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- Wed Jun 15, 2016 12:31 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Help your conlang fluency (2)
- Replies: 6633
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Re: Help your conlang fluency
na'etla inauempa ehe na tekyo inapak I really like eating that, but I cannot eat pasta. Ya sag sodm kojyka sa nbee kuyu? [ja˩ saŋ˩ sɞm˥˩ ˈkɞj˥.ga sa˩ n͡mœ̤ː˩ ˈkʉ˩.jʉ] Why can't you eat pasta? Yoha, ya tuh tojn yivko pac maasako ci ta sa? Ya tuuy yiko maasako sa? [ˈjo̝˩.ʁɑ ja˩ to̝ħ˩ tɞn˥ ˈjḭʔ˨˦.ɠɞ p...
- Fri Jun 10, 2016 1:18 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Lexicon Building
- Replies: 4308
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Re: Lexicon Building
It is fine Sucaeyl, I LOVED TO SEE your head-last construction... Thanks! I definitely took inspiration from Japanese when it comes to nominal syntax. next: fence, barrier with windows to see through han ci yoroj gic tesb la tata [χɑn˩ çi˩ jɔˈɾɔ˥ ŋiç˩ tœs͡ɸ˩ la˩ ˈta˩da] fence , literally, wall with...
- Fri Jun 10, 2016 11:16 am
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Help your conlang fluency (2)
- Replies: 6633
- Views: 800303
Re: Help your conlang fluency
na'etla nomompa I like that a lot. Kafo! Tis, ya xuuta tojn lev ta tojn tijm kasb ci te la ligfidne tav se yov ta sa? [ˈka˩βɔ ‖ tis˩ | ʃʉˑtˑa tɔn˥ lɛ̰ʔ˨˦ ta˩ tɔn˥ tim˥ kɑs͡ɸ˩ çi˩ tɛ˩ la˩ liŋ.ˈβi˥˩.nɛ ta̰ʔ˧˦ sɛ˩ jɔ̰ʔ˨˦ ta˩ sa˩] Thanks! Or, is it linguine with clams itself that you like?
- Thu Jun 09, 2016 11:21 am
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Lexicon Building
- Replies: 4308
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Re: Lexicon Building
NEXT: sweet food, dessert, soemthing eaten after a meal koos la qofo sugar COM food [kɞːs˩ la˩ ˈqɔ˩βɔ] dessert , literally 'food with sugar' sefekyud ci tbes macar qofo meal GEN after TEMP food [sɛβɛgˈjʉ˥˩ çi˩ t͡pœs ˈmaʝaɾ ˈqɔ˩βɔ] dessert , literally 'food for after a meal' EDIT: Shoot, sorry Dama,...
- Sun Jun 05, 2016 3:01 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Help your conlang fluency (2)
- Replies: 6633
- Views: 800303
Re: Help your conlang fluency
Yejsta ga sodm tojn lev ta tojn tijm kas ci te la ligfidne fa. [ˈjɛz˥.da ŋa˩ sɔm˥˩ tɔn˥ lɛ̰ʔ˨˦ ta˩ tɔn˥ tim˥ kas˩ çi˩ te˩ la˩ liŋ.ˈβi˥˩.nɛ ɸa˩] 'I want to eat linguine with clams.' For some reason I was willing to borrow 'linguine' but not 'clam'. Here's the gloss: Yejsta ga sodm tojn lev ta tojn t...
- Sat Jun 04, 2016 11:44 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Lexicon Building
- Replies: 4308
- Views: 832665
Re: Lexicon Building
next: 'bake' kadyog kayovg bake.PT bake.AT [ka˥˩jɔŋ] [kajɔ̰ʔ˨˦ŋ̩] Kadyog nara (fa). bake.PT quiche (1) [ka˥˩jɔŋ naɾa˩ (ɸa˩)] 'The quiche (was) baked (by me).' Kayovg fa (nara). bake.AT 1 (quiche) [kajɔ̰ʔ˨˦ŋ̩ ɸa˩ (naɾa˩)] 'I baked (the quiche).' –––––––––––––– Next: wine tasting ––––––––––––––
- Sat Jun 04, 2016 1:19 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Lexicon Building
- Replies: 4308
- Views: 832665
Re: Lexicon Building
[What does purpositive do? "glass for fingertrips"? I like that, and since I seem to have created my language without a dative case, I need to find a way to express dative meanings some other way. I might use the purposiitve constructiion for that (althiough it isnt a case). Yep, that's what I had ...
- Tue May 31, 2016 1:15 am
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Spontaneous collaborative conlangs
- Replies: 5
- Views: 2431
Re: Spontaneous collaborative conlangs
several cool things sucaeyl did not know about I didn't know about either of these! Admittedly I did no research before posting here. These are neat. ...we ended up handling subclauses by having both a 'begin subclause' word and an 'end subclause' word. they were, respectively, l and r This is fant...
- Mon May 30, 2016 1:21 am
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Help your conlang fluency (2)
- Replies: 6633
- Views: 800303
Re: Help your conlang fluency
May džuoy źe žaŋ na luy si zyauŋ qa yo ʔiŋ may phyoy źe ńa thie na tšie ta qwur may ńiʔ yo. [mɛj dʐyøj ʑe ʐaɴ na lyj si zjɑɴ qa jo ʔiɴ mɛj pʰjøj ʑe ɲa tʰie na tʂie ta qʷyɻ mɛj ɲiʔ jo] I like how Old Zlang has turned out and I do not know what more to do with it. Sula tiyovn tojn sijp 'siyaag' sen, ...
- Sun May 29, 2016 5:09 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Spontaneous collaborative conlangs
- Replies: 5
- Views: 2431
Spontaneous collaborative conlangs
Hello! Has anyone else tried this? Grabbing someone who either • is also interested in linguistics/conlanging, or; • is otherwise willing to embark on unconventional adventures with you and creating a language, right there. I've done it a few times, but the most interesting and fun have been those m...
- Sun May 29, 2016 4:28 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Lexicon Building
- Replies: 4308
- Views: 832665
Re: Lexicon Building
Yaas pi fovmasako wrote: next: touchscreen; touch panel
fingertip PURP glass
[jaːs˩ pi˩ ɸɔ̰ʔ˨˦]
Next up: abstraction, model
Thank you, but why have you gone to such lengths to hide your kind message?masako also wrote:I hope everyone is doing well and enjoying spring.
- Sun May 29, 2016 2:42 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Help your conlang fluency (2)
- Replies: 6633
- Views: 800303
Re: Help your conlang fluency
Ars Lande wrote: To meìt... saáras meìt
IND quiet / too.much quiet
Ya |
Q |
xujha |
think |
se |
C |
rba |
about |
se |
C |
kutudk |
ambush |
kafi |
1.2.3 |
sen? |
2 |
[ja˩ ʃu˥ɣə sɛ˩ rβ̞a˩ sɛ˩ kuduk˥˩ kaβi˩ sɛ̃˩]
You think we're about to be ambushed?
- Sat May 28, 2016 10:41 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Help your conlang fluency (2)
- Replies: 6633
- Views: 800303
Re: Help your conlang fluency
Ya saw xuu ta cuds ka tenpal? Ga te korov fa tbaj ge.
C IDEO: quiet 3 thread or board? PFV IDEO: absence 1 while DAT
[ja˩ saɸ˩ ʃuː˩ ta˩ çus˥˩ ka˩ tɛnbal˩ ŋa˩ tɛ˩ kɔɾɔ̰ʔ˨˦ ɸa˩ tpaː˥ ŋɛ˩/
Is it this thread or the board that is quiet? I have been gone a long time.
C IDEO: quiet 3 thread or board? PFV IDEO: absence 1 while DAT
[ja˩ saɸ˩ ʃuː˩ ta˩ çus˥˩ ka˩ tɛnbal˩ ŋa˩ tɛ˩ kɔɾɔ̰ʔ˨˦ ɸa˩ tpaː˥ ŋɛ˩/
Is it this thread or the board that is quiet? I have been gone a long time.
- Fri Jan 29, 2016 7:53 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Any advice for semantic diacronics?
- Replies: 3
- Views: 1782
Re: Any advice for semantic diacronics?
More generally, meanings tend to move from concrete to abstract, and from abstract to grammatical, all through means of the metaphorical extension brought up by Chengjiang. What you're going to want to look up is grammaticalization and semantic bleaching . Just an example, take the word `have'. In P...
- Mon Dec 07, 2015 1:32 am
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Game: Let's Reform English
- Replies: 339
- Views: 91115
Re: Game: Let's Reform English
1) The genitive -'s is replaced by of in all cases. These postpositions are stacked at the end, but never more than two: Thus 'The dog of the son of the king' is 'Dog son king of of'. 2) Transitive objects are brought before the verb, resulting in SOV order. However, intransitive subjects are now t...
- Mon Nov 09, 2015 11:16 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Sample Text Game
- Replies: 48
- Views: 17510
Re: Sample Text Game
Qp lctshdlctshkfqb woodchuck brqx, tp lrlrh3 brqx lctshdlctshkfqb woodchuck. q̚͡p̚ ʎ̥˔.t͡sʼ-θʎ̥˔.t͡sʼ-kf-qɸ ʍɨ̥t̚.t͡ʃɑ̥k̚ ʙ̥͡χ t̚͡p̚ ɭ̊˔.ɭ̊˔͡ʍ̹꜔ ʙ̥͡χ ʎ̥˔.t͡sʼ-θʎ̥˔.t͡sʼ-kf-qɸ ʍɨ̥t̚.t͡ʃɑ̥k̚ if chuck-IRR-3.ERG-3.ABS woodchuck wood then how.much wood chuck-IRR.3.ERG-3.ABS woodchuck How much wood would...
- Sun Sep 07, 2014 9:09 am
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Grammaticalization Quickie Thread
- Replies: 94
- Views: 40493
Re: Grammaticalization Quickie Thread
How can split-ergative systems arise from nominative-accusative alignment? In particular, I'm looking to create a system of syntactic ergativity, split along a tense distinction:
Non-past:
A verb P
S verb
Past:
A verb P
verb S
Non-past:
A verb P
S verb
Past:
A verb P
verb S
- Wed Sep 03, 2014 7:06 am
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Grammaticalization Quickie Thread
- Replies: 94
- Views: 40493
Re: Grammaticalization Quickie Thread
Arabic does have a word for 'finger', sorry if that wasn't clear (I was talking about the arm-hand distinction which doesn't exist). The thing is though I stand by what I said - you don't really NEED a word for finger if you can just say 'this part of my hand' or come up with a description or parap...
- Sun Aug 31, 2014 11:00 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Is This Grammatical To You?
- Replies: 52
- Views: 10880
Re: Is This Grammatical To You?
Statement and question b are totally wrong/nonsensical That's crazy! For me, sentence b is even slightly preferred to sentence a!! Although I'll admit it sounds better with a demonstrative: 'The flavor is beautiful of these cantaloupes'. And question b is totally fine. If I may ask, where are you g...
- Sun Aug 31, 2014 2:16 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Is This Grammatical To You?
- Replies: 52
- Views: 10880
Re: Is This Grammatical To You?
Hey guys, what do you think of these sentences? How else could these be said? a. The flavor of cantaloupes is beautiful. b. The flavor is beautiful of cantaloupes. (Sounds good to me, but a little funky to my dad.) a. Of what is the flavor beautiful? (Sounds archaic, I've never heard such a construc...
- Sun Aug 31, 2014 2:00 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Grammaticalization Quickie Thread
- Replies: 94
- Views: 40493
Re: Grammaticalization Quickie Thread
Otherwise though - maybe they just... don't talk about fingers? Surely they must have a way to... I can't think of a culture where such a distinction would never be important. In a language that has one word for "hand" and "arm", it still must be important to make a distinction between 'I hurt my e...
- Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:25 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Grammaticalization Quickie Thread
- Replies: 94
- Views: 40493
Re: Grammaticalization Quickie Thread
Sure you can use the term "case" for grammatical roles and it can do a fair job at it especially in describing core roles in languages that lack morphological case. My preference is just to reserve the term for the language specific morphological categories especially since very often single morpho...
- Thu Aug 21, 2014 10:08 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Grammaticalization Quickie Thread
- Replies: 94
- Views: 40493
Re: Grammaticalization Quickie Thread
I think what we're dealing with is that 'case' has two different meanings depending on context: it can refer to, to quote wikipedia, "a grammatical category whose value reflects the grammatical function performed by a noun or pronoun in a phrase, clause, or sentence". In this sense, 'in the house' i...
- Thu Aug 21, 2014 7:23 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Grammaticalization Quickie Thread
- Replies: 94
- Views: 40493
Re: Grammaticalization Quickie Thread
I have wondered this, myself. Case and adpositions seem to just be different strategies for marking the same syntactic information, with case-marking developing from cliticized adpositions via analogical extension onto adjectives and articles. Exactly! I'm guessing something rooted in the tradition...
- Thu Aug 21, 2014 6:52 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Grammaticalization Quickie Thread
- Replies: 94
- Views: 40493
Re: Grammaticalization Quickie Thread
For example, Japanese uses markers for what seems like a lot of things, yet I come across very few people talking about that language as having cases. vokzhen describes what I'm going for better than I can. I believe these are clitics: Syntactically they behave like separate words, but they are pho...