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- Tue Dec 20, 2011 4:10 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Origin of Ejectives
- Replies: 32
- Views: 9990
Re: Origin of Ejectives
So, as a consequence of that, I tried to derive ejectives by snuggling a glottal stop up against a pulmonic stop. I started with a very simple phonology of normal pulmonic consonants and simple CV phonotactics. Then I'd debuccalize intervocalic /t/. Then delete, say, /u/ before a glottal stop. Which...
- Tue Dec 20, 2011 4:02 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Origin of Ejectives
- Replies: 32
- Views: 9990
Re: Origin of Ejectives
I had a quick conlang sketch a few months ago that developed ejectives, although they weren't part of the normal inventory. I actually didn't know how to produce ejectives, but I learned how to do it with this sketch. What happened was basically that it had normal pulmonic stops, as well as a glotta...
- Tue Dec 20, 2011 3:46 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: "them boys"
- Replies: 26
- Views: 3824
Re: "them boys"
Yea, I think my Googling was driven by my perception of it as a Southernism, probably mostly because I think of Southern English when I think of vernacular or nonliterary English, but it's noted as being widely present in many vernacular Englishes.
- Tue Dec 20, 2011 3:08 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: "them boys"
- Replies: 26
- Views: 3824
Re: "them boys"
I mostly hear the song lyrics as "We three kings of Orient are bearing gifts [mumble mumble]" And travel afar? It seems like demonstrative them dates from Early Modern English and Shakespeare, but became a vernacular, nonliterary, and dialectical form by the 18th century. It persists at least in AAV...
- Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:44 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: NPR story on Tamil language reform?
- Replies: 5
- Views: 1433
NPR story on Tamil language reform?
I remember hearing a story on NPR within the past year or two. It was about a Tamil (IIRC) poet or author who was talking about the difficulty of reforming or producing modern literature in Tamil, because of the weight of the language's traditional literature. He was trying to standardize the langua...
- Fri Dec 02, 2011 2:48 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: that National Geographic special
- Replies: 4
- Views: 1434
Re: that National Geographic special
My amazing Google powers couldn't find it, but I did find this video Lips of Babel, which is great.
- Sun Nov 13, 2011 4:17 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Tripartite alignment discussion
- Replies: 6
- Views: 1926
Re: Tripartite alignment discussion
I think it would be much easier to do a tripartite alignment if you explicitly mark case with inflections or adpositions. But then it would be easy enough. If you had an isolating language that marks these relationships with word order, it seems like the tripartite system would quickly collapse into...
- Sat Nov 12, 2011 12:51 am
- Forum: None of the above
- Topic: ZBB Census
- Replies: 356
- Views: 74354
Re: ZBB Census
Age bracket: 30-34 Gender: Male Nationality: American State/Province/Other Subdivision: Louisville, Kentucky Occupation: Assistant editor/grad student Sexual Orientation: Heterosexual Status: Married Native Language: English Secondary Languages: Japanese, and I read some French Languages I Want to L...
- Thu Nov 10, 2011 1:52 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Arka: an a priori conlang with 14,000 words from Japan
- Replies: 197
- Views: 46527
Re: Arka: an a priori conlang with 14,000 words from Japan
Sure. Don't design the orthography for linguistically-naive Americans. But explain it to them somewhere. The lessons have some pointers on avoiding common pitfalls, like distinguishing between l and r or between rhotic consonants. "Doova"/"duva" is probably a similar pitfall for an English-speaking ...
- Thu Nov 10, 2011 1:36 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Arka: an a priori conlang with 14,000 words from Japan
- Replies: 197
- Views: 46527
Re: Arka: an a priori conlang with 14,000 words from Japan
I love that chart, guitarplayer.
- Thu Nov 10, 2011 1:35 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Arka: an a priori conlang with 14,000 words from Japan
- Replies: 197
- Views: 46527
Re: Arka: an a priori conlang with 14,000 words from Japan
Some questions! Soonoyun means hello. ...Doova (see you later) ! In the romanization of Arka, what does doubling the vowel mean? Is it pronounced like in Japanese, or a long vowel in a different language? Is Arka mora-timed or syllable-timed? "soonoyun"はソーノユンって言う? "doova"はドーヴァみたい? It's probably too ...
- Thu Nov 10, 2011 1:11 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Arka: an a priori conlang with 14,000 words from Japan
- Replies: 197
- Views: 46527
Re: Lein's lesson and so on
[7]"the alphabet" is fine, but I think I'd prefer "the Roman alphabet" (or "the Latin alphabet"), because it's not the only alphabet on Earth! Yes, the discussion of alphabets was a little confusing, because it conflates three separate concepts: the Lunar alphabet, the Latin alphabet, and the roman...
- Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:32 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Arka: an a priori conlang with 14,000 words from Japan
- Replies: 197
- Views: 46527
Re: Arka: an a priori conlang with 14,000 words from Japan
Some of that is nitpicking, or not actually wrong ;) The English text was not written by a native speaker, but it was mostly OK, clear, and comprehensible. And I'm glad the author is making this information available in English. 大丈夫よ。がんばって! I don't love anime, but the anime characters are fine. It's...
- Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:07 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Gomain (now 100% digraph-free!)
- Replies: 51
- Views: 15920
Re: Gomain (reintroduction)
The PDF is not displaying non-punctuation/non-mathematical symbols for some reason. Do you have a jpg of it up somewhere?
- Wed Nov 09, 2011 5:07 pm
- Forum: C&C Archive
- Topic: Inyauk
- Replies: 51
- Views: 27181
Re: Inyauk
O, sad. I skimmed through the grammar once or twice and thought it had a really nice feel. And this sounds like you're abandoning it and it is no longer supported.
- Wed Nov 09, 2011 4:56 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Arka: an a priori conlang with 14,000 words from Japan
- Replies: 197
- Views: 46527
Re: Arka: an a priori conlang with 14,000 words from Japan
So, "c" is an alveolar trill? Whereas "r" is an alveolar approximent as in American English?
If you're writing for a popular audience, most English speakers call the alveolar trill a "rolled r".
If you're writing for a popular audience, most English speakers call the alveolar trill a "rolled r".
- Fri Nov 04, 2011 12:51 pm
- Forum: C&C Archive
- Topic: The Semantic Drift Thread
- Replies: 127
- Views: 49817
Re: The Semantic Drift Thread
sleep > sleepy > tired > hard-working > diligent > rigorous > strict > cruel > heavy
Next word: heavy.
Next word: heavy.
- Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:38 am
- Forum: C&C Archive
- Topic: The Semantic Drift Thread
- Replies: 127
- Views: 49817
Re: The Semantic Drift Thread
have an idea > eureka moment > epiphany > religious or ideological conversion > become a heretic > become a witch > witchcraft > sorcery
Next word: sorcery.
Next word: sorcery.
- Wed Oct 26, 2011 11:21 pm
- Forum: C&C Archive
- Topic: The Semantic Drift Thread
- Replies: 127
- Views: 49817
Re: The Semantic Drift Thread
to honor > to worship > to idolize > idol > a dummy > a fake > a swindler > a swindle > a hoax > a chimera > an illusion > a shape in the clouds > cloud
Next word: cloud.
Next word: cloud.
- Mon Oct 24, 2011 8:10 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: English: long sandwich
- Replies: 141
- Views: 19082
Re: English: long sandwich
So thinking about this more, we probably just don't have a clear taxonomy of sandwiches. Mostly because it isn't all that important, probably, so we haven't thought about it much. We've been trained to identify, from a list of rabbits, deer, whales, and meadows, to identify the meadow as the item th...
- Sat Oct 22, 2011 11:06 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Short survey on English
- Replies: 18
- Views: 3238
Re: Short survey on English
All are fine. 3 is shortest, so it's probably the best. I suspect I might produce #2 or #3, but not produce #1, although it sounds fine.
It makes me think of this, although the part of speech is different:
It makes me think of this, although the part of speech is different:
Theirs not to reason why,
Theirs but to do and die.
- Sat Oct 22, 2011 10:53 pm
- Forum: C&C Archive
- Topic: The Semantic Drift Thread
- Replies: 127
- Views: 49817
Re: The Semantic Drift Thread
wharf > harbor > port > port town > commercially important town > fortified market town > fortified winter military settlement > fortified frontier settlement > fortified settlement > bastle > farmhouse > barn
Next word: barn.
Next word: barn.
- Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:34 pm
- Forum: C&C Archive
- Topic: The Semantic Drift Thread
- Replies: 127
- Views: 49817
Re: The Semantic Drift Thread
barrage > barraged > besiged > pinned down > immobilized > paralyzed > comatose > sleep paralysis > night-mare or hag (supernatural creature) > succubus > fashionable young woman > fashionable clothing > feathers > feather
Next word: feather.
Next word: feather.
- Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:15 pm
- Forum: C&C Archive
- Topic: The Semantic Drift Thread
- Replies: 127
- Views: 49817
Re: The Semantic Drift Thread
ripple > undulate > dance sensuously > prostitute > unmarried woman > bride > wife
Next word: wife.
Next word: wife.
- Fri Oct 21, 2011 6:56 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: English: long sandwich
- Replies: 141
- Views: 19082
Re: English: long sandwich
Yea, thank goodness we didn't get into wraps. Which are usually kind of gross, anyway.
Also:
This Is Not a Cheesesteak.
Also:
This Is Not a Cheesesteak.