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by Zaarin
Sun Oct 08, 2017 11:25 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: What do you call this?
Replies: 302
Views: 96066

Re: What do you call this?

A dessert consisting of a sweet carbonated beverage poured over ice cream: In Australia we call those spiders. Not even joking ... "Everything in Australia is trying to kill you" meme confirmed. O_O most likely with gestures because the words "left" and "right" require conscious effort for me. Me, ...
by Zaarin
Sun Oct 08, 2017 11:20 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Phonemes which are found in <5 languages or so
Replies: 54
Views: 15000

Re: Phonemes which are found in <5 languages or so

Grunnen wrote:Maybe some clicks in southern Africa and some ejectives in the PNW would make it into this category?
/xʼʷ χʼʷ/ are believed to be found only in Tlingit.
by Zaarin
Fri Oct 06, 2017 10:57 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 3108
Views: 687015

Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread

How do you pronounce "Halloween"? I pronounce it like "Hallow ween", but I've heard some people pronounce the word as if it were "Holloween". There was a separate thread on this a while back: H/æ/lloween versus H/ɑ/lloween I wonder if the "Holloween" pronunciation originates from people mistakenly ...
by Zaarin
Thu Oct 05, 2017 3:53 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
Replies: 2225
Views: 478202

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread

Pole, the wrote:I don't know, [l → ɫ → ɣ]?
Or ʎ > ʝ > ɣ, assuming <ll> was /ʎ/ at some point...
by Zaarin
Tue Oct 03, 2017 10:40 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 3108
Views: 687015

Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread

processes [ˌpʰɹ̠ˁɑˈsɛsɪz]
review [ɹ̠ˁɪˈvju~ɹ̠ˁiˈvju]
by Zaarin
Fri Sep 29, 2017 8:00 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Words you've learned recently
Replies: 248
Views: 88113

Re: Words you've learned recently

"'za" from "pizza". ...Seriously? Is that pronounced as spelled, or as /sa/ by analogy, or...? /zɑː/. Wiktionary categorizes this as "(US, Canada, slang, 1970s, 1980s)," but they only display three quotes that use this word, and they're from 1994, 2006, and 2010. The 1980s marker makes sense--it so...
by Zaarin
Fri Sep 29, 2017 12:09 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Words you've learned recently
Replies: 248
Views: 88113

Re: Words you've learned recently

linguoboy wrote:"'za" from "pizza".
...Seriously? Is that pronounced as spelled, or as /sa/ by analogy, or...?
by Zaarin
Thu Sep 28, 2017 6:59 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 3108
Views: 687015

Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread

For some reason I just can't imagine a long fricative or approximant followed by the same fricative/approximant, since it's basically a fricative that lasts for three times the usual length. I mean, of course I can imagine how it sounds , but the thought of hearing it in a conversation is about as ...
by Zaarin
Thu Sep 28, 2017 6:51 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Voynich manuscript
Replies: 40
Views: 22141

Re: Voynich manuscript

I maintain that the best evidence points to either a magical/alchemical text or glossolalia. Yes, it is probably a magical or alchemical text. But whatever it is, it may have inspired a similar work in the 1970s. Which in turn has inspired several similar works since then. If I had any artistic abi...
by Zaarin
Thu Sep 28, 2017 1:07 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 3108
Views: 687015

Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread

For some reason I just can't imagine a long fricative or approximant followed by the same fricative/approximant, since it's basically a fricative that lasts for three times the usual length. I mean, of course I can imagine how it sounds , but the thought of hearing it in a conversation is about as ...
by Zaarin
Wed Sep 27, 2017 11:20 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 3108
Views: 687015

Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread

I strongly suspect there are people for whom the vowel in "bin" is actually longer than that in "beaten". Confirmed: /t/ before /n/ becomes a glottal stop in my dialect, and preglottal vowels are quite clipped for me; meanwhile I will tend to lengthen a prenasal lax vowel to heighten contrast with ...
by Zaarin
Wed Sep 27, 2017 11:12 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Voynich manuscript
Replies: 40
Views: 22141

Re: Voynich manuscript

My only curiosity is, here, why no one has brought up all the many arguments that the Voynich is a recent fake? In other words, a conlang. One with enviable production values? I''m not a Europeanist, so I'm not speaking from intimacy so much as from scenting bullshit projected on others: the Voynic...
by Zaarin
Sun Sep 24, 2017 3:31 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Words you've learned recently
Replies: 248
Views: 88113

Re: Words you've learned recently

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/dotard Didnt realize that was an actual legitimate word, i just figured someone had replaced the re- in "retard" with do- to imply "one step lower than" (think of musical note scale, which in Eng is do, re, mi, fa, etc) I'm familiar with the word, but it's strange to ...
by Zaarin
Sat Sep 23, 2017 5:32 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 3108
Views: 687015

Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread

Zaarin: what you said was "some parts of northern interior Florida are Southern... Even then, though, it's very different from Deep South as seen in Georgia..." - and, given that 'northern interior Florida' and 'Georgia' are right next to one another, I was questioning how "very different" they rea...
by Zaarin
Sat Sep 23, 2017 2:40 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 3108
Views: 687015

Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread

And... seriously, if you drive across the Florida-Georgia border the culture is instantly "very different"? Borders don't have that sort of effect even in Europe, and here they're long-standing borders often dividing entirely different language groups! *checks* Hmm, this time I really did say that ...
by Zaarin
Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:15 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 3108
Views: 687015

Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread

Also I'd point out that Florida is the southernmost state but is not in the South; in fact, the overwhelming majority of residents in my city are from New York, Ontario, or Québec. Bullshit. That's your city, that's not the whole state. If Tallahassee isn't in the South, then where the hell is it? ...
by Zaarin
Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:07 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: What do you call this?
Replies: 302
Views: 96066

Re: What do you call this?

KathTheDragon wrote:An X float, where X is the carbonated beverage.
+1 The carbonated beverage is usually root beer but could be Coke. Of course, cream makes me sick so I don't eat ice cream.
by Zaarin
Fri Sep 22, 2017 10:16 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 3108
Views: 687015

Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread

:o I've lived in the South almost my whole life and never heard Italian with an /aɪ/. Oh, Austin. Austin really is not part of the South, though. Why not? It's in one of the southernmost states (it's less than four hours away from Mexico and was formerly owned by Mexico), it was part of the Confede...
by Zaarin
Fri Sep 22, 2017 5:21 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 3108
Views: 687015

Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread

Imralu wrote:
Salmoneus wrote:Just re-iterating that /u/ in Buddha and /V/ in Muslim sound extremely American. Like saying /aI"r{k/ or /aI"r{n/..
Or /aɪˈtæljən/ ...
Specifically Southern; most Americans have /ɪˈtæljən/.
by Zaarin
Fri Sep 22, 2017 1:15 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Voynich manuscript
Replies: 40
Views: 22141

Re: Voynich manuscript

I couldn't find the original claim, but apparently the hypothesis had something to do with the drawings of baths and fountains. There are large sections dedicated to botany and astrology, which is suggestive of a medical or alchemical text. I still prefer this theory, though: https://xkcd.com/593/ ...
by Zaarin
Fri Sep 22, 2017 10:38 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Voynich manuscript
Replies: 40
Views: 22141

Re: Voynich manuscript

I couldn't find the original claim, but apparently the hypothesis had something to do with the drawings of baths and fountains. There are large sections dedicated to botany and astrology, which is suggestive of a medical or alchemical text. I still prefer this theory, though: https://xkcd.com/593/ ...
by Zaarin
Thu Sep 21, 2017 6:05 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Voynich manuscript
Replies: 40
Views: 22141

Re: Voynich manuscript

What exactly is the basis of that assumption? The bizarre and fascinating illustrations don't seem suggestive of that topic.
by Zaarin
Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:05 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Voynich manuscript
Replies: 40
Views: 22141

Re: Voynich manuscript

The Voynich manuscript is so delightfully bizarre. A part of me wants to know what it is; a part of me would be disappointed to lose the mystery. Linear A for a conlang, but since its phonetic characteristics have supposedly been deciphered but not publicly released, that's kinda off-putting tbh... ...
by Zaarin
Tue Sep 19, 2017 5:38 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Mfalen: an attempted initial sketch
Replies: 20
Views: 13265

Re: Mfalen: an attempted initial sketch

It's unusual, I'd have thought - not being an expert! - to see a heavy reliance on word order in a 'polysynthetic' language. Unusual but not unheard of. Some polysynthetic languages, like Mohawk, have very free word order, but some of the polysynthetic languages of the PNW are much stricter. Sorry,...
by Zaarin
Tue Sep 19, 2017 1:32 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlearn
Replies: 669
Views: 163109

Re: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlea

chitin (just heard a friend get this wrong recently) Which part--the "ch"? Apparently, it's somewhat common for people to use /tʃ/ in "lichen", which seems wrong to me. But we all use /tʃ/ in "cherub(im)", so nobody has a totally solid basis for arguing against the use of /tʃ/ in such words. /ˈʧɪtɪ...