatives (s-z, š-ž) 5. At least two MOAs with identical POA arrays 6. One fewer phonemic ...

I have a question: I tried to fill out the questionnaire, but my conlangs use to have a lot of affricates and ejectives. Do they count as stops or not?

Hathe chaha'unukuchukuhukuchane [tʃa̤ːʔɨnɨgɨʒɨgɨ̤ːgɨʒanə][/quote] > Miwonša ča inikižikikižan [tʃa: iɲik^ʲiʒi'k^ʲi:k^ʲiʒã:]

Hey people,

just a quick question: How can I tell if I have palatalised/labialized stops in a conlang or only consonant clusters consisting of a plosive and /j/ or /w/? For example, how can I judge whether my own pronunciation is [kw] or [kʷ]?

Miwonša has a very phonemic orthography:

http://conlang.wikia.com/wiki/Miwonsa#ORTHOGRAPHY

Just for you, Janko: :-D Miwonša All numbers have adverbial and adjectival forms. If they refer to certain nouns, they take different endigns according to the case and the noun class the noun belongs to. 1: ano 2: pjara 3: kiši 4: šela 5: mjaško 6: šepi 7: honša 8: tupi 9: khona 10: anjura (Pronunci...

Dear people, as most passionate conlangers may have noticed, there is a huge discrepancy between our ideals of language contruction and the actual situation of today's conlangs. On the one hand, there is an incredible abundance of conlang projects in our world, but on the other hand there are only v...

Lamaunan Putšgala radanččaū [ɹadanʁ:au:] > Miwonša ratanha [ra'tãɦa:]

Did you not give us example of morphemes with two different values, primarily those of the second and third slot? Fusionality isn't that correlated to segmentability: Icelandic* has words such as "hestarnir" (the horses), which is segmentable but still highly synthetic. *Edit: two different languag...

Fusional? Hmm, that's a surprise... I thought fusional languages languages are languages in which one morpheme indicates multiple grammatical values or in which you cannot segment words into morphemes as the boarders are not visible. But in Miwonša the segmentation is no problem at all: Example mazi...