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by sangi39
Wed Jul 22, 2015 11:40 am
Forum: None of the above
Topic: The dream thread
Replies: 1807
Views: 366050

Re: The dream thread

A few nights ago, I dreamt about the finding of an ivory statuette with an Old Albic inscription near my birthplace (which is in Germany), with controversies about whether it was genuine or not. Only after waking up , I noticed that it would have been found in a place where Old Albic never was spok...
by sangi39
Tue Jun 16, 2015 7:54 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Languages with Nouns/Adjectives/Verbs of ONLY Two+ Syllables
Replies: 11
Views: 3392

Re: Languages with Nouns/Adjectives/Verbs of ONLY Two+ Sylla

Aren't most reconstructed stems for Proto-Uralic bisyllabic. I can only remember a couple of monosyllabic roots, but most of the ones I've seen are two syllables long. Granted, though, Proto-Uralic reconstructions have a fairly limited lexicon, so that the best example ever.
by sangi39
Tue Jun 16, 2015 7:21 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
Replies: 2225
Views: 529644

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread

You can also break up text so that you don't have to reply to each point in one block of text at the end. Let's say that Jal's reply comes in 5 parts. You can then do the following: [quote="Jal"] Part 1 of Jal's response [/quote] Jouna's reply to part one [quote="Jal"] Part 2 of Jal's response [/quo...
by sangi39
Tue Jun 16, 2015 7:13 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
Replies: 2225
Views: 529644

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread

And let's have a practical example for a quick demonstration of what happens. This: [quote="Jal"] [quote="Jouna"] Something Jouna has written [/quote] Jal's response to the thing Jouna has written [/quote] Jouna's reply to Jal's reply Would become this: Something Jouna has written Jal's response to ...
by sangi39
Thu Jun 11, 2015 10:32 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 2827
Views: 704652

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

It's common for them to change (I would think) but what are some things I can do with /θ/ and /ð/? Affricates. I came up with the idea of shifting them to /ts/ and /dz/, respectively, in a future English. That's definitely one of the cooler ideas I've seen. Did you first shift them to dental plosiv...
by sangi39
Thu Jun 11, 2015 9:44 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 2827
Views: 704652

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

What are way to develop /m̥ n̥ ɹ̥ l̥/ that doesn't involve a complex intervocalic chain shift of /m: n: ɹ: l:/ > /m n ɹ l/ > /m̥ n̥ ɹ̥ l̥/? Simplication of Rh and hR clusters (as I recently mentioned over on the CBB). You could probably also get them from RP clusters where P is a voiceless plosives...
by sangi39
Thu Jun 04, 2015 3:26 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
Replies: 2225
Views: 529644

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread

Now, you haven't done any of this yet, but I've seen many threads that started off sane that quickly descended into madness (Octavanio and AshMoonFruit come to mind), so I'm just anticipating what I hope doesn't happen again. Oh god, Octaviano was awful (as was Tienzen Gong if he appeared here as w...
by sangi39
Sat May 23, 2015 1:04 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Romanization challenge thread
Replies: 3842
Views: 976218

Re: Romanization challenge thread

Amele /b t d k ɡ ɡ͡b ʔ/ < b t d k g gb q > /m n/ < m n > /f s h/ < f s h > /l j w/ < l y w > /i ɛ æ ɔ u/ < i e a o u > Iya yeh saɡboqnu, bal saiɡen. Dana aɡe wele, haiden saenna odi odoin. Maha hewimeiɡ, qabioɡbaɡannu ɡadaq mihedumeiɡ, qaya siɡin unani adoloiɡ. Qaya siɡin qunuɡ ɡabandoqobil, dana m...
by sangi39
Thu May 21, 2015 5:08 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Peculiar grammatical features in communication
Replies: 13
Views: 4307

Re: Peculiar grammatical features in communication

Mithun (1999). "Special Language. p. 275 of Mithun, Marianne (1999). The Languages of Native North America. Cambridge University Press. The same source then goes on to describe changes in "voice qualities" when quoting legendary characters in stories, such as Deer replacing all sibilants with later...
by sangi39
Wed May 20, 2015 9:47 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Peculiar grammatical features in communication
Replies: 13
Views: 4307

Re: Peculiar grammatical features in communication

This is very much an instance of [citation needed] Mithun (1999). "Special Language. p. 275 of Mithun, Marianne (1999). The Languages of Native North America. Cambridge University Press. The same source then goes on to describe changes in "voice qualities" when quoting legendary characters in stori...
by sangi39
Sat May 16, 2015 11:53 am
Forum: None of the above
Topic: ZBB member photos, part 5. (Something for the weekend, sir?)
Replies: 5496
Views: 906370

Re: ZBB member photos, part 5. (Something for the weekend, s

This is the most recent photo of myself (...) I've not had a haircut in 2 years and I've done nothing but trim my facial hair in 18 months, i.e. I do not shave. Wow, dude, nice hair! You look like that dude in that hair commercial :). If only. I've still got another year or two until I reach that l...
by sangi39
Sat May 09, 2015 7:10 pm
Forum: None of the above
Topic: ZBB member photos, part 5. (Something for the weekend, sir?)
Replies: 5496
Views: 906370

Re: ZBB member photos, part 5. (Something for the weekend, s

This is the most recent photo of myself:

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I've not had a haircut in 2 years and I've done nothing but trim my facial hair in 18 months, i.e. I do not shave.
by sangi39
Sat May 02, 2015 7:13 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 2827
Views: 704652

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

I can't entirely remember if I've asked this before, and it doesn't turn up in search results, but would the following sound changes be plausible: DVN (where D is a voiced plosive N is a nasal coda and V is a vowel) > DV~D > DV~D > NV~D > NVD ...? I'd assume that if this is plausible, then N>D betwe...
by sangi39
Mon Apr 27, 2015 4:42 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Romanization challenge thread
Replies: 3842
Views: 976218

Re: Romanization challenge thread

Hixkaryana

/m n ɲ/ <m n ñ>
/p b t d tʃ ɟ k/ <p b t d c j k>
/ɸ s ʃ h/ <f s x h>
/ɾ ɽˡ/ <r l>
/j w/ <y w>

/e ɯ u ɔ æ/ <e i u o a>

/bɯɽˡekɔmɔ jɔtæhæhɔnɔ wɔsɯ tɯɲɔ wjæ/
<Bilekomo yotahahono wosi tiño wya>
by sangi39
Wed Apr 08, 2015 6:43 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 2827
Views: 704652

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

אקֿמך ארש-הגִנו wrote:Looking for other ideas and ideas regarding the uvular voiced fricative (which is not to be derived from the uvular trill)
Voicing and frication of /q/, voicing of the voiceless uvular fricative or backing of the voiced velar fricative?
by sangi39
Tue Apr 07, 2015 7:36 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 2827
Views: 704652

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

The phonemes won't merge, but these voiceless alveolar plosive will become voiced. tuzhal :> duzhal "to divide into six" duzhal "to fear" They are homonyms now. So not within the same language, but across related languages/dialects (as we presented)? Is that within the definition of homophony? Homo...
by sangi39
Tue Apr 07, 2015 6:24 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 2827
Views: 704652

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

[ Fair enough, but I don't think that changes what I said here , albeit replacing uvularised > voiceless to uvularised > voiced. The chain shift was only proposed as a way of derived pre-nasalised plosives. Of course, just that there will be a merge of the d-zh family with the now voiced t-zh famil...
by sangi39
Tue Apr 07, 2015 5:40 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 2827
Views: 704652

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

I mentioned this over on the CBB, the chain shift might end with pre-nasalised stops, but only Vrkazhian voiced stops resulted in Mukhebic pre-nasalised voiced stops. Mukhebic voiced stops would come from Vrkhazhian voiceless stops (and possibly Vrkhazhian uvularised stops depending on whether you ...
by sangi39
Tue Apr 07, 2015 5:32 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 2827
Views: 704652

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

I mentioned this over on the CBB, the chain shift might end with pre-nasalised stops, but only Vrkazhian voiced stops resulted in Mukhebic pre-nasalised voiced stops. Mukhebic voiced stops would come from Vrkhazhian voiceless stops (and possibly Vrkhazhian uvularised stops depending on whether you ...
by sangi39
Tue Apr 07, 2015 5:25 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 2827
Views: 704652

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

Well, I expect unintelligiblility. I imagined that the intelligibility between the two dialects would be like Spanish and Portuguese? Similar enough, that with a bit of learning, to be easy to understand, but different enough that the two dialects aren't like British and American. Something like so...
by sangi39
Tue Apr 07, 2015 4:09 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 2827
Views: 704652

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

I don't think it's going to affect your triconsonantal system too much (just look at palatalisation in the Semitic languages of Ethiopia or the loss of /n/ in certain verb forms in Hebrew. It causes a change in some parts of the system, but it works more or less the same way it did before. A chain ...
by sangi39
Tue Apr 07, 2015 3:27 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 2827
Views: 704652

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

I don't think it's going to affect your triconsonantal system too much (just look at palatalisation in the Semitic languages of Ethiopia or the loss of /n/ in certain verb forms in Hebrew. It causes a change in some parts of the system, but it works more or less the same way it did before. A chain ...
by sangi39
Tue Apr 07, 2015 3:25 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 2827
Views: 704652

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

How plausible is an unconditional shift of [h] to [ʔ]? I think Nort has said that this might not be entirely plausible (I seem to remember asking about lenition once, and this may have been his response). Honestly, myself, I don't know, but I thought I'd point out a possible source of information :)
by sangi39
Tue Apr 07, 2015 3:17 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 2827
Views: 704652

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

I don't think it's going to affect your triconsonantal system too much (just look at palatalisation in the Semitic languages of Ethiopia or the loss of /n/ in certain verb forms in Hebrew. It causes a change in some parts of the system, but it works more or less the same way it did before. A chain s...
by sangi39
Fri Apr 03, 2015 3:27 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Where does /tɬ/ in Icelandic come from?
Replies: 66
Views: 14437

Re: Where does /tɬ/ in Icelandic come from?

Just to bring this slightly back on topic, is there a phonetic difference between <tl> in, say, "útland" (foreign country) and <ll> in, say, "bolli" (cup)?