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- Sat Oct 04, 2014 8:27 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Indo-Iranian Language Research
- Replies: 18
- Views: 5658
Re: Indo-Iranian Language Research
CatDoom, see https://archive.org/details/CompendiumL ... icarum1989 at p. 294 onwards.
- Sun Sep 28, 2014 5:41 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
- Replies: 2225
- Views: 529655
Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
I find it funny that people hate the use of grammatically plural "they" for logically singular situations and who then get further bent out of shape when people start rationalizing the grammatically plural form by using logically singular formants such as "themself." Diachronic number does not comma...
- Sat Sep 27, 2014 8:03 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Indo-Iranian Language Research
- Replies: 18
- Views: 5658
Re: Indo-Iranian Language Research
Khotanese Pronouns . 1st Sing. N : /azu/ <aysu> <-- Beekes: <*h₁eǵ(oH/Hom) >; Sihler: <*eǵoH >; SKT <aham>; Thmsq. <azu> A : /ma, muho/ <ma, muho> <-- Beekes: <?*h₁mé>; Sihler: <?*h₁mé>; Thmsq. <mvo> (/ma/ may have been enclitic?) GD : /mamə/ <mamə> <-- Beekes: <*h₁méne>; Sihler: <*mé-me> IA : /ma ...
- Sat Sep 27, 2014 9:14 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Indo-Iranian Language Research
- Replies: 18
- Views: 5658
Re: Indo-Iranian Language Research
Khotanese (and Tumshuqese) . Khotanese Phonology (with references to Brahmic Orthography): Consonants (not sure whether this represents a later or earlier state) /pʰ, tʰ, tsʰ, ʈʰ, ʈʂʰ, tɕʰ, kʰ/ <pʰ, tʰ, ts, ʈʰ, kʂ, tɕʰ, kʰ> /p, t, ts, ʈ, tɕ [also c?], k, ʔ/ <p, tt, tc, ʈ, tɕ [ky], k, unknown> /b, d...
- Mon Sep 15, 2014 2:48 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Indo-Iranian Language Research
- Replies: 18
- Views: 5658
Re: Indo-Iranian Language Research
Sogdian Pronouns and Demonstratives . Pronouns . 1st Singular Direct : <(ə)zu> Oblique : <mana> Enclitic : <mi:, -m> 1st Plural Direct : <ma:x> Oblique : < ma:x > Enclitic : <man> 2d Singular Direct : <taɣu> Oblique : <tawa> Enclitic : <fi:, -f> 2d Plural Direct : <(ə)šma:x> Oblique : <(ə)šma:x> En...
- Mon Sep 15, 2014 12:43 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Indo-Iranian Language Research
- Replies: 18
- Views: 5658
Re: Indo-Iranian Language Research
Bactrian Pronouns and Demonstratives . Transcriptions are very rough and based on the source below, with the addition of my own idea that /Cʰ/ is still possible. Personal Pronouns : 1st Sing Direct : <αζο> /?a{-z-, -ʣ- (?), -ž- (?)}o/ <-- Oblique : <μανο> /?mano/ <-- Enclitic : <-μο, -μαγο with PRE...
- Mon Sep 15, 2014 11:02 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Indo-Iranian Language Research
- Replies: 18
- Views: 5658
Re: Indo-Iranian Language Research
Old-Persian~Avestan Pronouns . Near-Deictic (proximal to first) . This series appears to follow the Sanskrit <idam> paradigm. Dem. pron: <*ima-, a-> (see alternate proximal below) Singular . N : <M.: *ai̯am; N.: *im-at; F.: *ii̯am> <-- Beekes: <*>; SKT: <M: ayam; N: idam; F: iyam> A : <M.: *im-am; ...
- Sun Sep 14, 2014 3:23 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Indo-Iranian Language Research
- Replies: 18
- Views: 5658
Re: Indo-Iranian Language Research
Old-Persian~Avestan Pronouns . 1st Sing . V : <?> <-- Beekes: <?> ; Sihler: <?> N : <aj́am> <-- Beekes: <*h₁eǵ(oH/Hom)> ; Sihler: <*eǵoH>; SKT: <aham> A : <ma:m> <-- Beekes: <*h₁mé>; Sihler: <*m-mé (> *mé)>; SKT: <ma:m> A Enclitic : ma: <-- Beekes: <*h₁me>; Sihler: <*me> SKT: <ma:> G : <ma-na> <-- ...
- Thu Sep 11, 2014 8:43 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Idiolectal pronunciations
- Replies: 50
- Views: 11253
Re: Idiolectal pronunciations
And different from everyone I know, I say /ʊ/ instead of /u/ in the cases of /hʊvz/ "hooves", /ɻʊf/ "roof", and /ɻʊt/ "root". That's not to odd; I think it's the Philly accent. I sporadically have that change, i.e. /hʊvz/ , but /ɻut/ and /ɻuf/. At least the latter is a hyper-correction, but I wonde...
- Mon Sep 08, 2014 5:04 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Indo-Iranian Language Research
- Replies: 18
- Views: 5658
Re: Dardic Languages
I wanted to kick this thread back in gear with a topic related to the Dardic (and Nuristani languages). I feel that this branch of IE and this geographic region has a decent amount of info available but not in a very centralized format. The following is a discussion of the phonology of several middl...
- Mon Sep 08, 2014 12:51 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Brahmic Scripts
- Replies: 93
- Views: 32981
Re: Brahmic Scripts
Hey Clawgrip, do you remember what thread this was split off of? I am trying to find some links I left in the original.
EDIT: NM, I found it.
EDIT: NM, I found it.
- Mon Sep 08, 2014 11:03 am
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: giant swamps
- Replies: 13
- Views: 4276
Re: giant swamps
If you want to make your swamp 100% better, I give you: http://www.bbc.com/travel/slideshow/201 ... id-rainbow
- Mon Sep 08, 2014 6:51 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Audio example of an epiglottal trill?
- Replies: 5
- Views: 2019
Re: Audio example of an epiglottal trill?
I linked something about the Haida one here a year or two ago . . . cannot find it now.
- Sat Sep 06, 2014 4:01 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: vowels make preceding consonants more audible?
- Replies: 4
- Views: 2515
Re: vowels make preceding consonants more audible?
A word like 'ss' can't be even shouted so I wouldn't allow such a thing in my phonotactics. Perhaps not by you as a non-native speaker. Don't be too quick. The link you gave shows that Miyako can be sung (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Rjl0XOfhPM) another even shows an odd country music song. Is ...
- Fri Sep 05, 2014 6:34 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: giant swamps
- Replies: 13
- Views: 4276
Re: giant swamps
I think that at some point in time much of North America between the Rockies and Appalachian mountains was a shallow inland sea/swamp. Maybe there were some pretty intense mangroves . . . ?
EDIT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Interior_Seaway
EDIT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Interior_Seaway
- Fri Sep 05, 2014 6:03 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
- Replies: 3108
- Views: 766072
Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
<rather> [ɻɑðɚ] or perhaps better transcribed as [ɻɑðɻ̩]. Not sure if those are actually different or not. A lot of my /ɻ/s are also strongly labialized, as in <red>, but I feel like it is not in the case of <rather>. I cannot figure out what the triggering condition is, perhaps labialized if follow...
- Fri Sep 05, 2014 5:44 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Is This Grammatical To You?
- Replies: 52
- Views: 11744
Re: Is This Grammatical To You?
... what? Haha. That needs an example.Astraios wrote:I was talking to someone online and realised I've never heard an American say "[place] way" as a reply to "where do you live" or "where are you from". Does it occur?
- Tue Sep 02, 2014 5:59 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Allophones
- Replies: 7
- Views: 2280
Re: Allophones
I can think of an easy, if perhaps ugly way. Simply use an entry for a phoneme, say /t/. Then, following that entry list the allophones and in what context they appear. Perhaps organized as allophones which are nasal, stop, fricative, affricative, etc.
- Mon Sep 01, 2014 9:26 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Allophones
- Replies: 7
- Views: 2280
Allophones
Is there a list or resource of common allophones?
If not, it might be a useful project for board members to get together and make one for the L&L museum.
If not, it might be a useful project for board members to get together and make one for the L&L museum.
- Sat Aug 30, 2014 10:04 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
- Replies: 2225
- Views: 529655
Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
Oh nice! Thanks so much.
- Fri Aug 29, 2014 8:08 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
- Replies: 2225
- Views: 529655
Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
PIE tech question, did pie have common terms for grapes/wine, grains/beer, honey/mead? And were the precoursers/products distinct if PIE had common terms?
- Sun Aug 24, 2014 8:47 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Body-part typology
- Replies: 4
- Views: 1707
Re: Body-part typology
I found a good survey in Language Sciences 28 (2006) -- its the special issue . . . I think the issue number was 2-3. It covers a few universals and about 8 languages, half of which are PNG languages.
- Sat Aug 23, 2014 5:24 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
- Replies: 3108
- Views: 766072
Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
"Recognize" without /g/ strikes me as an AAVE thing, but there are a lot of things that strike me as AAVE things that are probably just not as conservative as what I'd say. (Do white people say "put it up" for "put it away"?) I might say [ɹæ̃ː], but not when I'm paying attention -- it's [ɹæ̃ːɞ̯nd] ...
- Thu Aug 21, 2014 1:54 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: European languages before Indo-European
- Replies: 812
- Views: 230603
Re: European languages before Indo-European
Anyone notice a similarity between the Etruscan -sa or -isa, "son of" patronymic suggested here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etruscan_language#History_of_Etruscan_literacy and the Eteo-Cypriot <a-ri-si-to-no- se a-ra-to-wa-na-ka-so-ko-o- se > "to Ariston (son of) Aristonax" suggested here http://en...
- Thu Aug 21, 2014 10:59 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Body-part typology
- Replies: 4
- Views: 1707
Body-part typology
I've notice that WALS has two chapters on body-part lexical typology: hand v. arm and hand v. finger. Does anyone know of a more comprehensive -- and hopefully comparative -- source for body-part term organization schemes? EDIT: also of value, comparative sources on languages using body-part countin...