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I've always intuitively felt (or perhaps more just general observation) that guttural sounds (velar to glottal) were the most likely to have free variation. Perhaps due to the dexterity of the front of the tongue as compared to the back. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if there were a language out ...

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Isn't this 1.2?

Nortaneous wrote:There's a language that shifted /k g/ to a fortis and lenis glottal stop.

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ǩhleŋše /m n ɳ ɲ ŋ/ m n rn ň ŋ /b d d͡z ɖ͡ʐ d͡ʑ g/ b d ȷ rȷ ȷ̌ g /p t t͡s ʈ͡ʂ t͡ɕ k q ʔ/ p t c rc č k q ' /pʰ tʰ t͡sʰ ʈ͡ʂʰ t͡ɕʰ kʰ qʰ/ ph th ch rch čh kh qh /p' t' t͡s' ʈ͡ʂ' t͡ɕ' k' q'/ p̓ t̓ c̓ rc̓ č̓ k̓ q̓ /z ʐ ʑ ɣ/ z rz ž g /s ʂ ɕ x χ h/ s rs š ǩ x h /sʰ ʂʰ ɕʰ xʰ/ sh rsh šh ǩh /s' ʂ' ɕ' x' χ'/ s...

/xʰʕəŋɕə/ /m n ɳ ɲ ŋ/ /b d d͡z ɖ͡ʐ d͡ʑ g/ /p t t͡s ʈ͡ʂ t͡ɕ k q ʔ/ /pʰ tʰ t͡sʰ ʈ͡ʂʰ t͡ɕʰ kʰ qʰ/ /p' t' t͡s' ʈ͡ʂ' t͡ɕ' k' q'/ /z ʐ ʑ ɣ/ /s ʂ ɕ x χ h/ /sʰ ʂʰ ɕʰ xʰ/ /s' ʂ' ɕ' x' χ'/ /w̃ j̃/ /w j ʕ/ /r ʀ/ /i iː u uː uɪ̯ uːɪ̯/ /ə əː əɪ̯ əʊ̯ əːɪ̯ əːʊ̯/ /a aː aɪ̯ aʊ̯ aːɪ̯ aːʊ̯ ɒ ɒː ɒɪ̯ ɒːɪ̯/ O(N/G)V(N)...(...

Ćuk/Chuk /i iː u uː/ i ii u uu /ɛ̃ ẽ ə əː ə̃ ə̃ː ɔ̃ õː/ į,ie,i' įi,oi,ii' e ee ę,eo,e' ęe,oe,ee' ų,ue,u' ųu,ou,uu' /a aː ã ãː/ a aa ą,ao,a' ąa,oa,aa' /əɪ̯ əʊ̯ aɪ̯ aʊ̯/ ei eu ai au /ə̃ɪ̯ ə̃ʊ̯ ãɪ̯ ãʊ̯/ ęi,eoi,ei' ęu,eou,eu' ąi,aoi,ai' ąu,aou,au' /m n ɲ ŋ/ m n ń,nh ŋ,nn /m̊ n̊ ŋ̊/ hm hn hŋ,hnn /p t k ...

/t͡ɕuk/ /i iː u uː/ /ɛ̃ ẽː ə əː ə̃ ə̃ː ɔ̃ õː/ /a aː ã ãː/ /əɪ̯ əʊ̯ aɪ̯ aʊ̯/ /ə̃ɪ̯ ə̃ʊ̯ ãɪ̯ ãʊ̯/ /m n ɲ ŋ/ /m̊ n̊ ŋ̊/ /p t k q ʡ ʔ/ /b d g/ /p' t' k' q'/ /t͡θ t͡s ʈ͡ʂ t͡ɕ/ /d͡ð d͡z ɖ͡ʐ d͡ʑ/ /t͡θ' t͡s' ʈ͡ʂ' t͡ɕ'/ /ɸ θ s ʂ ɕ x χ ħ h/ /β ð z ʐ ʑ ɣ/ /ɻ j w ʕ/ /ɻ̥ j̥ w̥/ /ʔubə qəːt͡ɕəɪ̯ sa ŋ̊ãʂ dad͡ða k'ã...

What methods are there, if any, of developing nasal vowels without surrounding nasal consonants? Also, how (a)typical is it for languages with nasal vowels to have nasal codas?

Vowels /i y ɨ u/ /e ø ə o/ /a ɒ/ All vowels have a nasal counterpart Pulmonic Consonants /p t k q ʔ/ /t͡s t͡ɬ ʈ͡ʂ ʈ͡ɭ̝ t͡ɕ/ /m n ɳ ɲ ŋ/ /s ɬ ʂ ɭ̝ ɕ x χ h/ /w ɹ l ɻ ɭ j ʁ~ʕ/ Glottalic Consonants /p' t' k' q'/ /t͡s' t͡ɬ' ʈ͡ʂ' ʈ͡ɭ̝' t͡ɕ'/ Lingual Consonants /ǀ ŋǀ ŋǀ' ǀ'/ /ǃ ŋǃ ŋǃ' ǃ'/ /ǂ ŋǂ ŋǂ' ǂ'/ /ǁ ...

I do find a problem with some clusters... My language distinguished between normal stop, pre-aspirated stop and uvularized stops... problem it, it's hard to produce a pre-aspirated stop *after* another consonant; It is very difficult to do this: /ak.ʰtal/ and with uvularized stops it's hard to do t...

Some Mazatecan-inspired thingy: /pʰ p p' m̊ ˀm m ẘ w ˀw w̥̃ w̃ ˀw̃/ ph p p̛ mh m m̛ wh w w̛ vh v v̛ /tʰ t t' n̊ n ˀn sʰ s s'/ th t t' nh n n̛ sh s s̛ /kʰ k k' ŋ̊ ŋ ˀŋ xʰ x x' j̊ j ˀj j̃̊ j̃ ˀj̃/ kh k k̛ ŋh ŋ ŋ̛ xh x x̛ yh y y̛ jh j j̛ /ʔ h/ ̛ h /i iː a aː/ i ii a aa /ɨ ɨː ə əː/ ɨ ɨɨ e ee /u uː ɒ ɒː/...

Here, have a kitchen sink. /p ʷb pʷ ʲb pʲ pˁ t ʷd tʷ ʲd (ʒ) dʒ ʷdʒ dʒʷ ʲdˁ (ʒˁ) dʒˁ ʷdʒˁ dʒʷˁ tˁ k kʷ q qʷ qʷˁ qˁ ʔ/ /pʰ pʰʷ tʰ tʰʷ kʰ kʰʷ qʰ qʰʷ/ /p' t' k' kʷ' q' qʷ' qʷˁ' qˁ'/ /ɓ ɗ ɗʷ ɗˁ ɗʷˁ/ /ᵐb ʷ̃b ᵐbʷ ʲ̃b ᵐbˁ ⁿd ʷ̃d ⁿdʷ ʲ̃d (ʒ̃) ⁿdʒ̃ ʷ̃dʒ ⁿdʒʷ ʲ̃dˁ (ʒ̃ˁ) ⁿdʒˁ ʷ̃dʒˁ ⁿdʒʷˁ ⁿdˁ ᵑg ᵑgʷ/ /ᵐpʰ ᵐpʰʷ ...

Saisiyat /p t k ʔ/ <p t k '> /θ ʂ ħ/ <d s h> /β ð/ <v z> /m n ŋ/ <m n g> /l r/ <l r> /j w/ <y w> /i/ <i> /ø ə o/ <u e o> /æ a/ <æ a> ma'an sasoaw hayno' ila maʔan ʂ 1 aʂoaw haj 2 noʔ ila 1S.Gen stick where Asp ‘Where is my stick?’ 1: This text originally had /ʃ/ 2: This was originally /y/, however ...

Seems unlikely being that there are no other velarized consonants in the inventory. Also, the presence of /kɬ/ (for all intents and purposes, a coarticulated alveolar-velar lateral affricate) might suggest that a sequence /xɬ/ existed at some point. Later becoming /ɬʟ̥͓/... Or some other batshittery...

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Ḳaay Inventory t̼ t̪ ʈ c k q ʡ ʔ ‹p t d c k q g ʔ› t̪' ʈ' c' k' q' ‹ṭ ḍ ċ ḳ q̇› s̼ ɬ̼ s̪ ʂ ɭ̝̊ ç x χ ʜ h ‹f v s z l ȷ x h r ʰ› s̪' ʂ' ɭ̝̊' ç' x' χ' ‹ṡ ż ḷ j ẋ ḥ› j ɥ w ʕ ‹y u w o› ɨ ɨ̰ ‹ı i› ə əː ə̰ ə̃ ə̃ː ə̰̃ ‹e ee ė ę ęę ę̇› ɐ ɐː ɐ̰ ɐ̃ ɐ̃ː ɐ̰̃ ‹a aa ȧ ą ąą ą̇› Phonotactics CCCV(CC) 1.Clusters are...

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For symbols, if somebody could suggest something that looks "futuristic" (maybe similar to Aurebesh), that would be good. How 'bout whipping out the ol' chisel and clay tablet and hammer away at them yourself? Or adopt Aurebesh to your inventory. The writing system will be a system similar to Engli...

KathAveara wrote:Palato-velar - mid-way between palatal and velar.

Not 'pre-velar' /k̘ x̘ ʟ̘̊/?

If I ever manage to stop procrastinating, here's the tentative inventory of Gąikuhwo. So... Clicks? Stops: /t tʷ tʰ tʷʰ k kʷ kʰ kʷʰ kp kpʷ kpʰ kpʷʰ/ <d~tt dw~ttw t tw g~kk gw~kkw k kw b bw p pw> Clicks: /ǀ ǀʷ ! !ʷ ǁ ǁʷ/ <c cw q qw x xw> Clicks (contour): /ǀ ʔ ǀʷ ʔ ! ʔ !ʷ ʔ ǁ ʔ ǁʷ ʔ / <c' cw' q' qw'...

Those are voiceless. Okay. <ĩ ẽ ũ ã> are "tuned" (voiced) I understand. But how do they contrast with <í é ú á>? <ǐ ě ǔ ǎ> /y œ u o/. So would <i e u a> be /i ɛ ɯ ɤ/? A safir's mouth is structured identically to a human's. ITC, please use IPA or CXS. Also, this should be in the C&C Quickies forum.

Are these <r l i e u a ř ľ ǐ ě ǔ ǎ> voiceless as well? And are these <ĩ ẽ ũ ã> nasal variants or alternate spellings? Are their qualities as in IPA?

What are your phonotactics/syllable structure? Is there tone?

Are Saphir mouths identical to humans'?

If you have the ability to copy and paste: http://ipa.typeit.org/full/

Lyhoko Leaci wrote:kq kq'

what?