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- Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:28 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
- Replies: 2827
- Views: 619910
Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Was there only one long vowel? If not, what happened to them? I don't know yet. Maybe I should make the system /i i: u u: ɑ ɑ: ɛ ɛ: ɤ~o ɤ:~o: ø̞ ø̞ə/? Or make all the long vowels diphthongs with offglides? It isn't quite as interesting then though. Or perhaps it could be explained by something like...
- Sat Oct 06, 2012 4:15 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
- Replies: 2827
- Views: 619910
Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Does anyone think the following (deliberately unstable) vowel system could come about: /i u ɑ ɛ ɤ~o ø̞ə/ The idea is that */e/ lowered to /ɛ/ and */ø:/ to /ø̞/ with a schwa offglide (not sure how to fit the centralising bit in though). This is putting pressure on /ɤ~o/ which historically was */ɤ/ an...
- Fri Oct 05, 2012 4:53 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Frintha Scripts and Maps
- Replies: 44
- Views: 14667
Re: Frintha Script Family
These are so cool! Keep up the good work
- Fri Oct 05, 2012 4:47 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
- Replies: 3108
- Views: 650724
Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
Lolz you all took me seriously about "mirror" Could you not tell that something transcribed as [mɹ̩ːː↗] was being tongue-in-cheek? Though I confused it by then being deadpan about the correct transcription immediately after. Soz Pretending to be trolling all along after making a mistake is rather t...
- Thu Oct 04, 2012 5:51 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
- Replies: 3108
- Views: 650724
Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
mirror [mɹ̩ːː↗] Mrr? Are you sure you've transcribed that correctly? Have you ever heard anyone from Northern Ireland speak? XD Though in "careful speech" it's probably [mɹ̩ɹ̩] or [mə˞ɹə˞]. Well English isn't typically described as a tonal language with three degrees of length... That's true. North...
- Tue Oct 02, 2012 3:56 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
- Replies: 3108
- Views: 650724
Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
mirror [mɹ̩ːː↗] Mrr? Are you sure you've transcribed that correctly? Have you ever heard anyone from Northern Ireland speak? XD Though in "careful speech" it's probably [mɹ̩ɹ̩] or [mə˞ɹə˞]. garage [ˈgæ.ɹʷɪdʒ] [ˈgaˑɹədʒ] Nice! Now what does it mean for yous? ;) For me it's: (1) the place where you k...
- Mon Oct 01, 2012 5:39 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The Innovative Usage Thread
- Replies: 2452
- Views: 418354
Re: The Innovative Usage Thread
Sounds like (sub)urban SE England to me. So, not an innovation as such - though I've also heard [leŋf].Tieđđá wrote:I was watching a Let's Play video, and the commentator had [lɛɱf] ~ [leɱf] for the word "length". Does nasal assimilation occur often in this place with people who have <th> [f]?
- Mon Oct 01, 2012 5:12 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
- Replies: 3108
- Views: 650724
Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
A small piece of me dies knowing that there are people pronouncing it ['leɪjəˌkʉ:n] out there... :cry: That wasn't quite the worst thing I heard in my school days - I think the worst ever was the Polish surname Wojnicki pronounced [wɔːdʒʲnɪ̈ɣ̞ɪ]. What about: garage ['gaɹɪ̈dʒ] (probably been done be...
- Mon Oct 01, 2012 4:51 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
- Replies: 3108
- Views: 650724
Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
[aɫə'hɪθiən], ['nɔ̜ːfɪʃ]
- Mon Oct 01, 2012 2:03 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Morphoplogical change stimulated by Sprachbunds.
- Replies: 18
- Views: 3916
Re: Morphoplogical change stimulated by Sprachbunds.
Just to throw a grenade in....
*cough* Japanese, Korean and Ainu *cough*
*cough* Japanese, Korean and Ainu *cough*
- Mon Oct 01, 2012 2:01 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: PC pronouns
- Replies: 56
- Views: 19113
Re: PC pronouns
YES! We also have this (NI). We have "yous'ns" or "you'ns" too, and I've even heard "yous's" for the possessive among children.finlay wrote:the 'native' plural pronoun in scotland is 'yous'
- Mon Oct 01, 2012 1:54 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Post your conlang's phonology
- Replies: 2278
- Views: 504503
Re: Post your conlang's phonology
It's for an a priori language - and yes, the <ǵ> is there in imitation of Faroese. I guess I could change /pɸ bβ/ to /pf bv/, but to do that and not change /ɸ β/ to /f v/ would somewhat offend my sense of continuity... oh well. Having /pf bv/ but not /f v/ would be perfectly reasonable (the rarity ...
- Mon Oct 01, 2012 11:47 am
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Post your conlang's phonology
- Replies: 2278
- Views: 504503
Re: Post your conlang's phonology
I made this to somewhat emulate the sound and visual aesthetic of the insular Scandinavian languages (Icelandic and Faroese) - Could I have suggestions as to what more I can do with the allophony? Consonants: Nasals: /m n ŋ/ <m n ng> Plosives: /p b t d k g/ <p b t d k g> Fricatives: /ɸ β s z x/ <f ...
- Sat Sep 29, 2012 4:50 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
- Replies: 3108
- Views: 650724
Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
Is this just for venae because it's a bit uncommon or you'd also say it for hominid ae , alg ae , antenn ae , ... (well, I doubt these are very common, but there must be something)? Hmm I think I'd say [aɪ] in nearly all cases, except ['algi] for some reason. For <antennae> I'd say [an'tɛnaɪ]. But ...
- Sat Sep 29, 2012 4:18 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
- Replies: 3108
- Views: 650724
Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
I'd be inclined to say ['vi:naɪ 'ka:vaɪ], but only because I got into the habit of pronouncing Latin <ae> as [aɪ] when learning.
Incidentally, I'd say Aeneas [aɪ'neɪja:s] rather than [ɛ'ni:əs], and Laocoon as [ˌla:ʔoʊ'kɔ:ʔɔ:n], not ['leɪjəˌkʉ:n]
Incidentally, I'd say Aeneas [aɪ'neɪja:s] rather than [ɛ'ni:əs], and Laocoon as [ˌla:ʔoʊ'kɔ:ʔɔ:n], not ['leɪjəˌkʉ:n]
- Sat Sep 29, 2012 7:07 am
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Romanization challenge thread
- Replies: 3842
- Views: 851542
Re: Romanization challenge thread
/m n ɲ ŋ/ <m n ny ng> /pʰ p b tʰ t d tʃʰ tʃ dʒ kʰ k g/ <ph p b th t d tch tc dj kh k g> /f v s z ʃ ʒ x ɣ/ <f v s z c j x gh> /w ɥ r l j ʎ/ <w uh r l y ly> /i y u e ø o ɛ a ɑ/ <i ue u ee oe o e a aa> /dejn tʰo kraʃn breɲ lyme ʒgwaks | pʰɛ mlevnvi spʰetʰim ʎuwm̥itʃ sø | ʒa sʰalmni ʃeʃeŋks ɲdʒadɥor lfj...
- Fri Sep 28, 2012 1:41 pm
- Forum: L&L Museum
- Topic: Bizarre Sound Changes
- Replies: 190
- Views: 94661
Re: Bizarre Sound Changes
Which English dialects have [ʁ]???? [ɔzɛʁ zan fʁɛnʃ pipɔl]???Elector Dark wrote:English ɡenerally has [ɻ] or [ɹ] while some dialects have [ʁ]
- Fri Sep 28, 2012 1:31 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: PC pronouns
- Replies: 56
- Views: 19113
Re: PC pronouns
I've heard conflicting views about Korean 그사람 (similar to Jap. "ano hito") - most natives I've asked seem to think it's neutral, but at least one thought it was more likely to be a man. Can anyone shed light on that?
- Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:54 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Your Native Language
- Replies: 228
- Views: 35096
Re: Your Native Language
Túsund takk!johanpeturdam wrote:Og væl hevur tú lært.Rekettye wrote:Mær dámar føroyskt, eg royndi at læra eitt sindur. Eg havi vitjað Havnina og onnur støð, tey vóru sera vøkur.
- Wed Sep 26, 2012 12:10 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
- Replies: 3108
- Views: 650724
Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
Donkey --LOT, CLOTH, or STRUT? (CLOTH for me, but last night I noticed that Boston-raised Louis CK has the LOT vowel. One of my grade school teachers had STRUT and we mocked her for it.) For me, donkey, lot and cloth are all [ɔ] (except cloth is [ɔ:] possibly with a schwa offglide); strut is betwee...
- Wed Sep 26, 2012 7:50 am
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Romanization challenge thread
- Replies: 3842
- Views: 851542
Re: Romanization challenge thread
ó-ňǰółi-é ʔḁňiťí ťosày ɯšpɯ_àʔ-àɯnwék. MASC snake prt than comp be eq dat-FEM albatross snake at than more be to albatross The snake is scalier than the albatross. /p t̠ c k ʔ/ <p t c k q> /mb nt nd ɲɟ ŋk ŋg/ <mb nt nd nj nk ng> /m n nʷ n̠ ɲ ŋ ŋʷ/ <m n nv nn ny ng ngv/ /f β s ð s̠ ç ɣ h/ <f b s d x...
- Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:43 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The Innovative Usage Thread
- Replies: 2452
- Views: 418354
Re: The Innovative Usage Thread
I don't know if this is regional, but a lot people over 50 here say "bye now" to mean "see you later". If it's only used by older people, wouldn't that make it the opposite of "innovative"? (I'm still under 50 and that strikes me as a completely unremarkable thing to say.) People say that not uncom...
- Sat Sep 22, 2012 3:53 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
- Replies: 2827
- Views: 619910
Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Yeah I'll have to rethink this. a > e / [+stress] e > a / [+stress] I think this might be problematic. You're either undoing an earlier sound change, or making two phonemes swap places with each other. Either way is odd. That's exactly what I was doing - making them swap places. Without thinking too...
- Thu Sep 20, 2012 5:12 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
- Replies: 3108
- Views: 650724
Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
Oregon [ˈɔɹɪɡn̩]
oregano [ɔɹɪˈɡaːnoʷ]
falafel [fəˈlafl̩]
But I hardly ever say these American-flavoured words.
oregano [ɔɹɪˈɡaːnoʷ]
falafel [fəˈlafl̩]
But I hardly ever say these American-flavoured words.
- Thu Sep 20, 2012 1:54 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Your Native Language
- Replies: 228
- Views: 35096
Re: Your Native Language
I speak Faroese as a native language. However, since I've been learning Danish since the age of 18 months, I probably could add that as a second native language, but in general I count it as my first foreign language. Mær dámar føroyskt, eg royndi at læra eitt sindur. Eg hevði vitjað Havnina og onn...