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by Pinetree
Sat Apr 06, 2013 12:39 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Romanization challenge thread
Replies: 3842
Views: 872019

Re: Romanization challenge thread

Nortlang: /p b t d k g/ <p b t d k g> /f v θ ð s z ʃ ʒ x h/ <f v th dh s z sh zh ch h> /m n r j w/ <m n r j w> /l ɫ ɬ ɮ/ <l gl tl dl /a æ ɛ e ø i o ʊ u/ <a æ e e ø e o u u> Nozudven vrejas vachra tol ezat. Lovden i dhulven chelat, tolaj vinaselet. Tlifethesh moshan onan, vakhethesh vlachat. nozʊdvɛn...
by Pinetree
Sat Apr 06, 2013 12:23 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Non-obvious placename pronunciations
Replies: 253
Views: 41805

Re: Non-obvious placename pronunciations

London, of course, is even worse. I once worked in Marylebone, which famously there ISN'T a correct pronunciation of. Instead, people embarrassedly settle into one of m{r@l@b@n, "m{ril@boUn, or (my own version) "mal@b@n, and react with appropriate snobbery and/or embarrassment when confronted with ...
by Pinetree
Mon Mar 25, 2013 3:56 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Most Batshit Natlang Competition!
Replies: 203
Views: 51589

Re: The Most Batshit Natlang Competition!

B̳̼̯̤̞̹̤̉̍ͧ̏ͪ̾̈́̕Ẏ͍͙͙͐̈́̕ ̵͚̙͔̞̳͛ͯ̆Y͋ͫ̑ͬ͝O̲͔̅̀̕U͎̭̲͙ͥͣȒ̷̙̮̬̣̲̱͖̔ ͙̺̙̩Cͯͦ͒͡O͖̗̻͎̗̺̞͛͜M̸ͪ̃̃͂ͣ̑̚M̵̩̜͈̰͇̋̏A̬͓̼̦̗̻̻ͭN͕̙̱̗̥ͫ͌̊̇͑ͥ̆D͉̘̪̩͗ͦ͟ How is that pronounced? Or do all those diacritics cancel each other out? They work in concert to indicate metallic voicing . OF COURSE. How could I miss that? And if...
by Pinetree
Mon Mar 25, 2013 2:52 pm
Forum: None of the above
Topic: The Contradictory Feelings Thread
Replies: 933
Views: 213196

Re: The Contradictory Feelings Thread

Listened to a song in Faroese, liked the sound of it but disliked the < í > = /ʊi/ and random instances of <ú> = /ʉu/ and <ógv> = [ɛɡv] instead of [ɔuɡv] as it should be if one used actual logic. Still, I think Faroese without these kinks which I mildly dislike wouldn't be Faroese then I wouldn't l...
by Pinetree
Mon Mar 25, 2013 2:48 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Most Batshit Natlang Competition!
Replies: 203
Views: 51589

Re: The Most Batshit Natlang Competition!

WeepingElf wrote:
Pinetree wrote:B̳̼̯̤̞̹̤̉̍ͧ̏ͪ̾̈́̕Ẏ͍͙͙͐̈́̕ ̵͚̙͔̞̳͛ͯ̆Y͋ͫ̑ͬ͝O̲͔̅̀̕U͎̭̲͙ͥͣȒ̷̙̮̬̣̲̱͖̔ ͙̺̙̩Cͯͦ͒͡O͖̗̻͎̗̺̞͛͜M̸ͪ̃̃͂ͣ̑̚M̵̩̜͈̰͇̋̏A̬͓̼̦̗̻̻ͭN͕̙̱̗̥ͫ͌̊̇͑ͥ̆D͉̘̪̩͗ͦ͟
How is that pronounced? Or do all those diacritics cancel each other out?
They work in concert to indicate metallic voicing.
by Pinetree
Sat Mar 23, 2013 5:01 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Most Batshit Natlang Competition!
Replies: 203
Views: 51589

Re: The Most Batshit Natlang Competition!

You are boring, Victor. Batshit = awesome. That's the reason my hatred for Esperanto has quietly subsided. As far as Finlay's years-old comments on Gaelic go, it stande to reason that Scottish is worse in that regard than Irish. Consider these: oíche - oidhche (night) [iːhə] - [ɤ̃ɪ̃çə] donn - donn ...
by Pinetree
Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:53 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Most Batshit Natlang Competition!
Replies: 203
Views: 51589

Re: The Most Batshit Natlang Competition!

You are boring, Victor. Batshit = awesome. That's the reason my hatred for Esperanto has quietly subsided. As far as Finlay's years-old comments on Gaelic go, it stande to reason that Scottish is worse in that regard than Irish. Consider these: oíche - oidhche (night) [iːhə] - [ɤ̃ɪ̃çə] donn - donn ...
by Pinetree
Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:24 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Most Batshit Natlang Competition!
Replies: 203
Views: 51589

Re: The Most Batshit Natlang Competition!

You are boring, Victor. Batshit = awesome. That's the reason my hatred for Esperanto has quietly subsided. As far as Finlay's years-old comments on Gaelic go, it stande to reason that Scottish is worse in that regard than Irish. Consider these: oíche - oidhche (night) [iːhə] - [ɤ̃ɪ̃çə] donn - donn ...
by Pinetree
Wed Mar 13, 2013 11:38 pm
Forum: None of the above
Topic: Creativity of the day
Replies: 1704
Views: 336332

Re: Creativity of the day

I've begun a series of shipping containers in MS Paint. I will eventually put them on a freighter I will draw. Containers.PNG You're missing a Zim container. Is this the most important Israel one? I could make it, I've just never seen it. These are the ones I've made so far. Containers.png There's ...
by Pinetree
Wed Mar 13, 2013 9:49 pm
Forum: None of the above
Topic: Creativity of the day
Replies: 1704
Views: 336332

Re: Creativity of the day

Viktor77 wrote:I've begun a series of shipping containers in MS Paint. I will eventually put them on a freighter I will draw.
Containers.PNG
You're missing a [/url=http://www.atlaso.com/images/containers ... 025_TQ.jpg]Zim[/url] container.
by Pinetree
Sun Mar 10, 2013 3:35 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Romanization challenge thread
Replies: 3842
Views: 872019

Re: Romanization challenge thread

Thank you, one and all. Also, sorry for being rude, Gamma.

I quite like Sangi's consonants, along with the latter two's treatment of my vowels, so that results in:

<m n ng>
<p t c k>
<b d j g>
<f s sh>
<v z zh>
<r l y w>
<a e i o u r>
by Pinetree
Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:16 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Derivation of Nouns from Verbs in English
Replies: 57
Views: 10158

Re: Derivation of Nouns from Verbs in English

I've never, ever, ever, stressed any variant of protest on the first syllable. Then again, I'm not a native speaker, I'm constantly exposed to weird accents and the rule I most commonly ignore in a language is that concerning stress. One of the biggest barriers to communication in my experience is ...
by Pinetree
Fri Mar 08, 2013 2:09 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Romanization challenge thread
Replies: 3842
Views: 872019

Re: Romanization challenge thread

This needs a romanisation: Something I cooked up last week: Phoneme Inventory: N m n ŋ P d p t c k P v b d ɟ g F d f s ɕ F v v z ʑ T ɽ A j w A l l V ɑ e i o u ɚ~ɻ̍* Syllable structure: C 1 V(C 2 )(C 3 ) C 1 =P d P v F d F v T A A l C 2 =A C 3 =N A l if V=ɚ~ɻ̍, C 1 ≠T Allophony: None concieved at thi...
by Pinetree
Fri Mar 08, 2013 2:09 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Post your conlang's phonology
Replies: 2278
Views: 514528

Re: Post your conlang's phonology

Something I cooked up last week: Phoneme Inventory: N m n ŋ P d p t c k P v b d ɟ g F d f s ɕ F v v z ʑ T ɽ A j w A l l V ɑ e i o u ɚ~ɻ̍* Syllable structure: C 1 V(C 2 )(C 3 ) C 1 =P d P v F d F v T A A l C 2 =A C 3 =N A l if V=ɚ~ɻ̍, C 1 ≠T Allophony: None concieved at this time. *I used the vertica...
by Pinetree
Thu Feb 28, 2013 2:59 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 2827
Views: 633592

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

Poplar wrote:Are the sound changes below plausible?
r → ð* → ʒ
AFAIK, Faroese is already on it's way to this, by a different route:

Old Norse r → ɻ → Faroese ʐ → *ʒ(?)
by Pinetree
Tue Feb 26, 2013 1:11 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Help your conlang fluency (2)
Replies: 6633
Views: 771542

Re: Help your conlang fluency

Serafín wrote:Including Murkan > English, Brit > English and Strayan > English translators.
You're forgetting Knadjen.
by Pinetree
Sun Feb 24, 2013 5:34 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Sounds That You Can/Can't Pronounce Easily
Replies: 322
Views: 57200

Re: Sounds That You Can/Can't Pronounce Easily

ol bofoshnae wrote:Lateral palatal approximant. I don't know why but it's a pig.
The lat-pal fricative is a fun one.
by Pinetree
Sat Feb 23, 2013 9:18 pm
Forum: None of the above
Topic: Creativity of the day
Replies: 1704
Views: 336332

Re: Creativity of the day

Vuvuzela wrote:Since I'd already merged the layers down
Never do this.

Always keep an unmerged native copy (psd/xcf/whatever) in case you need to make changes later (like in this case)

Other than that, the paper looks good.
by Pinetree
Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:59 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Post your conlang's phonology
Replies: 2278
Views: 514528

Re: Post your conlang's phonology

An inventory I came up with solely for the inclusion of a voiceless palatal lateral fricative: /p t c k/ <p t kj k> /f s ɕ~ç/ <f s sj> /ʦ ʨ/ <ts tsj> /ɹ j w/ <r j w> /l ʎ/ <l lj> /ɬ ʎ̝̊*/ <ll llj> /m n/ <m n> /i u e o a/ <i u e o a> /ai̯ː ua̯ː ei̯ː oa̯ː aː/ <ii uu ee oo aa> *Ideally, I'd write this ...
by Pinetree
Sun Feb 17, 2013 4:20 pm
Forum: None of the above
Topic: Linguistic Quackery Thread, take 2
Replies: 812
Views: 210022

Re: Linguistic Quackery Thread, take 2

"American Sign Language is the only sign language" It seems it. Whenever I search for sign language I get ASL most of the time. Even when searching for British, Spanish or Catalan sign language somewhere they'll mention ASL. Get off the Internet ASL, or at least stop hogging so much of it, lol. Nic...
by Pinetree
Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:53 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Post your conlang's phonology
Replies: 2278
Views: 514528

Re: Post your conlang's phonology

I was going to try one, but I've got nothing that isn't horribly unrealistic... what natlangs are there that don't romanize well? Yi, maybe? Let's see... /p t ts tʂ tɕ k/ /pʰ tʰ tsʰ tʂʰ tɕʰ kʰ/ /b d dz dʐ dʑ g/ /mb nd ndz ndʐ ndʑ ŋg/ /f s ʂ ɕ x h/ /v z ʐ ʑ ɣ/ /m n ɳ ɲ ŋ/ /l r j ɥ w/ /æ æː ɑ ɑː ɛ ə ...
by Pinetree
Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:14 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Sound Change Game
Replies: 2673
Views: 513835

Re: Sound Change Game

Classic Bìlechte adaitidaidi [ɛ.'dai.tɪ.'dai.dɪ] :> Old Enggrót edítidídi [ɛ.ˌdʊi̯.ʰtɪ.ˈdʊi̯.di]
by Pinetree
Sat Jan 12, 2013 11:40 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Haedus Book (font alpha test)
Replies: 27
Views: 5850

Re: Haedus Book (font alpha test)

Apparently it's called a Vend. It's U+A768.
by Pinetree
Fri Jan 04, 2013 11:38 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Phonoaesthetics
Replies: 66
Views: 22472

Re: Phonoaesthetics

My own aesthetic sense is quite different from that of Tolkien's, so it's certainly not universal even if common to prefer soft phones. Phones I quite like: ( x-sampa ) k m v z x E Phones I dislike: b p w u 2 h I'm not sure what the pattern here is, if there is any. I do tend to really like voiced ...
by Pinetree
Fri Jan 04, 2013 6:31 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Methuselah-ean/-an/-ic/-y
Replies: 14
Views: 3511

Re: Methuselah-ean/-an/-ic/-y

I did find some hits for "methuselaic". Cf. Elijah > Elijaic , Moses (Heb. Moše ) > Mosaic . The problem with this one is that Mosaic , at least, is something akin to a genitive - the word is most often used in the context of the Hebrew laws: The Mosaic Laws , i.e. "The Laws of Moses". That's reall...