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- Mon Jul 02, 2018 1:36 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
- Replies: 2827
- Views: 631518
Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread
How do these changes look? ts tɬ tɕ→ s ɬ ɕ (but ts' tɬ' tɕ' preserved) (later) p’ k’ q’ → pf’ kx’ qχ’ → f’ x’ χ’ f' → f Assuming an initial inventory without ejective fricatives? Ejective fricatives are rare; I have a hard time imagining a system with ejective fricatives but no ejective stops. Ejec...
- Sun Jun 03, 2018 1:42 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Is German/Japanese sentence structure natural?
- Replies: 10
- Views: 34368
Re: Is German/Japanese sentence structure natural?
OP, just because something is unusual for you doesn't mean it's unnatural or any reason to believe that Japanese speakers' brains are inherently structured differently than English speakers'. Languages are stuffed full of variation that can seem quite surprising to people who aren't familiar with t...
- Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:10 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Is German/Japanese sentence structure natural?
- Replies: 10
- Views: 34368
Re: Is German/Japanese sentence structure natural?
No, it's not natural. It was artificially constructed by Basque and Ainu monks, respectively. ;) I mean, what sort of answer exactly were you expecting here? Of course it's "natural"; just because it's not the way your native language does it doesn't make it "unnatural." If relevance or importance w...
- Tue May 29, 2018 7:56 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Aʻatun Scratchpad: Inventory questions
- Replies: 116
- Views: 64607
Re: Altrunian Conlang Scratchpad: Inventory questions
Is /χ/ more naturally an allophone of /x/ or /h/? Currently, the relationship is /x→χ/ adjacent to /ɑ ⱺ/ regardless of syllable coda/mora or another uvular in the same syllable. [χ] seems more likely to be an allophone of /x/ than /h/ if both /x h/ are phonemic; if not, either one of them could hav...
- Mon May 28, 2018 11:11 am
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Aʻatun Scratchpad: Inventory questions
- Replies: 116
- Views: 64607
Re: Altrunian Conlang Scratchpad: Inventory questions
Not nearly as strange as having no back rounded vowels...
- Sun May 27, 2018 10:51 am
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Aʻatun Scratchpad: Inventory questions
- Replies: 116
- Views: 64607
Re: Altrunian Conlang Scratchpad: Inventory questions
I find /i e̞ u ɑ/ more likely than /i e̞ o̞ ɑ/. Some variation of /i e o a/ is pretty common in North America. Okay, but what about outside of there? Off the top of my head I can't think of any four vowel systems outside of North America, though I'm sure they exist; every Old World language I can t...
- Sat May 26, 2018 9:07 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Aʻatun Scratchpad: Inventory questions
- Replies: 116
- Views: 64607
Re: Altrunian Conlang Scratchpad: Inventory questions
Some variation of /i e o a/ is pretty common in North America.Vijay wrote:I find /i e̞ u ɑ/ more likely than /i e̞ o̞ ɑ/.
- Sat May 26, 2018 8:34 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Aʻatun Scratchpad: Inventory questions
- Replies: 116
- Views: 64607
Re: Altrunian Conlang Scratchpad: Inventory questions
I'd say equally likely.yangfiretiger121 wrote:Okay. I may end up with a four (/i e̞ u ɑ/ or /i e̞ o̞ ɑ/) or five (/i e̞ u o̞ ɑ/) system. If there's a four vowel system, is /u>o̞/ or /o̞>u/ more likely?
- Fri May 25, 2018 10:36 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
- Replies: 3108
- Views: 666235
Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
Sporadically.bbbosborne wrote:does anyone say english with an /i/ and not an /ɪ/??
- Wed May 23, 2018 9:12 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
- Replies: 3108
- Views: 666235
Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
Indo-European [ˌɪndəʊ̯ˈjʊɹ̠ˁəʊ̯ˌpʰiən]
Algonquian [æɫˈgɒŋkiɪn]
Japonic [ʤæˈpʰɑnɪk]
Korean [kʰɵˈɹ̠ˁiən]
Xhosa [ˈkʰəʊ̯sə]
Cherokee [ʧʰɛɹ̠ˁɵˈkʰi]
Klingon [ˈt͡ɬɪŋɑn ˈχol] -- I'm just kidding: [ˈkʰɫɪŋɑn]
English [ˈɪŋgɫɪʃ]
Algonquian [æɫˈgɒŋkiɪn]
Japonic [ʤæˈpʰɑnɪk]
Korean [kʰɵˈɹ̠ˁiən]
Xhosa [ˈkʰəʊ̯sə]
Cherokee [ʧʰɛɹ̠ˁɵˈkʰi]
Klingon [ˈt͡ɬɪŋɑn ˈχol] -- I'm just kidding: [ˈkʰɫɪŋɑn]
English [ˈɪŋgɫɪʃ]
- Tue May 22, 2018 5:14 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
- Replies: 3108
- Views: 666235
Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
Joseph Stalin [ˈʤəʊ̯sɪf ˈstɑɫɪn] Wilhelm Röntgen [ˈwɪɫhɛɫm ˈrɒntgɛn] OR [ˈvɪɫhɛɫm ˈrœntgən] Marie Skłodowska-Curie [məˈɹ̠ˁi ˈkʰʊɹ̠ˁi~ˈkʰjuɹ̠ˁi] Niels Bohr [ˈniɫz ˈbɔɹ̠ˁ] (NB [ɔ] is not my CAUGHT vowel but a reduce /oː/ [əʊ̯] before a liquid) Erwin Schrödinger [ˈɹ̩wɪn ʃɹ̠ˁəʊ̯diŋɹ̩~ʃɹ̠ˁœdiŋɹ̩] Gerard...
- Sun May 20, 2018 2:17 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Aʻatun Scratchpad: Inventory questions
- Replies: 116
- Views: 64607
Re: Altrunian Conlang Scratchpad: Inventory questions
/ç ç ʝ ʝ/ or /ç ç ʝ j/ are perhaps the most obvious short of depalatalizing. /ʋʲ/ > /v/ is also not inconceivable. I'd buy /θʲ/ > /ɕ~ʃ/.
- Sat May 19, 2018 7:44 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Lortho: An Artistic Conlang
- Replies: 6
- Views: 6416
Re: Lortho: An Artistic Conlang
That script (and papyrus) is gorgeous.
- Fri May 18, 2018 4:08 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Aʻatun Scratchpad: Inventory questions
- Replies: 116
- Views: 64607
Re: Altrunian Conlang Scratchpad: Inventory questions
/l > ɫ > w~ɰ > ʋ/ is plausible.yangfiretiger121 wrote:Is /l→ʋ/ a likely change?
- Mon May 14, 2018 5:04 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlearn
- Replies: 669
- Views: 157142
Re: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlea
I have /ɪ/ in wyvern, probably due to Dragon Age, and Wiktionary lists it as an acceptable pronunciation, though it gives /ai/ first.
- Mon May 14, 2018 11:21 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
- Replies: 3108
- Views: 666235
Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
salty [ˈsɑɫti~ˈsɑɫʔi]
suit [ˈsuʔ]
suit [ˈsuʔ]
- Fri May 11, 2018 9:01 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlearn
- Replies: 669
- Views: 157142
Re: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlea
Undine is apparently pronounced to rhyme with "mean", not "mine". I don't think I will change my pronunciation, but I haven't said the word out loud in 20 years and probably won't within the next 20. (It was in a popular video game and an unrelated book I found once.) Huh, so it is. Somehow that ma...
- Wed May 09, 2018 5:49 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
- Replies: 3108
- Views: 666235
Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
Atlantic [æʔˈɫæntɪk] (the first [æ] may be realized as [æ~ɛ~ɪ] in quick speech)
czar [ˈzɑɹ̱ˁ]
czar [ˈzɑɹ̱ˁ]
- Sun May 06, 2018 4:20 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
- Replies: 3108
- Views: 666235
Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
I vary between [θɛɪ̯ŋk] in careful speech and [θɛŋk] in more casual speech, the latter being homophonous with a quick pronunciation of think as well ([θɪŋk] in more careful speech).
- Sun May 06, 2018 4:17 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Is it better to say "for you and me" than "for me and you"?
- Replies: 7
- Views: 6423
Re: Is it better to say "for you and me" than "for me and yo
Traditionally it's considered "good form" to put the first person pronoun second, but colloquially I doubt many people care.
- Sat May 05, 2018 10:36 am
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Writing system, not sure which one to use.
- Replies: 16
- Views: 12083
Re: Writing system, not sure which one to use.
For a more constructed effect, it's a question of finding a new system which makes it possible to maximize the possibilities of your conlang ... The fact that Akkadian used Sumerian cuneiform for hundreds of years or that Middle Persian used Aramaic words as logograms suggests that "maximizing the ...
- Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:24 am
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
- Replies: 2827
- Views: 631518
Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread
s z > ʃ ʒ, no problem.Knit Tie wrote:Would it be possible to have sound changes first result in /s̺ z̺/ > /ʃ ʒ/, and then have /ʒ dz/ > /z/, so that the most common sibilants in the language are /ʃ/ and /z/?
dz > z, no problem
I am, however, a little skeptical of ʒ > z but not ʃ > s.
- Thu Apr 26, 2018 2:33 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Lortho: An Artistic Conlang
- Replies: 6
- Views: 6416
Re: Lortho: An Artistic Conlang
I like the aesthetic, both of the writing system and the language itself.
- Thu Apr 26, 2018 12:24 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: A sixth pronunciation for the letter "x".
- Replies: 33
- Views: 19240
Re: A sixth pronunciation for the letter "x".
I'm just astonished people still name their poor child "Ralph." It's like naming your daughter "Gertrude" or "Beatrice." :p I mean, that's the connotation in the USA (where the name is as good as dead ), but "Ralph" has a different history in other countries. "Beatrice" has actually made a slight c...
- Wed Apr 25, 2018 10:54 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: A sixth pronunciation for the letter "x".
- Replies: 33
- Views: 19240
Re: A sixth pronunciation for the letter "x".
I'm just astonished people still name their poor child "Ralph." It's like naming your daughter "Gertrude" or "Beatrice." :p