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by ol bofosh
Mon Jan 18, 2016 3:13 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Innovative Usage Thread
Replies: 2452
Views: 413601

Re: The Innovative Usage Thread

Viktor77 wrote:I just heard a BBC news reporter use a basically RP accent that was rhotic. I've never heard a rhotic RP accent and it was striking. She's based out of Lancaster. Has anyone heard such an accent before?
I've heard rhotic RP from a news reporter, but I suspected she was Irish (can't remember why).
by ol bofosh
Sat Jan 02, 2016 1:53 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 3108
Views: 640087

Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread

poinsettia [pʰɔɪ̯n.ˈsɛ.tʰɪi̯.ɜ] or [ˈpʰɔɪ̯n.sɛ.tʰɜ] (not sure) forsythia [fɔː.sɐɪ̯.θɪi̯.ɜ] dahlia [ˈdɛɪ̯.lɪi̯.ɜ] fuchsia [ˈfjʏʉ.ʃɛ] schefflera [ˈʃɛf.lə.ʋɹɛ] Last is a guess, first is a semi-guess (I know I've heard it, but not sure how I've heard it said). And don't forget the misleading cotoneaster...
by ol bofosh
Thu Dec 24, 2015 8:47 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 3108
Views: 640087

Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread

Ditto, foreign-speakers are a-okay. Kay?
by ol bofosh
Tue Dec 22, 2015 5:24 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 3108
Views: 640087

Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread

canyon [ˈkʰænʲ.jən] Enya [ˈɛnʲ.jɜ] Onion [ˈɐnʲ.jən] This is more or less how I pronounce Spanish <ñ>, since "onion" was the example I was given, and I've practiced it like that ever since. año would be more or less [ˈanʲ.jo], whilst anio (invented word) would be [ˈan.jo] (perhaps [ˈa.njo] if I were ...
by ol bofosh
Mon Nov 16, 2015 4:12 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 3108
Views: 640087

Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread

kʰən.ˈsɪ.dɜ
ˈwɔː.tʰɜ
ˈpʰɜʉst.mæːn~ˈpʰɜʉst.mən
ˈpʰɜʉst.mɛn~ˈpʰɜʉst.mən

The last two are usually reduced. The same thing I do with gentleman/gentlemen.
by ol bofosh
Mon Nov 09, 2015 4:56 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 3108
Views: 640087

Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread

*But even that is exaggerated: people do use 'pants' to mean 'trousers' in Yorkshire though for example. That's news to me as a Yorkshireman! I've only heard 'pants' to mean 'underwear' or 'rubbish' (as in 'that movie was pants') Maybe it's more Lancastrians? I knew a man from near Manchester that'...
by ol bofosh
Mon Oct 26, 2015 5:18 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 3108
Views: 640087

Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread

ˈhɐɪ̯.kʏʉ̯ ˈsæ.mə.ʋɹɐɪ̯ I've always said it: [ɔː.ʋɹə.ˈbɔː.ʋɹəs]. At a guess of the second one I'd say [ɞː.ʋɹə.ˈbɔː.ʋɹəs]. But looking at Wikipedia, it'd be more like [jʏː.ʋɹə.ˈbɒ.ʋɹəs] or [ɔː.ˈʋɹɒ.bə.ʋɹəs], though I prefer the second one. That first one sounbds like "You're a borras." (whatever a bo...
by ol bofosh
Tue Oct 06, 2015 2:12 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 3108
Views: 640087

Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread

ˈɔɪ̯.stɜ

kʰə.ˈtʰæɫ.pʰɜ (would be my guess)
by ol bofosh
Sun Oct 04, 2015 3:15 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Innovative Usage Thread
Replies: 2452
Views: 413601

Re: The Innovative Usage Thread

I say words like stalk, walk, talk and they have permanent l-vocalisation, so stalk and stork ar split. But they never recover the /l/.
by ol bofosh
Sun Sep 06, 2015 11:28 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 3108
Views: 640087

Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread

artifacts

arty facts
by ol bofosh
Fri Aug 28, 2015 3:20 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 3108
Views: 640087

Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread

['æːn.tʰɪ̈.̩kʰwɛ.ɹ̠ʷˠɪi̯] And because I wasn't sure where the stress went, here's the other example: [æn.'tʰɪk.wə.ʋɹ̠ʷˠɪɨ̯] Interesting how the last syllable changes. Something like [ˈæntɪˌkwɛɹ̠ˁi] for me. The /t/ isn't aspirated, and my /r/ is the American "bunched r." Took me a minute to figure ou...
by ol bofosh
Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:36 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 3108
Views: 640087

Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread

So... "antiquary"?
by ol bofosh
Tue Aug 25, 2015 3:36 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 3108
Views: 640087

Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread

Zaarin wrote:Anyone have a tendency to--in very informal settings--to slur "I don't know" into something like [a.ə̃̀ː.ʔʌ̃ʔ]? If ennui particularly sets in, the initial [a] can be dropped.
Yep. It's probably closer to [ɜ̃.n̩.nə̃ɘ̯̃].
by ol bofosh
Wed Aug 19, 2015 2:27 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 3108
Views: 640087

Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread

vile/vial - /vaɪ̯ə̯l/ [vɐə̯ɜ̯ɫ]

And a rather boring [ˈwɒ.ʃɪ̈ŋ.tən]
by ol bofosh
Sat Aug 08, 2015 2:37 am
Forum: None of the above
Topic: Linguistic Struggles Thread
Replies: 97
Views: 46845

Re: Linguistic Struggles Thread

That's what I do whenever I have to actually speak english <as opposed to write it>. I just pronounce it as if it were regular old spanish. so ai saund mor or les laik dis, clír vauels en evrizing. enits ríli a lot mor riláxing dan having to pur in de cógnitiv rísorses to du de jol pronunsiéichon z...
by ol bofosh
Thu Aug 06, 2015 6:12 pm
Forum: None of the above
Topic: Linguistic Struggles Thread
Replies: 97
Views: 46845

Re: Linguistic Struggles Thread

Had a few years of speaking Spanish now, but it's still a language I have to think about: vocab, grammar, pronounciation. If only I could drop one, then it would make life easier, like pronounciation: [ɒ.lɜ ǀ kʰɛ.ˈtʰæɫ]? [sɔɪ̯ ʏn æŋ.ˈglɒ.fə.nɜʉ̯ tʰɛʉ.ˈtʰæɫ] It's [tʰɛʉ̯.tˡɫ̩.ˈmɛn.tʰɛɪ̯] wrong, but it...
by ol bofosh
Wed Jul 29, 2015 3:29 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 3108
Views: 640087

Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread

ˈdɛɪ̯.lɪɨ̯
gɛɪ̯.lɪɨ̯
gʷʋɹʷˠɛɪ̯.lɪɨ̯
bɛɪ̯.lɪɨ̯
ɪz.ˈʋɹʷˠɛɪ̯.lɪɨ̯
hɪ̈.mə.ˈlɛɪ̯̈ə̯
ə.ˈʋɹʷˠʏʉ̯.gə.lɜ
ˈkʰjʏʉ̯.mɪ̈n
kʰn̩.ˈsɞːv
ˈzɐɪ̯.ɒn
ˈsɐɪ̯.æːn
by ol bofosh
Thu Jul 23, 2015 6:16 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 3108
Views: 640087

Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread

SE England and I have [ˈkʰɐɫ.tʃɜ lɐv ˈwʏ.mən]
by ol bofosh
Sun Jul 19, 2015 3:51 am
Forum: None of the above
Topic: Linguistic Quackery Thread, take 2
Replies: 812
Views: 203601

Re: Linguistic Quackery Thread, take 2

Apparently Irish beatha and Latin vita can be read an pronounced the same. XD
by ol bofosh
Sun Jul 05, 2015 1:38 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Predict the future of your dialect
Replies: 23
Views: 7211

Re: Predict the future of your dialect

(Estuary English, SE England) I reckon l-vocalisatn will go permanent and the vowels will all go haywire (I'm on tablet, so can't write a list righ now. Full , fool and fall may merge (they sort of have already). Intrusive-r will become proper, soaring and sawing will be both percieved as rhotic or....
by ol bofosh
Fri Jul 03, 2015 3:29 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Post your conlang's phonology
Replies: 2278
Views: 499792

Re: Post your conlang's phonology

This is a reform for Gnoughish. Consonants /m mː n nː/ <m mm n nn> /p pː b bː t tː d dː k kː g gː/ <p pp b bb t tt d dd k kk g gg> /f fː θ s sː ʃ x h/ <f ff th s ss sh gh h> /t͡s tt͡s t͡ʃ tt͡ʃ/ <z zz ch tch> /w ʍ ɹ j/ <w wh wr~rr y> /r/ <r> /l lː/ <l ll> Vowels /i u/ <i u> /e eː o oː/ <e ee o oo> /ə...
by ol bofosh
Mon Jun 08, 2015 4:07 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 3108
Views: 640087

Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread

flower vs. flour
[flæʊ̯ɜ̯]
[flæɞ̯ɜ̯]
Respectively, in careful speech. In general I probably say both [flæɞ̯ɜ̯], more or less.

<lose> [lʏːʉ̯z]
<loose> [lʏʉ̯s]
<loser> [ˈlʏːʉ̯.zɜ]
<looser> [lʏʉ̯.sɜ]
<ate> [ɛʔ͡t̚] (since living with my girfriend who says [ejt] I've been slipping to [ɛɪ̯ʔ͡t̚])
by ol bofosh
Thu Jun 04, 2015 1:53 am
Forum: None of the above
Topic: Linguistic Struggles Thread
Replies: 97
Views: 46845

Re: Linguistic Struggles Thread

I suspect so too, I don't remember that extra vowel. I was convinced the word was one syllable.
by ol bofosh
Wed Jun 03, 2015 5:31 am
Forum: None of the above
Topic: Linguistic Struggles Thread
Replies: 97
Views: 46845

Re: Linguistic Struggles Thread

If you can't do consonant clusters don't try to learn Dutch. For example a bus stop in my town is named 'Oegstgeest-Abtspoelweg' [uχstˈχeɪst ˈɑptspulwɛχ] That doesn't seem so hard, if you can separate it wth a syllable. [pts.p] would be the easiest for me. The Polish phrase I was told began with ar...
by ol bofosh
Mon Jun 01, 2015 7:16 am
Forum: None of the above
Topic: Linguistic Struggles Thread
Replies: 97
Views: 46845

Re: Linguistic Struggles Thread

I wanted to say Happy Birthday to my Polish friend in his own language. Boy, did I ruin that. Mega consonant cluster! Pfshksts... or something, just to begin with. And I was still told I was missing /s/ somewhere. I'm glad I don't have to learn it... yet. :o