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Aszev

Could you call Elfdalian a separate language? You could, and nowadays a lot of people do. But , it's very important not to stare oneself blind at the fact that there is this batshit conservative language in the middle of nowhere in Scandinavia. I will not call it a language in the context of my map...

Aszev

Actually a split between Dalecarlian and Swedish here wouldn't be too unreasonable. Alternatively one could possibly also enlarge it, and include the East Swedish varieties as well. Elfdalian isn't a Swedish dialect. Where did I say it was? I don't think I've used the word "dialect" in this thread ...

Aszev

Jutlandic is called jutish. And I am uncertain whether the Danish varieties don't need more subdialects. North jutish and south jutish are pretty different. And mid jutish is pretty close to insular danish. Within insular danish there is a big split between Zealandic and the rest of the islands. (z...

Aszev

- Swedish
-- Dalecarlian Proper
--- Upper Dalecarlian
---- Elfdalian

Actually a split between Dalecarlian and Swedish here wouldn't be too unreasonable. Alternatively one could possibly also enlarge it, and include the East Swedish varieties as well.

Aszev

Qwynegold wrote:
rickardspaghetti wrote:"Rickard looks through the map once again."

What!? There are Swedish speakers in Ukraine?
It was founded in like the 18th century by people from the Swedish army when they were conquering stuff.

It was founded by Swedes who were deported from Estonia by Catherine the Great.

Aszev

A decent amount is personal knowledge, and then i complement with several books and some websites. On Danish and Norwegian I have to rely a bit more on a narrow amount of sources because I unfortunately don't have a lot of literature about their dialects (I'm more well-supplied on the Swedish ones)....

Aszev

rickardspaghetti wrote:What? I don't speak Swedish anymore!?

I suggest you read the text. Besides, you probably speak Standard Book Swedish anyway, which is not covered on this map.

rickardspaghetti wrote:"Rickard looks through the map once again."

What!? There are Swedish speakers in Ukraine?

I suggest you read the text.

Aszev

Nice map! I think it's pretty accurate. One comment: the classification of the languages/dialects spoken around Älvdalen, Sweden (in the northeastern corner of the area you painted dark green) is heavily disputed. Some (Swedish) linguists have classified it as a form of Svealandic, others consider ...

Aszev

Yesterday I began messing with Scandinavian dialects again, and ended up making this map. It uses a somewhat non-standard classification for the different varieties than what's usually seen. The accuracy of this classification can obviously be discussed, but I think it's fairly good. One main point ...

Aszev

Miekko wrote:protip: no one wants to learn your conlangs. if they claim different, it's just to be friendly.

this is true for all conlangers.

Aszev

TomHChappell wrote:
linguoboy wrote:So say tuque. (Canadian English is English, too, y'know.)
I know how that's pronounced in Canadian English; but I honestly thought it was still spelled <toque>, as in French.

You can spell it tuque in French too... that's the way I'm familiar with. tuque [tsyk]

Aszev

I would but it is too easy. I am not a cruel person. Noobface, you fail at being Mr Saturday. Who are you calling Noobface? I'm calling you noobface, noobface! :roll: :P Because no one ever quotes me, and I would quote this anyway had someone else said this. but that wasn't even funny...

Aszev

http://www.almeopedia.com/index.php/Ger ... 8Finorized

I get a ? in your link above, for the ď

Aszev

Excellent!

N?vazhin!

Aszev

How big is it?

Aszev

zompist wrote:
Aszev wrote:Why isn't <h> used for /?/ in the transcriptions?
In Flaidish, I assume you mean? Because it would seriously mislead readers. It's better to have a character that people know they don't recognize, than one they think they do but which has an unexpected meaning.

Good point,

Aszev

Why isn't <h> used for /?/ in the transcriptions?

Aszev

I would be interested in a Verdurian PDF. When there is something about a language in HTML I bookmark it, and then it gets lost in the shuffle on my bookmarks folder (350+ web sites), even though there is a folder set apart for languages. A PDF file would allow me to save it and find it easily. ......

Aszev

Just a thought, why don't you make a pdf file of the Verdurian grammar?

Bara en tanke, varf?r g?r du inte en pdf-fil av den verdurienska grammatiken?

Aszev

S? hur g?r det med publiceringen?

So how's the publishing going?

Aszev

Dewrad has a point.

Aszev

Avaja wrote:
Aszev wrote:- hamburgare is correct but the g is pronounced as j, thus /hamb8rjare/
I clearly don't say /8/. My dialect probably uses /}/ instead.

Are both your short and long u at the same poa?

Aszev

Yes, you're right, they are short in quick speech. I don't make the first vowels in tisdag and torsdag short though.

Aszev

linguofreak wrote:Question: Since s is dental, shouldn't it be represented as ? or ??

There is nothing to confuse it with so there's no reason.

Aszev

I live near Link?ping and I go to school there so I guess my dialect would be quite suitable for this purpose then. Not that I have a real dialect anyway scince we speak quite standard down here...

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