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- Thu Aug 20, 2015 1:55 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: ჱ Georgian წ
- Replies: 5
- Views: 2414
Re: ჱ Georgian წ
Rad that you just were in Georgia! I'm actually going to Tbilisi in a few weeks myself. Do you speak the language? • ვ /v/ is a tricky one, both phonetically and phonologically. I think you do occasionally come across [v], especially word-initially before a vowel or voiced consonant. [f] is another ...
- Wed Nov 06, 2013 6:44 pm
- Forum: None of the above
- Topic: Confusing headlines and other trips down the garden path
- Replies: 1058
- Views: 228778
Re: Cheese that smells
As KathAveara pointed out, when the head noun functions as the subject of the relative, it is not possible to drop that.
- Sun Nov 03, 2013 10:19 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: "Imagination" Etymology in Different Languages
- Replies: 20
- Views: 5894
Re: "Imagination" Etymology in Different Languages
Georgian has წარმოსახვა c̣armosaxva , which is also a verbal noun that means "depicting, depiction". The morpheme break down: წარ- c̣ar- — the archaic version of the preverb წა c̣a , which in directional contexts means 'setting off' მო- mo- — another preverb; indicates direction towards the speaker ...
- Thu Oct 31, 2013 12:37 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Post your conlang's phonology
- Replies: 2278
- Views: 512341
Re: Post your conlang's phonology
Also Georgian's non-ejective stops are aspirated and /h/ only appears in a few native words (not counting where it appears in the 2S.SUBJ affix sometimes). Correction: there are no native Georgian words with /h/ except where it occurs as one of the allomorphs of the third person indirect object mar...
- Wed Oct 23, 2013 12:15 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Help your conlang fluency (2)
- Replies: 6633
- Views: 765401
Re: Help your conlang fluency
Otxtzachie etxaigne on mechoaigeg.
[əddʒɐˈʔiː ʔɛˈtʃɛn ˈʔɐ̃ʊ̯ mɛˈʔʊɔ̯dzɨ]
Strange orthographies are best
[əddʒɐˈʔiː ʔɛˈtʃɛn ˈʔɐ̃ʊ̯ mɛˈʔʊɔ̯dzɨ]
Strange orthographies are best
- Mon Oct 21, 2013 3:25 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Help your conlang fluency (2)
- Replies: 6633
- Views: 765401
Re: Help your conlang fluency
Sótx poig teunx no sautant txauch po, ma xo no senn muz ecóras txep. Peig soriedou on scaigeg :c [ˈsoʃpədz ˈtɵ̃ʃnə sɔˈtɐ̃ʊ̃ ˈtʃɔppə | ˈmaː ʃənɔˈsɛn ˈmʊts ɛˈkuːrəstʃɨp ‖ ˈpɛdz sərɪˈduː ˈɐ̃ʊ̃ ˈskaːdzɨ] Luckily I don't have a lot of work to do for them, and I'm not applying to very many schools. But t...
- Mon Oct 21, 2013 3:03 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Txeumé
- Replies: 25
- Views: 10516
Re: Txeumé
Yes, this would only work if you'd be able to slot everything else before the verb into one giant NP (or whatever it's called in your framework). So one solution would be to have Txeumé be only partially head-final. Well the standard analysis for German is that in unembedded clauses the verb underg...
- Sun Oct 20, 2013 11:41 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Help your conlang fluency (2)
- Replies: 6633
- Views: 765401
Re: Help your conlang fluency
Mis xteun poigtzauipg setxentaigcq
[ˈmɪs ˈʃtɛ̃ʊ̃ pɔzˈdʒɔps sɨtʃɛ̃ˈtɐsk]
/mi=s ʃ=ˈtɵ̃ podzˈdʒɒ=ps se=tʃ=ɛ̃ˈta-dz=k/
1SG=FOC 1SG=have:1SG.PRES graduate.school=for INTR=PFX=apply-INF=P
And me, I'm applying to grad school
[ˈmɪs ˈʃtɛ̃ʊ̃ pɔzˈdʒɔps sɨtʃɛ̃ˈtɐsk]
/mi=s ʃ=ˈtɵ̃ podzˈdʒɒ=ps se=tʃ=ɛ̃ˈta-dz=k/
1SG=FOC 1SG=have:1SG.PRES graduate.school=for INTR=PFX=apply-INF=P
And me, I'm applying to grad school
- Thu Oct 10, 2013 10:02 am
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Txeumé
- Replies: 25
- Views: 10516
Re: Txeumé
I reeeally like it, it's pretty. Thank you! Hopefully I'll get up some more posts soon. This is meant as a genuine question, not as criticism - are you sure about the order in all cases? The head-final languages I know (all Turkic) all are determiner-noun, and originally don't have complementizers,...
- Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:09 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Txeumé
- Replies: 25
- Views: 10516
Re: Txeumé
Syntax Though it's a Spanish descendant, Txeumé has very little in common syntactically with Romance languages. It's overwhelmingly head-final, with the added quirk that verbs appear in the second position of non-embedded clauses (this, of course, is the V2 phenomenon familiar from Germanic languag...
- Fri Jul 19, 2013 5:00 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Help your conlang fluency (2)
- Replies: 6633
- Views: 765401
Re: Help your conlang fluency
Hééte iŋwe iʔaathé ŋánuu? What's the purpose of them doing that? Eutzdg meómént poig. Jgaig seutzézg sepoigancq txechichég aremant poig con [ˈœʒd mœˈmempədz || ˈdzɐdz ˈsɪ̯ɛʊ̯dʒɨts sɛˈpaʊ̯dzək tʃɛˈʔiːʔɨ ərɛˈmɐmpəskə] /ˈœdʒ=d mœˈmɪn=podz || ˈdzadz s=ˈœdʒ=ɪ=ts se=podz=ˈdz-ɐ̃=k tʃeˈʔɪʔ=ɪ areˈman=podz=k...
- Thu Jul 18, 2013 12:36 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Help your conlang fluency (2)
- Replies: 6633
- Views: 765401
Re: Help your conlang fluency
Txeumé poig eutzég tin dontxg jges.
[ˈtʃɛʊ̯mɨpədz ˈjɛʊ̯dʒɨ ˈtɪ̃n ˈdɔndʒːɨs]
/ˈtʃømɪ=podz ˈœdʒ=ɪ ˈt-ɪ̃ dɔ=n=tʃ=dze=s/
Txeumé=by verb.PL=DEF split-PRES.3PL two=in=PV=PV=PV
Verbs in Txeumé split in two
[ˈtʃɛʊ̯mɨpədz ˈjɛʊ̯dʒɨ ˈtɪ̃n ˈdɔndʒːɨs]
/ˈtʃømɪ=podz ˈœdʒ=ɪ ˈt-ɪ̃ dɔ=n=tʃ=dze=s/
Txeumé=by verb.PL=DEF split-PRES.3PL two=in=PV=PV=PV
Verbs in Txeumé split in two
- Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:36 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Txeumé
- Replies: 25
- Views: 10516
Re: Txeumé
Sound Changes I've never actually written down the sound changes that give turn Spanish into Txeumé, and doing it now is harder than I would have expected. So the derivation that follows may not be perfectly accurate, but it gives a pretty good description. Stage I V{s,T}{T,F,σ} → V +lax Ø{T,F,σ} (...
- Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:43 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Kna:w language thread
- Replies: 27
- Views: 10077
Re: Kna:w language thread
This is a super rad language. Not at all conlangy. When stative verbs in are in the non-completive aspect, the verb denotes a change of state. I'm confused — does adding the noncompletive aspect marker to a stative verb give a noncompletive change-of-state verb? That is, does kohwokdɤ mean 'is becom...
- Mon Jun 03, 2013 5:56 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Help your conlang fluency (2)
- Replies: 6633
- Views: 765401
Re: Help your conlang fluency
Xay teata jgechéig cqés. Im eat eg epainórde desendént — xó camb choneydigq abigqaig mi causén poig, peig etxiules eg ma dichis. [ˈʃɛæ̯ ˈtɪɛ̯tə zɛˈʔɛz ˈkɛs || ˈɵ̃ ˈɛt ˈɪɛ̯ ɨpɐˈnɔrdɨ dɨsɛ̃ˈdɪ̃ŋ | ˈʃuː ˈkɐ̃b ʔɔˈneɪ̯dɨg əbɪgˈaz mɪˈkɔɒ̯səpəz | ˈpɛz ɛˈtʃaɪ̯lɨs ˈɪɛ̯ ˈma: dɪˈʔis] 1SG=know:PRES.1SG 2SG=3SG...
- Fri May 31, 2013 10:48 am
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Txeumé
- Replies: 25
- Views: 10516
Re: Txeumé
Thanks! The orthography's been inspired by a bunch of different things — Catalan and Greek, most notably. It retains a good amount of etymology, so it's not entirely regular. Not impossible to read, though, I think. It deserves a nice detailed post on its own. Yes, similar to Russian. So given a wor...
- Fri May 31, 2013 12:09 am
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Txeumé
- Replies: 25
- Views: 10516
Txeumé
Introduction I've been fooling around with an Spanish cypher for years now that has been getting more and more opaque. It's gotten to the point now that the phonological and syntactic rules used obscure the source so much that the end result is unrecognizably Indo-European, much less Spanish. So I ...
- Sun Oct 21, 2012 11:24 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: How do languages deal with distinctions like watch/see?
- Replies: 41
- Views: 8936
Re: How do languages deal with distinctions like watch/see?
In Georgian, the difference is mainly that watch and listen take indirect objects, while see takes a direct object. Hear takes an experiencer (dative-marked) subject. ყურება watching, looking at ლებანი ფრანგულ ფილმს უყურებს Levan-i prangul-Ø pilm-s u-qur-eb-s Levan- NOM French- DAT film- DAT 3.IO -w...
- Sun Sep 16, 2012 4:15 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Polysemy in function/non-lexical words.
- Replies: 37
- Views: 7228
Re: Polysemy in function/non-lexical words.
(but note that resumptive pronouns are very common in colloquial spoken English, eg I ate the dog that it bit you ). I have never, ever , heard this, and i would assume that anyone who said it was non-native. I suspect English may colloquially use resumptive pronouns now and then in very complicate...
- Sun Sep 16, 2012 8:23 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Polysemy in function/non-lexical words.
- Replies: 37
- Views: 7228
Re: Polysemy in function/non-lexical words.
I suppose it depends on your definition of subordination, Sal. Usually it just means embedding of a clause. In this sense, both [ John said [ that he saw Mary ] ] and [ I ate the dog [ that bit you ] ] are instances of subordination, even if in the latter the subclause is 'incomplete' (but note that...
- Sat Sep 01, 2012 2:05 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Post your conlang's phonology
- Replies: 2278
- Views: 512341
Re: Post your conlang's phonology
That is such a cool phonology. Where did you get the idea of all the bidentals? I love the phonetic ranges on some of those phonemes. Are they in free variation, or environmentally conditioned? What do the colors mean? When you say breathy vowels aren't contrastive after breathy Cs, what do you mean...
- Fri Aug 31, 2012 7:23 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Sentential Objects and Ergativity
- Replies: 9
- Views: 2695
Re: Sentential Objects and Ergativity
It's not that complement clauses are interpreted as being the objects of verbs, that's what they are . You can have sentential subjects too. Can you? You can have that-clauses as either subjects or objects, but is that the same as having an independent clause as subject or object? That-clauses are ...
- Fri Aug 31, 2012 11:58 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Sentential Objects and Ergativity
- Replies: 9
- Views: 2695
Re: Sentential Objects and Ergativity
Georgian, despite having a pretty exotic MSA, doesn't really do anything exotic in regards to complement clauses; they're just treated like direct objects. ივანემ იცის, რომ მოხვალ, და ქეთევანმაც ის იცის. ivane-m icis, rom moxval, da ketevan-ma=c is icis Ivane-ERG knows, that you.will.come, and Ketev...
- Thu Aug 30, 2012 1:09 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: LCK Two
- Replies: 121
- Views: 23438
Re: LCK Two
Mine just arrived raddd~
- Tue Aug 28, 2012 9:34 pm
- Forum: None of the above
- Topic: What are you reading, watching and listening to?
- Replies: 469
- Views: 139892
Re: What are you reading, watching and listening to?
I'm about to finish Jeffrey Eugenides's Middlesex . I've found the second half to be much more enjoyable than the first. I've just started Haruki Murakami's 1Q84 . It's really fun, but the more novels of his I read the more I realize he writes the same book over and over again. Slowly trudging throu...