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Oh wow, one counter-example. Excuse me! I suppose I better just throw out everything else I've ever heard and forget the tendencies I have both observed myself and heard and read repeated from others just because you don't think they're very hard . Hmm... Aggressiveness much? It seems to me English...

Perhaps these links would help (please ignore high-level links): *sal- 'to jump' *sam- 'summer' *sel- 'dwelling, settlement' (+ Latin solum ) They are all regular, showing /h/ instead of /s/ in exactly those branches which have shifted initial /s/ to /h/. The first two may actually have been *sh2al...

The Proto-Europic form which I reconstruct as *sxal- I do not reconstruct that way just because IE has /s/ and Hesperic has /h/. There is evidence for the /x/ from IE alone: the /a/-vocalism of the IE word hints at the presence of a *h2 (= Proto-Europic *x) before the vowel, which was as usual lost...

I thought it was generally reconstructed as tʲ > t. Sorry to be so picky. I've only seen [tʲ] ever suggested for *ć (usually taken as [tsʲ] or [tɕ] or [c]), which :> *ts. *č certainly wasn't palatalized. In theory it could have been [ts], but all langs that don't shift ʃ :> s (and some that do, lik...

I thought most languages disallowed onset clusters. So, with no onset clusters but coda clusters we also have: Hungarian (…) Turkish Most Uralic languages from Mari eastwards, really. IIUC also most Turkic and Mongolic languages. German: Herku nftsw örterbuch (4C-1C; all-native for 'etymologic dict...

In any case, tS > ts is attested elsewhere. That actually helps me a lot, since I've been looking for a way to generate /t/ in a few languages that have plenty of /tS/. Baltic Finnic has tʃ :> t directly (*ts remains, might have still been palatalized *tsʲ back then however). This is also found in ...

I've seen f :> θ :> t posited for an Oceanic language (Fijian IIRC?) /T/ > /t/ happens in most North Germanic varieties that aren't Icelandic, by the way, although I don't think any North Germanic variety has /T/ > /t/ in all cases (Faroese has some /T/ > /h/, most Scandinavian dialects have some /T...

Peru—Constellation
80s underground Dutch synth music, so I'm not even going to try chcking on YouTube here.

In fact, Proto-Germanic has many words with no likely PIE etymnology. There's a big and very important difference here between "no likely" and "no known", which is at the root of the reasons why nobody here agrees with your methodology. I'm not going to waste any time explaining it, because it shou...

Hakaku wrote:In reality, however, such a subsequent change as /h/ → /∅/ isn't always admissible due to a number of phonological constraints.

Can you elaborate?

Hence we have words like sang and wing but nothing with {eng} except for a few things like {length} and {strength} and of course the word {English} itself. Are there really people who say "English" with [E]? The pronunciation is so ingrained with me that I even ported it to German until I was corre...

ɸ → h → ∅ (Tungusic, Japonic) I'm not quite sure that this is true for Japanese, rather, /ɸ/ became an approximant /w/ in intervocalic position, and was subsequently deleted everywhere except before the vowel /a/ (though a few Southern dialects fall exception to this rule). This change took place b...

Rogern Blench notes in his 2nd paper on Niger-Saharan that #KARV words for "crab" are actually found thruout the Old World, eg. Austronesian *kaʀaŋ, Benue-Congo *kara.

Again, in the dialects in which this deletion takes place[*], the loss occurs only word-internally and in coda position. In initial position (e.g a chéile ), it is retained. [*] I assume one of the two singers you have in mind is Enya, a native-speaker from Gaoth Dhobhair. Ah, OK. Still, if the OP ...

The sheer number of sound correspondences between certain words in some IE languages with no known cognates in other branches (!) and various Semitic or Vasco-Caucasian words is simply too great. Well, if there are so many of these cognate words, you should be able to give us at least 50 or so cogn...

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Tropylium⁺ wrote:I'm seeking to fill the series. Does anyone have examples for:
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• ʃ (without loss of /x/ or /s/)
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Unless I'm majorly brainfarting here, Spanish lost /ʃ/ when it became /x/.

It lost /ʃ/ as a phoneme, yes, but I mean a development ʃ ∅ specifically.

Daturah – Reverie (album) It's instrumental post-rock and as such doesn't come with lyrics, besides voice samples in a couple of pieces (e.g. Hybrisma contains some German, and Shoal (on the self-titled album) has quotations from Aguirre ). The band is from Frankfurt, Germany, however. Speaking of ...

There are examples for the loss (usually with at least a possible [h] stage) of pretty much any voiceless fricativ: • ɸ :> h :> ∅ (Tungusic) • f (? :> ɸ) :> h :> ∅ (Spanish) • θ :> h :> ∅ (IIRC Scottish Gaelic) • ɬ :> ∅ (Zan languages) • s :> h :> ∅ (Greek, Iranian, etc.) • ʃ (? :> x ) :> h :> ∅ (Vo...

Deep Forest — Made in Japan
(the most "world music" album in my collection)

Shm Jay wrote:I’d rather look at 8 new pictures of Skomakar'n, all exactly like the other in pose and hairstyle, than have to wade through all this philosophy.

My apologies for feeding the Pthug. I submit my likeness in compensation.

For that matter, some other specialized sites: - arXiv - Discogs Never heard of those... arXiv is where math happens. Discogs is where electronic music (sales etc.) happens. -xkcd -Instapundit -Animeleague.net (if you are into anime, I suppose) -megatokyo seems like all I can think of are webcomics...

- Internet Archive [archive of dead webpages, creative commons media, etc.] - PayPal [helpful for paying for anything, if you don't like sharing credit card details with just anyone; eBay sister company] - Amazon [sells books, music, etc.] - Tineye (new kid on the block) [reverse Google Image Search...

Vegan is a long way off for anyone, including vegans: http://gizmodo.com/5672560/there-is-no-escape-from-cows (edit for clarification: my post was in jest. No idea if the picture was or not. I do believe that vegan alternatives exist for a lot of the things listed?) Here's a shorter proof: pesticid...

Wait, really? Spontaneous affrication of a sibilant? I 'll have to add that one to the ol' "Most Wanted Sound Changes" list. A less contentious example: Uralic *ś ([sʲ] or [ɕ]) :> Proto-Samic *ć ([tɕ]). Anyway, though, tzade represents a merger of several Proto-Semitic emphatics, all of which are r...

savagemyth wrote:Any resources on the Ryukyuan languages? Much appreciated. =]

For starters, here's a small discussion with a link to a dissertation in French:
http://amritas.com/101023.htm#10192359

(Depending on your degree of previous exposure, prepare for having your mind blown.)