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by 2+3 clusivity
Sun Sep 28, 2014 5:41 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
Replies: 2225
Views: 529655

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread

I find it funny that people hate the use of grammatically plural "they" for logically singular situations and who then get further bent out of shape when people start rationalizing the grammatically plural form by using logically singular formants such as "themself." Diachronic number does not comma...
by 2+3 clusivity
Sat Sep 27, 2014 8:03 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Indo-Iranian Language Research
Replies: 18
Views: 5658

Re: Indo-Iranian Language Research

Khotanese Pronouns . 1st Sing. N : /azu/ <aysu> <-- Beekes: <*h₁eǵ(oH/Hom) >; Sihler: <*eǵoH >; SKT <aham>; Thmsq. <azu> A : /ma, muho/ <ma, muho> <-- Beekes: <?*h₁mé>; Sihler: <?*h₁mé>; Thmsq. <mvo> (/ma/ may have been enclitic?) GD : /mamə/ <mamə> <-- Beekes: <*h₁méne>; Sihler: <*mé-me> IA : /ma ...
by 2+3 clusivity
Sat Sep 27, 2014 9:14 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Indo-Iranian Language Research
Replies: 18
Views: 5658

Re: Indo-Iranian Language Research

Khotanese (and Tumshuqese) . Khotanese Phonology (with references to Brahmic Orthography): Consonants (not sure whether this represents a later or earlier state) /pʰ, tʰ, tsʰ, ʈʰ, ʈʂʰ, tɕʰ, kʰ/ <pʰ, tʰ, ts, ʈʰ, kʂ, tɕʰ, kʰ> /p, t, ts, ʈ, tɕ [also c?], k, ʔ/ <p, tt, tc, ʈ, tɕ [ky], k, unknown> /b, d...
by 2+3 clusivity
Mon Sep 15, 2014 2:48 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Indo-Iranian Language Research
Replies: 18
Views: 5658

Re: Indo-Iranian Language Research

Sogdian Pronouns and Demonstratives . Pronouns . 1st Singular Direct : <(ə)zu> Oblique : <mana> Enclitic : <mi:, -m> 1st Plural Direct : <ma:x> Oblique : < ma:x > Enclitic : <man> 2d Singular Direct : <taɣu> Oblique : <tawa> Enclitic : <fi:, -f> 2d Plural Direct : <(ə)šma:x> Oblique : <(ə)šma:x> En...
by 2+3 clusivity
Mon Sep 15, 2014 12:43 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Indo-Iranian Language Research
Replies: 18
Views: 5658

Re: Indo-Iranian Language Research

Bactrian Pronouns and Demonstratives . Transcriptions are very rough and based on the source below, with the addition of my own idea that /Cʰ/ is still possible. Personal Pronouns : 1st Sing Direct : <αζο> /?a{-z-, -ʣ- (?), -ž- (?)}o/ <-- Oblique : <μανο> /?mano/ <-- Enclitic : <-μο, -μαγο with PRE...
by 2+3 clusivity
Mon Sep 15, 2014 11:02 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Indo-Iranian Language Research
Replies: 18
Views: 5658

Re: Indo-Iranian Language Research

Old-Persian~Avestan Pronouns . Near-Deictic (proximal to first) . This series appears to follow the Sanskrit <idam> paradigm. Dem. pron: <*ima-, a-> (see alternate proximal below) Singular . N : <M.: *ai̯am; N.: *im-at; F.: *ii̯am> <-- Beekes: <*>; SKT: <M: ayam; N: idam; F: iyam> A : <M.: *im-am; ...
by 2+3 clusivity
Sun Sep 14, 2014 3:23 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Indo-Iranian Language Research
Replies: 18
Views: 5658

Re: Indo-Iranian Language Research

Old-Persian~Avestan Pronouns . 1st Sing . V : <?> <-- Beekes: <?> ; Sihler: <?> N : <aj́am> <-- Beekes: <*h₁eǵ(oH/Hom)> ; Sihler: <*eǵoH>; SKT: <aham> A : <ma:m> <-- Beekes: <*h₁mé>; Sihler: <*m-mé (> *mé)>; SKT: <ma:m> A Enclitic : ma: <-- Beekes: <*h₁me>; Sihler: <*me> SKT: <ma:> G : <ma-na> <-- ...
by 2+3 clusivity
Thu Sep 11, 2014 8:43 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Idiolectal pronunciations
Replies: 50
Views: 11253

Re: Idiolectal pronunciations

And different from everyone I know, I say /ʊ/ instead of /u/ in the cases of /hʊvz/ "hooves", /ɻʊf/ "roof", and /ɻʊt/ "root". That's not to odd; I think it's the Philly accent. I sporadically have that change, i.e. /hʊvz/ , but /ɻut/ and /ɻuf/. At least the latter is a hyper-correction, but I wonde...
by 2+3 clusivity
Mon Sep 08, 2014 5:04 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Indo-Iranian Language Research
Replies: 18
Views: 5658

Re: Dardic Languages

I wanted to kick this thread back in gear with a topic related to the Dardic (and Nuristani languages). I feel that this branch of IE and this geographic region has a decent amount of info available but not in a very centralized format. The following is a discussion of the phonology of several middl...
by 2+3 clusivity
Mon Sep 08, 2014 12:51 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Brahmic Scripts
Replies: 93
Views: 32981

Re: Brahmic Scripts

Hey Clawgrip, do you remember what thread this was split off of? I am trying to find some links I left in the original.

EDIT: NM, I found it.
by 2+3 clusivity
Mon Sep 08, 2014 11:03 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: giant swamps
Replies: 13
Views: 4276

Re: giant swamps

If you want to make your swamp 100% better, I give you: http://www.bbc.com/travel/slideshow/201 ... id-rainbow
by 2+3 clusivity
Mon Sep 08, 2014 6:51 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Audio example of an epiglottal trill?
Replies: 5
Views: 2019

Re: Audio example of an epiglottal trill?

I linked something about the Haida one here a year or two ago . . . cannot find it now.
by 2+3 clusivity
Sat Sep 06, 2014 4:01 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: vowels make preceding consonants more audible?
Replies: 4
Views: 2515

Re: vowels make preceding consonants more audible?

A word like 'ss' can't be even shouted so I wouldn't allow such a thing in my phonotactics. Perhaps not by you as a non-native speaker. Don't be too quick. The link you gave shows that Miyako can be sung (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Rjl0XOfhPM) another even shows an odd country music song. Is ...
by 2+3 clusivity
Fri Sep 05, 2014 6:34 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: giant swamps
Replies: 13
Views: 4276

Re: giant swamps

I think that at some point in time much of North America between the Rockies and Appalachian mountains was a shallow inland sea/swamp. Maybe there were some pretty intense mangroves . . . ?

EDIT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Interior_Seaway
by 2+3 clusivity
Fri Sep 05, 2014 6:03 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 3108
Views: 766072

Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread

<rather> [ɻɑðɚ] or perhaps better transcribed as [ɻɑðɻ̩]. Not sure if those are actually different or not. A lot of my /ɻ/s are also strongly labialized, as in <red>, but I feel like it is not in the case of <rather>. I cannot figure out what the triggering condition is, perhaps labialized if follow...
by 2+3 clusivity
Fri Sep 05, 2014 5:44 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Is This Grammatical To You?
Replies: 52
Views: 11744

Re: Is This Grammatical To You?

Astraios wrote:I was talking to someone online and realised I've never heard an American say "[place] way" as a reply to "where do you live" or "where are you from". Does it occur?
... what? Haha. That needs an example.
by 2+3 clusivity
Tue Sep 02, 2014 5:59 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Allophones
Replies: 7
Views: 2280

Re: Allophones

I can think of an easy, if perhaps ugly way. Simply use an entry for a phoneme, say /t/. Then, following that entry list the allophones and in what context they appear. Perhaps organized as allophones which are nasal, stop, fricative, affricative, etc.
by 2+3 clusivity
Mon Sep 01, 2014 9:26 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Allophones
Replies: 7
Views: 2280

Allophones

Is there a list or resource of common allophones?

If not, it might be a useful project for board members to get together and make one for the L&L museum.
by 2+3 clusivity
Sat Aug 30, 2014 10:04 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
Replies: 2225
Views: 529655

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread

Oh nice! Thanks so much.
by 2+3 clusivity
Fri Aug 29, 2014 8:08 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
Replies: 2225
Views: 529655

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread

PIE tech question, did pie have common terms for grapes/wine, grains/beer, honey/mead? And were the precoursers/products distinct if PIE had common terms?
by 2+3 clusivity
Sun Aug 24, 2014 8:47 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Body-part typology
Replies: 4
Views: 1707

Re: Body-part typology

I found a good survey in Language Sciences 28 (2006) -- its the special issue . . . I think the issue number was 2-3. It covers a few universals and about 8 languages, half of which are PNG languages.
by 2+3 clusivity
Sat Aug 23, 2014 5:24 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 3108
Views: 766072

Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread

"Recognize" without /g/ strikes me as an AAVE thing, but there are a lot of things that strike me as AAVE things that are probably just not as conservative as what I'd say. (Do white people say "put it up" for "put it away"?) I might say [ɹæ̃ː], but not when I'm paying attention -- it's [ɹæ̃ːɞ̯nd] ...
by 2+3 clusivity
Thu Aug 21, 2014 1:54 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: European languages before Indo-European
Replies: 812
Views: 230603

Re: European languages before Indo-European

Anyone notice a similarity between the Etruscan -sa or -isa, "son of" patronymic suggested here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etruscan_language#History_of_Etruscan_literacy and the Eteo-Cypriot <a-ri-si-to-no- se a-ra-to-wa-na-ka-so-ko-o- se > "to Ariston (son of) Aristonax" suggested here http://en...
by 2+3 clusivity
Thu Aug 21, 2014 10:59 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Body-part typology
Replies: 4
Views: 1707

Body-part typology

I've notice that WALS has two chapters on body-part lexical typology: hand v. arm and hand v. finger. Does anyone know of a more comprehensive -- and hopefully comparative -- source for body-part term organization schemes? EDIT: also of value, comparative sources on languages using body-part countin...