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by Gojera
Tue Dec 20, 2011 4:10 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Origin of Ejectives
Replies: 32
Views: 9990

Re: Origin of Ejectives

So, as a consequence of that, I tried to derive ejectives by snuggling a glottal stop up against a pulmonic stop. I started with a very simple phonology of normal pulmonic consonants and simple CV phonotactics. Then I'd debuccalize intervocalic /t/. Then delete, say, /u/ before a glottal stop. Which...
by Gojera
Tue Dec 20, 2011 4:02 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Origin of Ejectives
Replies: 32
Views: 9990

Re: Origin of Ejectives

I had a quick conlang sketch a few months ago that developed ejectives, although they weren't part of the normal inventory. I actually didn't know how to produce ejectives, but I learned how to do it with this sketch. What happened was basically that it had normal pulmonic stops, as well as a glotta...
by Gojera
Tue Dec 20, 2011 3:46 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: "them boys"
Replies: 26
Views: 3824

Re: "them boys"

Yea, I think my Googling was driven by my perception of it as a Southernism, probably mostly because I think of Southern English when I think of vernacular or nonliterary English, but it's noted as being widely present in many vernacular Englishes.
by Gojera
Tue Dec 20, 2011 3:08 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: "them boys"
Replies: 26
Views: 3824

Re: "them boys"

I mostly hear the song lyrics as "We three kings of Orient are bearing gifts [mumble mumble]" And travel afar? It seems like demonstrative them dates from Early Modern English and Shakespeare, but became a vernacular, nonliterary, and dialectical form by the 18th century. It persists at least in AAV...
by Gojera
Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:44 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: NPR story on Tamil language reform?
Replies: 5
Views: 1433

NPR story on Tamil language reform?

I remember hearing a story on NPR within the past year or two. It was about a Tamil (IIRC) poet or author who was talking about the difficulty of reforming or producing modern literature in Tamil, because of the weight of the language's traditional literature. He was trying to standardize the langua...
by Gojera
Fri Dec 02, 2011 2:48 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: that National Geographic special
Replies: 4
Views: 1434

Re: that National Geographic special

My amazing Google powers couldn't find it, but I did find this video Lips of Babel, which is great.
by Gojera
Sun Nov 13, 2011 4:17 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Tripartite alignment discussion
Replies: 6
Views: 1926

Re: Tripartite alignment discussion

I think it would be much easier to do a tripartite alignment if you explicitly mark case with inflections or adpositions. But then it would be easy enough. If you had an isolating language that marks these relationships with word order, it seems like the tripartite system would quickly collapse into...
by Gojera
Sat Nov 12, 2011 12:51 am
Forum: None of the above
Topic: ZBB Census
Replies: 356
Views: 74354

Re: ZBB Census

Age bracket: 30-34 Gender: Male Nationality: American State/Province/Other Subdivision: Louisville, Kentucky Occupation: Assistant editor/grad student Sexual Orientation: Heterosexual Status: Married Native Language: English Secondary Languages: Japanese, and I read some French Languages I Want to L...
by Gojera
Thu Nov 10, 2011 1:52 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Arka: an a priori conlang with 14,000 words from Japan
Replies: 197
Views: 46527

Re: Arka: an a priori conlang with 14,000 words from Japan

Sure. Don't design the orthography for linguistically-naive Americans. But explain it to them somewhere. The lessons have some pointers on avoiding common pitfalls, like distinguishing between l and r or between rhotic consonants. "Doova"/"duva" is probably a similar pitfall for an English-speaking ...
by Gojera
Thu Nov 10, 2011 1:36 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Arka: an a priori conlang with 14,000 words from Japan
Replies: 197
Views: 46527

Re: Arka: an a priori conlang with 14,000 words from Japan

I love that chart, guitarplayer.
by Gojera
Thu Nov 10, 2011 1:35 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Arka: an a priori conlang with 14,000 words from Japan
Replies: 197
Views: 46527

Re: Arka: an a priori conlang with 14,000 words from Japan

Some questions! Soonoyun means hello. ...Doova (see you later) ! In the romanization of Arka, what does doubling the vowel mean? Is it pronounced like in Japanese, or a long vowel in a different language? Is Arka mora-timed or syllable-timed? "soonoyun"はソーノユンって言う? "doova"はドーヴァみたい? It's probably too ...
by Gojera
Thu Nov 10, 2011 1:11 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Arka: an a priori conlang with 14,000 words from Japan
Replies: 197
Views: 46527

Re: Lein's lesson and so on

[7]"the alphabet" is fine, but I think I'd prefer "the Roman alphabet" (or "the Latin alphabet"), because it's not the only alphabet on Earth! Yes, the discussion of alphabets was a little confusing, because it conflates three separate concepts: the Lunar alphabet, the Latin alphabet, and the roman...
by Gojera
Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:32 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Arka: an a priori conlang with 14,000 words from Japan
Replies: 197
Views: 46527

Re: Arka: an a priori conlang with 14,000 words from Japan

Some of that is nitpicking, or not actually wrong ;) The English text was not written by a native speaker, but it was mostly OK, clear, and comprehensible. And I'm glad the author is making this information available in English. 大丈夫よ。がんばって! I don't love anime, but the anime characters are fine. It's...
by Gojera
Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:07 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Gomain (now 100% digraph-free!)
Replies: 51
Views: 15920

Re: Gomain (reintroduction)

The PDF is not displaying non-punctuation/non-mathematical symbols for some reason. Do you have a jpg of it up somewhere?
by Gojera
Wed Nov 09, 2011 5:07 pm
Forum: C&C Archive
Topic: Inyauk
Replies: 51
Views: 27181

Re: Inyauk

O, sad. I skimmed through the grammar once or twice and thought it had a really nice feel. And this sounds like you're abandoning it and it is no longer supported.
by Gojera
Wed Nov 09, 2011 4:56 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Arka: an a priori conlang with 14,000 words from Japan
Replies: 197
Views: 46527

Re: Arka: an a priori conlang with 14,000 words from Japan

So, "c" is an alveolar trill? Whereas "r" is an alveolar approximent as in American English?

If you're writing for a popular audience, most English speakers call the alveolar trill a "rolled r".
by Gojera
Fri Nov 04, 2011 12:51 pm
Forum: C&C Archive
Topic: The Semantic Drift Thread
Replies: 127
Views: 49817

Re: The Semantic Drift Thread

sleep > sleepy > tired > hard-working > diligent > rigorous > strict > cruel > heavy

Next word: heavy.
by Gojera
Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:38 am
Forum: C&C Archive
Topic: The Semantic Drift Thread
Replies: 127
Views: 49817

Re: The Semantic Drift Thread

have an idea > eureka moment > epiphany > religious or ideological conversion > become a heretic > become a witch > witchcraft > sorcery

Next word: sorcery.
by Gojera
Wed Oct 26, 2011 11:21 pm
Forum: C&C Archive
Topic: The Semantic Drift Thread
Replies: 127
Views: 49817

Re: The Semantic Drift Thread

to honor > to worship > to idolize > idol > a dummy > a fake > a swindler > a swindle > a hoax > a chimera > an illusion > a shape in the clouds > cloud

Next word: cloud.
by Gojera
Mon Oct 24, 2011 8:10 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: English: long sandwich
Replies: 141
Views: 19082

Re: English: long sandwich

So thinking about this more, we probably just don't have a clear taxonomy of sandwiches. Mostly because it isn't all that important, probably, so we haven't thought about it much. We've been trained to identify, from a list of rabbits, deer, whales, and meadows, to identify the meadow as the item th...
by Gojera
Sat Oct 22, 2011 11:06 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Short survey on English
Replies: 18
Views: 3238

Re: Short survey on English

All are fine. 3 is shortest, so it's probably the best. I suspect I might produce #2 or #3, but not produce #1, although it sounds fine.

It makes me think of this, although the part of speech is different:
Theirs not to reason why,
Theirs but to do and die.
by Gojera
Sat Oct 22, 2011 10:53 pm
Forum: C&C Archive
Topic: The Semantic Drift Thread
Replies: 127
Views: 49817

Re: The Semantic Drift Thread

wharf > harbor > port > port town > commercially important town > fortified market town > fortified winter military settlement > fortified frontier settlement > fortified settlement > bastle > farmhouse > barn

Next word: barn.
by Gojera
Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:34 pm
Forum: C&C Archive
Topic: The Semantic Drift Thread
Replies: 127
Views: 49817

Re: The Semantic Drift Thread

barrage > barraged > besiged > pinned down > immobilized > paralyzed > comatose > sleep paralysis > night-mare or hag (supernatural creature) > succubus > fashionable young woman > fashionable clothing > feathers > feather

Next word: feather.
by Gojera
Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:15 pm
Forum: C&C Archive
Topic: The Semantic Drift Thread
Replies: 127
Views: 49817

Re: The Semantic Drift Thread

ripple > undulate > dance sensuously > prostitute > unmarried woman > bride > wife

Next word: wife.
by Gojera
Fri Oct 21, 2011 6:56 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: English: long sandwich
Replies: 141
Views: 19082

Re: English: long sandwich

Yea, thank goodness we didn't get into wraps. Which are usually kind of gross, anyway.

Also:

This Is Not a Cheesesteak.