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So if verbs do not indicate tense (or aspect apparently), how does one indicate this if it is necessary? Are there any particles or standard adverbs for that purpose? Dunno what you mean by "necessary"... tense isn't a marked feature in Lingo Dunieŭ verbs, just like evidentiality, jussivity, commis...

Your suggestions are fair. <ṅ> has been struck from the orthography in favor of <n> and cases have been extended to the plural.

ol bofoshnae wrote: Oku - bak pa vere!
That's could be painful!

Doloro nesu motivo na faċa to, ċo neċesut faċura.
Pain is no reason not to do what must be done.

Kereb wrote: why does it need a diacritic then? what's wrong with <nk> and <ng> ?

It's aesthetically pleasing. Anyway, better to overmark than undermark; if dental and labial stops get their own special nasal, there isn't any reason not to give velar stops one.

whaaaaaaaat why

What are you confused about?

Lingo Dunieŭ is a conlang intended to be easily learnable and understandable worldwide. The name signifies "language of the world" and is pronounced /liŋgo dunijew/. PHONOLOGY : /m n/ m n /p t k tʃ/ p t c ċ /b d g dʒ/ b d g ġ /f s h/ f s h /l r/ l r /w j/ ŭ ĭ /a e i o u/ a e i o u There is no voice...

This is like some long lost Turanic* language, with the art and sounds fitting just right. A lost brother to Finnish, Japanese, and Turkic perhaps?

*using the broadest definition of Turanic, as in this chart:
http://files.blogter.hu/user_files/1138 ... an-b-7.jpg

Че ка, хлуйе, снехкът праболеди "либри" че "якели" не дин дещ?
[t͡ʃɛ ka, 'xlujɛ, 'snɛxkɤt prɐ'bolɛdi "libri" t͡ʃɛ "jakɐli" nɛ din dɛʃt?]
And what, exactly, do the words "free" and "equal" mean in this expression?

Hanheliubl zaulizbér [zɑu̯ɺizˈbeʁ] -> Траческ (Tračesk) завлизбер (zavlizber) [zɐvliz'bɛr]

(what did this loanword mean originally, by the way?)

Прока абе тръскрищедо ти "w" че "h" про лъго "о" че "е"?
[pru'ka ɐ'bɛ trɤ'skriʃtɛdu ti "w" t͡ʃɛ "h" pro 'lɤgu "o" t͡ʃɛ "e"?]
Why does your transcription have "w" and "h" for long "o" and "e"?

That's perfectly realistic, not every change has to apply across the board.

Does Dutch have stressed vowels phonemically?

If so, why not have glottal stops appear word-initially before them? Unstressed initial vowels would remain unadorned.

Then you could have stress shift any way you want it to and there you have them, contrastive glottal stops.

То пицада на яждува ни ветеред.
[to 'pit͡sɐdɐ na jɐʒ'duvɐ ni vɛ'tɛrɛt]
But pizza doesn't help the stomach.

Is a chain shift

d > z / V_V
t > d / V_V
ll > t / V_V

possible? Assuming that any other geminate liquids stay where they are.

That's a really cool orthography! I like <å> for [ɒ], though I was worried that it's not found in Romance generally... If you want to see the sound changes and stuff, I made it for Mr. Zompist's SCA2, you can see the transformations here: Y=ăěĭŏŭ W=aeiou L=āēīōū V=āēīōūaeiouåɛɔə H=ptkᴋᴛbdᴅgɢszfmnrlj...

Poplar wrote:Next: to smile

In Gaʎɒɲeʒ ~ Galhaunhezh ? Galhaunhege ? dunno

dadar - dadar - to smile
ɒsar - ausar ? - to smile toothily
ɒtesegar - autesegar ? - to smile, grin, make faces
ʎir - lhir ? - to smile, grin (archaic)
ridar - ridar - to smile (poetic)

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This is a romlang called Gaʎɒɲeʒ that I can't figure out a good orthography for. p t k b d g s ʃ h z ʒ m n (ŋ) ɲ l ʎ r j w u i o e a ɒ Sample: Un lob, ku akotrat un aɲ abolad es so kab, deʒet ɲe kaber es, ok deʒilar kaʎ akuz jutesegar a aɲ al dilet ko al lob at madogar es. Aʃet el aret hrod al aɲ at...

My, uh, Romlang has this vowel system ^

Anything cool I can do with that? I was thinking something like stressed ɛ>e and the rest to a, and stressed ɔ>o with the rest to ɒ, but I dunno.

"She was feeling a little tard"?? She'll get locked up for that! "r" has an offglide in stressed syllables after a front vowel, for example <bead> [bid] vs <beard> [biəɹd]. This makes <chair> [t͡ʃ ͡ɛjəɹ] and <Cher> [t͡ʃ ͡ɛəɹ] very near homophones. Whence [tajəɹd] ~ [taəɹd] ~ <tard>. I've decided th...

Note the following: [ʌ] y “cut” [ʊ] y “foot” You merged the two here. You're absolutely right. The "oo" of "foot" threw me off. You pronounce "father" as /ˈfɑθər/? The old orthography, uh, cross-dialectically contaminated my transcription, lol. Thanks for pointing it out. Here is a longer sample: G...

Underlyingly any new English orthography should at least be able to contain all the distinctions made by Received Pronunciation and General American. That's pretty impossible. People learning the new orthography (presumably on the basis that it's phonetic) would resent having to learn extra distinc...

This morning I had some free time in between classes so I came up with a transcription of English that is, I guess, semi-phonemic (rather than phonetic or etymological). It reflects my English most of all, so it doesn't distinguish between Bach's , box , and balks though most AME speakers do. Nor do...

I can't be any help with sounds like ʈ, m̥ and ɯ but Bulgarian for one represents it's /ɤ/ in Romanization with any of y, ă, ŭ, u (with /u/ written ou), or even ů.

Could one of those serve to transcribe your /ɤ/?

4)Leuven is a descendant from the proto-germanic word lubanja-, which means 'the loved one' (Eng : love Dutch : liefde German : Liebe) 5) your theory "lubanja" is probably also cognate to slavic "Любена" /ljubena/ meaning the same thing, which is also a name! I guess it comes from * lewbʰ + en + (j...

That's probably just the feminine plural of n-stem nouns, c.f. our world's Taginae, Cannae, Sopianae, Agrippinae, Gratianae, etc.

There's a fellow who's apparently been working really hard to catalog American English dialects and he suggests anywhere from 13-16 contrastive vowels for American speakers:

http://aschmann.net/AmEng/#Vowels

What would this system be classified as, something like T16?