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by 2+3 clusivity
Mon Aug 18, 2014 5:14 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Is This Grammatical To You?
Replies: 52
Views: 10819

Re: Is This Grammatical To You?

As the posters above noted, this is probably highly variable in acceptability. These work for me: 1. ?"with cracks splitting open at seemingly complete random." 2. *"with cracks splitting open at seemingly complete random ly ." 3. ?"with cracks splitting open at seemingly complete ly random." 4. *"w...
by 2+3 clusivity
Mon Aug 18, 2014 12:13 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: 2+3's Project
Replies: 24
Views: 12473

Re: 2+3's Project

I’ve been wrangling with TEST’s movement verbs for a bit and have gotten bogged down. I am trying to work TEST as a verb framed language with regard to at least verbs of movement. As a speaker of English, this has taken some thought and I still feel that I am falling back into a satellite framed sys...
by 2+3 clusivity
Sun Aug 17, 2014 11:07 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: 'Superdialects'
Replies: 26
Views: 4825

Re: 'Superdialects'

It's interesting, but I have a few reservations: * Using Twitter will strongly overreport the urban and wealthy.* Agreed. The authors note: "On average, Twitter users are young, urban and more likely to be technologically savvy thus providing [sic] more modern perspective on the use of language." I...
by 2+3 clusivity
Sat Aug 16, 2014 10:20 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: "big" versus "large"
Replies: 24
Views: 6494

Re: "big" versus "large"

You've got a couple of issues going on here: My conlang is a loglang and polysemy is strictly forbidden. If that is one of your design criteria, your not going to want to do . . . something like this: big – 1. having large size 2. old 3. important large – 1. synonymous to "high" in "high speed" and ...
by 2+3 clusivity
Sat Aug 16, 2014 7:30 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: 'Superdialects'
Replies: 26
Views: 4825

Re: 'Superdialects'

Here's the link to the actual research: http://arxiv.org/pdf/1407.7094v1.pdf
by 2+3 clusivity
Fri Aug 15, 2014 8:23 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Examples of truly unique conlang features?
Replies: 57
Views: 15882

Re: Examples of truly unique conlang features?

Shit demon speech? As in, large swathes of the conlang.
by 2+3 clusivity
Fri Aug 15, 2014 8:16 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Seeking help in building my conlang
Replies: 36
Views: 8860

Re: Seeking help in building my conlang

I don't get the aversion to /ʑˤ/. Having one or two out-of-place sounds if fine. If you can come up with a reasonable source, I see no issue, and sometimes even then. (American) English has a sound that's broadly [ɻˤ ~ ɰˤ] When I originally saw your phonology, I thought you were trying to represent...
by 2+3 clusivity
Mon Aug 11, 2014 1:45 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Deixis Question
Replies: 1
Views: 888

Deixis Question

Does anyone know of a language that distinguishes deixis (here v. there) in interrogatives? For example, what.here v. what.there or who.here v. who.there.
by 2+3 clusivity
Sat Aug 09, 2014 7:02 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: 2+3's Project
Replies: 24
Views: 12473

Re: 2+3's Project

I am at it again. Recently I have been tackling my conlanging nightmare, verbs. In an attempt not to re-lex English, I have been using Levin's English Verb Classes and Alternations to isolate certain classes and patterns of verbs. With the understanding that her book, of course, covers classes of En...
by 2+3 clusivity
Wed Jul 30, 2014 3:58 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Re: Zebia
Replies: 3
Views: 1686

Re: Zebia

I saw on FrathWiki that some folks on the ZBB had started a project called Zebia -- a start at an Akana-type project.

Is anyone still here who worked on that? Is any work actively being done?
by 2+3 clusivity
Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:27 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Four questions about the Agentivity Hierarchy
Replies: 11
Views: 4166

Re: Four questions about the Agentivity Hierarchy

Some languages distinguish inclusive and exclusive second person pronouns Source or example? I know there are a few claimed to have such a distinction, but most if not all have been refuted in articles such as J. Horst's which is on the Clusivity page of wikipedia. Edgar A. Gregerson says the Moru-...
by 2+3 clusivity
Wed Jul 09, 2014 8:37 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Number systems
Replies: 10
Views: 2822

Re: Number systems

My favourite is the system found in Skou itself. * * * * * * 3 héngtong "3" * * * 5 nápang "5" 6 nápánghì "5+n" 7 nápang héngtong "5+3" * * * . . . and against the rules of addition 7 is formed as "5+3". The reason behind this seems to be that the Skou numeral 5 is cognate to the numeral 4 in its r...
by 2+3 clusivity
Sat Jul 05, 2014 6:35 pm
Forum: None of the above
Topic: Zompist books feedback
Replies: 73
Views: 37129

Re: Zompist books feedback

the real mark of an ill-educated writer is the belief that singular "they" is something that is "starting" to be used... If you and a companion look in the distance and see a single person of indeterminate gender doing some action, do you ask your companion: A) What are they doing? B) What is he/sh...
by 2+3 clusivity
Sat Jul 05, 2014 5:21 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Brahmic Scripts
Replies: 93
Views: 30824

Re: Turkestan Brahmi

ERMMGGERRDDdddd!!!!! Thanks for the update.

For Khotanese, have you run across a grammar while finding symbols?
by 2+3 clusivity
Sat Jul 05, 2014 3:31 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: 2+3's Project
Replies: 24
Views: 12473

Re: 2+3's Project

Morphosyntactic Alignment . Case Marking . TEST's case marking is split based upon Aspect. Case marking is Nominative-accusative if the verb is in a non-perfective aspect. Otherwise, generally, case marking operates on ergative-absolutive basis. Nominative and absolutive are unmarked; accusative is...
by 2+3 clusivity
Sat Jul 05, 2014 9:35 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Question re: anti-passive voice
Replies: 9
Views: 2770

Re: Question re: anti-passive voice

Ah! Yes. That is good. Thanks Sal.

Edit: the Sundic-type is pretty fascinating I must note.
by 2+3 clusivity
Fri Jul 04, 2014 4:36 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Question re: anti-passive voice
Replies: 9
Views: 2770

Re: Question re: anti-passive voice

Hunh! Excellent food for thought. Thanks everyone. [Western austronesian languages are traditionally split functionally between Phillipine and Indonesian types - P-type systems tend to have multiple voices, whereas I-type languages have only the two symmetrical voices, but also use applicatives. App...
by 2+3 clusivity
Fri Jul 04, 2014 9:52 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: TLFKAT: phonology for a polysynthetic conlang
Replies: 6
Views: 3629

Re: TLFKAT: phonology for a polysynthetic conlang

Agreed. Your presentation of the phonology is very well thought and set out. I will look forward to seeing the grammar.
by 2+3 clusivity
Thu Jul 03, 2014 5:07 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Question re: anti-passive voice
Replies: 9
Views: 2770

Question re: anti-passive voice

As I understand it, anti-passive voice raises A to S and either (1) demotes O/P to an oblique case; (2) omits the erstwhile O/P; or (3) suppresses the existence of an O/P. Regarding situation two and the basic assumption of A -> S, do all languages with an anti-passive demote O/P to an non-core obli...
by 2+3 clusivity
Sat Jun 28, 2014 7:25 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Romanization challenge thread
Replies: 3842
Views: 885668

Re: Romanization challenge thread

/p t ts tsʷ tɕ tɕʷ k kʷ/ <p t c cu ch chu k ku> /b d g gʷ ɢ/ b d g gu q /f v ɬ ɬʷ s z ɕ ʑ ɕʷ ʑʷ χʷ h/ f v fh fhu s z sh zh shu zhu xu x /m n ɲ l r w j ɥ/ m n nh l r u y yh /i a u/ i a o /ɬʷamga bil aɕʷfatsin tsatsapɬiɬ ukkatɕʷ kawadir ɢiʑʷangaɬɬab χʷituha ɥandas ɲaɢapɕi iɕʷɕʷusdam vajzutsʷa./ <fhuam...
by 2+3 clusivity
Sat Jun 28, 2014 3:19 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Eti, a "birdlang"
Replies: 9
Views: 3743

Re: Eti, a "birdlang"

I know you have different user accounts, but are you the guy who did Shit Demon Speech? Your names have a similar structure and you both have a predilection for interesting non-human languages.
by 2+3 clusivity
Sat Jun 28, 2014 3:09 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: 2+3's Project
Replies: 24
Views: 12473

Re: 2+3's Project

Dyadic Kin and Relationship Terms, Etc. . As discussed above, TEST has both possessive and comitative classifiers, which classify various humans. These are related to an extensive set of dyadic (and triadic) terms. Dyadic Relations Dyadic terms cover not only relatives but also non-kin humans. Exam...
by 2+3 clusivity
Sat Jun 21, 2014 8:14 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: How to design a non-European phonology
Replies: 622
Views: 175012

Re: How to design a non-European phonology

Dē Graut Bʉr wrote:There are 55 "normal" questions and nine special ones which give five marks each, so that adds up to hundred. So your phonology is 52% SAE.
KathAveara wrote:Also, iirc 75+ is fairly European, and 90+ is very European. Less than 70 is un-European.
Oh okay, thanks!
by 2+3 clusivity
Sat Jun 21, 2014 9:39 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: How to design a non-European phonology
Replies: 622
Views: 175012

Re: How to design a non-European phonology

Not sure how the percentage system works. m(b)ʙ m:(b)ʙ n(d)r n:(d)r ɳ(ɖ)ɽ ʙ ʙ: r r: ɽ m m: n n: ɲ h h h̃ h̃: ʋ ʋ: l j mb m:b nd n:d ɳɖ p p: t t: ʈ k d i: ĩ: ʉ: ʉ̃: u: ũ: ɪ ə ʊ e: ẽ: o: õ: ɛ: a: ã: ɔ: 1. Absence of any phonemic POA for stops further back than velar [half mark for only one stop-POA be...
by 2+3 clusivity
Wed Jun 18, 2014 11:29 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: 2+3's Project
Replies: 24
Views: 12473

Re: 2+3's Project

You probably know this, and it needn't mean anything for your conlang, but real-world possessive classifiers (certainly in Austronesian, and iirc elsewhere also) don't tend to classify things by their kind, but by the nature of the relation. Cool, thanks for taking notice. I saw you used possessive...