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- Sat Oct 04, 2014 2:18 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Sound Change Game
- Replies: 2673
- Views: 501767
Re: Sound Change Game
Bol Ou tasiiwági [ta.ziːˈwa.gi] :> Hellenic-esque τασιυακι [ta.si.wa.ki] Bol Ou káiji [ˈka.i.dʒi] :> Hellenic-esque καιζι [kaɪ.tsi] Bol Ou kóuli [ˈko.u.li] :> Hellenic-esque κουλι [ko.u.li] Bol Ou tóusiŋi [ˈto.u.zi.ŋi] :> Hellenic-esque τουσινκι [to.u.siŋ.ki] Those might be seen as locatives with no...
- Wed Oct 01, 2014 7:27 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Lexicography - considerations?
- Replies: 2
- Views: 1065
Re: Lexicography - considerations?
What is your goal?
- Mon Sep 29, 2014 12:20 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Pauses with or instead of Long Vowels
- Replies: 12
- Views: 2840
Re: Pauses with or instead of Long Vowels
I was thinking about the concept of a musical rest and how musicians are encouraged to "play" it. I wondered whether that could be applied to language. Is there any precedent of a pause in a word with a similar beat to a long vowel? And I don't mean with gemination or glottal closure--simply just a...
- Sat Sep 27, 2014 2:46 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: How to begin an a priori conlang
- Replies: 12
- Views: 5159
Re: How to begin an a priori conlang
Turtles all the way down. Realistically though look at it like PIE. We know that's not the earliest form, but we can't realistically recreate anything much earlier, so at some point you just have to say, I'm going to make this stuff up for this ancestor language and then use the rules of derivation ...
- Thu Sep 25, 2014 1:12 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: ASCA v0.1.6 - NEW
- Replies: 125
- Views: 31993
Re: ASCA v0.1.6 - NEW
Morrigan left the ZBB a while back. I don't know anything about her site.Qwynegold wrote:Is this still alive? Is the program stabile? The ASCA website is down.
- Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:19 am
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Grammaticalization Quickie Thread
- Replies: 94
- Views: 39382
Re: Grammaticalization Quickie Thread
On a similar note, is there any semantic realm that English typically has to talk about paraphrastically, but cross-linguistically, it is common to make lexical distinctions? (I don't know if that's quite the right terminology) How about direction of movement? English has a bunch of handy words for...
- Mon Sep 22, 2014 11:43 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Jel language grammatical sketch
- Replies: 4
- Views: 2875
Re: Jel language grammatical sketch
Much better. For the phonemic inventory (alphabet, whatever), I suggest if not a table, at least put the vowels in one section and consonants in a second, for extra points, arrange them roughly by type (so stops, fricatives, etc.). So for example: Vowels /a e~ɛ i~ɪ ɤ ɯ/ <a e i o u> Consonants Stops ...
- Fri Sep 19, 2014 3:48 am
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Jel language grammatical sketch
- Replies: 4
- Views: 2875
Re: Jel language grammatical sketch
Yes, please set up the phoneme inventory in a chart a la an IPA chart. The case marking might be a little clearer in a table also. And I prefer glosses and translations not to be spaced out from the original (it's much easier to see what goes with what if a line break separates examples rather than ...
- Thu Sep 18, 2014 3:35 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Modal Questions in English
- Replies: 4
- Views: 1675
Re: Modal Questions in English
As I am aware, to ask a question with a modal verb (or main verb, in the cases of 'be' and traditionally 'have') in English, it moves to the start with its subject in front of it and the modified verb after: 'Can you swim?' 'Must I go?' But what of negative questions? With pronouns, the pronoun is ...
- Tue Sep 16, 2014 5:05 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Sound Change Game
- Replies: 2673
- Views: 501767
Re: Sound Change Game
Wendoth ṭosofeṭow [ʈöʂöfəˈʈow] Hellenic-esque τοσοπατο [tosopaˈto]
Wendoth xohov [χöˈʁov] Hellenic-esque κορο [koˈro]
Wendoth ngaweved [ŋgawəˈvəd̪] Hellenic-esque καυπαδα [kauˈpada]
Wendoth ṭocani [ʈöçaˈni̤] Hellenic-esque τοζανι [totsaˈni]
Wendoth xohov [χöˈʁov] Hellenic-esque κορο [koˈro]
Wendoth ngaweved [ŋgawəˈvəd̪] Hellenic-esque καυπαδα [kauˈpada]
Wendoth ṭocani [ʈöçaˈni̤] Hellenic-esque τοζανι [totsaˈni]
- Sun Sep 14, 2014 12:21 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Sound Change Game
- Replies: 2673
- Views: 501767
Re: Sound Change Game
@Ryan of Tinellb, I think this occurs most when people run the changes through their language derivations, and forget to tack on new syllables as might be appropriate to their language. Monosyllables have only so much variation. So some new words: Orthographic > Hrindarat /,or.sog.'ra.p j ek/ Astrol...
- Mon Sep 08, 2014 4:28 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Grammaticalization Quickie Thread
- Replies: 94
- Views: 39382
Re: Grammaticalization Quickie Thread
Sure you can use the term "case" for grammatical roles and it can do a fair job at it especially in describing core roles in languages that lack morphological case. My preference is just to reserve the term for the language specific morphological categories especially since very often single morpho...
- Mon Sep 08, 2014 9:11 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Idiolectal pronunciations
- Replies: 50
- Views: 9850
Re: Idiolectal pronunciations
I have the pen-pin merger and engma tensing so I have something like /streɪŋθ/ and /leɪŋθ/
- Mon Sep 08, 2014 1:06 am
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: giant swamps
- Replies: 13
- Views: 3895
Re: giant swamps
A hard soil could help. Much of Alaska consists of swamps because permafrost stays frozen and the rain that falls in summer can't penetrate through the frozen soil the way it would in a warmer climate. Much of the year, of course, the water is frozen so while it is still considered a swamp it would...
- Sun Sep 07, 2014 11:05 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: giant swamps
- Replies: 13
- Views: 3895
Re: giant swamps
A hard soil could help. Much of Alaska consists of swamps because permafrost stays frozen and the rain that falls in summer can't penetrate through the frozen soil the way it would in a warmer climate. Much of the year, of course, the water is frozen so while it is still considered a swamp it would...
- Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:25 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: giant swamps
- Replies: 13
- Views: 3895
Re: giant swamps
It's your world and it seems plausible enough to me, so go for it.
- Thu Sep 04, 2014 10:56 am
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: The Ultimate Proto-Language
- Replies: 39
- Views: 11074
Re: The Ultimate Proto-Language
I interst that letters (sound) /ʘ ǀ ! ǁ/ /ᵑʘ ᵑǀ (ᵑ!) (ᵑǁ)/ <nʘ nǀ n! nǁ> /ʘʰ ǀʰ !ʰ ǁʰ/ <ʘh ǀh !h ǁh> similar as Khoisan languages of the South African republics? Yes, those represent various types of clicks. The first row is plain, the second nasal(ized), the third aspirated. They are in order: bil...
- Tue Sep 02, 2014 10:48 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Is This Grammatical To You?
- Replies: 52
- Views: 10453
Re: Is This Grammatical To You?
A sign on a building near me reads "EXCITING NEW RETAIL ANNOUNCED SOON". Does this work for any of you? IMD, you can't just drop to be from a construction like that, not even in "headline style". Without the to be I have difficulty reconciling the semantic future of "soon" and the grammatical not-f...
- Mon Sep 01, 2014 2:14 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Borrowings
- Replies: 13
- Views: 3390
Re: Borrowings
Assuming you mean words, new technologies are high on the list. Even the Hittites and Akkadians borrowed their word for clay tablets from the Sumerians. Although it seems like some languages prefer calques or might calque along with a borrowing, with or without an official language body deciding on ...
- Sun Aug 31, 2014 3:48 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Is This Grammatical To You?
- Replies: 52
- Views: 10453
Re: Is This Grammatical To You?
Hey guys, what do you think of these sentences? How else could these be said? a. The flavor of cantaloupes is beautiful. b. The flavor is beautiful of cantaloupes. (Sounds good to me, but a little funky to my dad.) a. Of what is the flavor beautiful? (Sounds archaic, I've never heard such a constru...
- Wed Aug 27, 2014 8:33 am
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Dealing with homophone mergers
- Replies: 6
- Views: 2090
Re: Dealing with homophone mergers
There was study one of my professors mentioned that found that homophones occur at a rate above chance in the languages examined (I think it was Austronesian or Polynesian languages). I believe the rate of homophones varies by language, but for some languages can be fairly high. There may be a psych...
- Tue Aug 19, 2014 10:41 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Is This Grammatical To You?
- Replies: 52
- Views: 10453
Re: Is This Grammatical To You?
How about this: Can you tell me what’s the difference between…and…? To me, what's wrong with it is that the verb should come after 'difference', not after 'what', or else there should be a colon after 'me'. But since it's hard to judge the placing of colons in fluent speech... I'm with Sal in that ...
- Mon Aug 18, 2014 9:55 am
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Need PIE conjugation and declension tables for conlang.
- Replies: 16
- Views: 7753
Re: Need PIE conjugation and declension tables for conlang.
Hopefully Sihler's book should be available at some libraries (university libraries if you have access), but yeah, it costs monies.
Also, Kath's link contains a pdf of Sihler's book, so nice!
Also, Kath's link contains a pdf of Sihler's book, so nice!
- Sun Aug 17, 2014 11:28 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Need PIE conjugation and declension tables for conlang.
- Replies: 16
- Views: 7753
Re: Need PIE conjugation and declension tables for conlang.
Andrew Sihler's New Comparative Grammar of Greek and Latin has paradigms of declensions and conjugations, though despite mentioning many roots he does not include a root list. He is of course mainly focused on the results in Greek and Latin.
- Sat Aug 16, 2014 1:55 pm
- Forum: None of the above
- Topic: Linguistic Quackery Thread, take 2
- Replies: 812
- Views: 205716
Re: Linguistic Quackery Thread, take 2
Someday I will create a ur-proto-language with no words less than three syllables, that is the most logical way to equate all languages in my mind. This language group lost these syllables, that language group lost those, viola.