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by CatDoom
Sat Mar 11, 2017 8:35 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 2827
Views: 342766

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

Does #tl > #kl seem reasonable?
by CatDoom
Tue Jan 31, 2017 10:13 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Sound Change Game
Replies: 2673
Views: 260412

Re: Sound Change Game

Novilanuo ailet [a'i.let] :> Yewedu īlet [iː'l̪ɛt̪]
Novilanuo aitulit [a.i'du.lit] :> Yewedu īdūlit [iːd̪uː'l̪it̪]
Novilanuo tokipeval [to.gi'be.val] :> Yewedu ṭegibēvā [ʈəgibeː'vaː]
Novilanuo vol ['vol] :> Yewedu [vuː]
by CatDoom
Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:46 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Conlang relay [relocated] (aka "The Cursed Relay")
Replies: 2538
Views: 587704

Re: Conlang relay [relocated] (aka "The Cursed Relay")

Awesome! Now we just need to know something about Xšali, so we can develop the Xšali writing system and its Lukpanic and Western descendants...
by CatDoom
Thu Dec 15, 2016 4:08 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Sound Change Game
Replies: 2673
Views: 260412

Re: Sound Change Game

Classical Azorean hārīdā [ˈhaːriːdaː] > Proto-Lukpanic haəliəda [ˈ'haə̯.liə̯.da] > Doanu Lukpanic aileda [a'i.le.da] Classical Azorean hahturidā [ˈhaxturidaː] > Proto-Lukpanic hahitulida [ˈha.hi'tu.li.da] > Doanu Lukpanic aitulida [a.i'tu.li.da] Classical Azorean zōcifēvari [ˈðo:kiɸe:βari] > Proto-L...
by CatDoom
Wed Jul 06, 2016 3:43 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Help your conlang fluency (2)
Replies: 6633
Views: 175575

Re: Help your conlang fluency

Na t’ukh syan keng hub yeg lo Filadefíya. Hong ya fi rómbāth kambum na ngú mro hai î du. [nə t'ʊx sjən kʰɛŋ hʊp jɛk lɔ fɪlətɛˈ fija || hɔŋ jə fɪ rombə̤ːθ kʰəm'bʊm nə ŋu mrɔ haɪ̯ i̤ː tʊ] 1SG know rise go.from.1 eat sleep come.to.3 Philadelphia. place in that.IN town REL 1SG see 3SG then.PST be.prett...
by CatDoom
Wed Jun 29, 2016 7:54 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Sound Change Game
Replies: 2673
Views: 260412

Re: Sound Change Game

Agefaqeg pèleve [pɛˈle.ve] → Wendoth peyįvį [pəlʲḭvḭ]→ Yewedu čewe [tʃəwe] Agefaqeg pehe [ˈpe.he] → Wendoth pii [pi̤ɦi̤] → Yewedu pìhì [pi̤ɦi̤] Agefaqeg perorelouŋ [pe.ɹ̠ɔˈre.loŋ] → Wendoth pehorįwong [pəʁorḭwoŋ] → Yewedu perevu [pərəvu] Agefaqeg peheheŋ [peˈhe.hen] → Wendoth piiren [pi̤ɦi̤ʁən] → Ye...
by CatDoom
Thu Jun 02, 2016 4:00 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Regional accents are losing the battle to standard English
Replies: 17
Views: 2504

Re: Regional accents are losing the battle to standard Engli

I'm from California, so I never had an accent to begin with. ;P More seriously, I've traveled to a number of different parts of the country and don't feel like I usually notice a lot of pronounced region accents. However, it's entirely possible that I'm not very perceptive of them. I once spent a mo...
by CatDoom
Thu Jun 02, 2016 3:50 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Grammer and the Train of Thought
Replies: 4
Views: 1211

Grammer and the Train of Thought

So, my mom has a bad habit of trailing off after the start of a sentence, leaving the people she's talking to with no idea what she's trying to say until she collects her thoughts and finishes. It's the kind of thing that happens to everyone from time to time, I think; you'll be in the middle of say...
by CatDoom
Thu Jun 02, 2016 3:32 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Most Logical Word Order
Replies: 19
Views: 3342

Re: Most Logical Word Order

No grammatical feature is more logical than any other, as far as natural languages are concerned. You can make an SVO language if you want but that isn't more logical. I would say the most logical word order is to put the most important word first but I can't prove that's more logical so I can't cl...
by CatDoom
Thu May 19, 2016 12:52 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Conlang relay [relocated] (aka "The Cursed Relay")
Replies: 2538
Views: 587704

Re: Akana Conlang Relay 2011 (The Never Ending Relay)

I know I've been pretty quiet lately, but I've actually been working on a revision of Rrób tè Jĕhnò. Initially my motivation was mostly that I've never been happy with the butt-ugly orthography, and I wanted to change a couple of sound changes that I kind of regretted, but the more I've tinkered wit...
by CatDoom
Fri Apr 22, 2016 4:35 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Game: Let's Reform English
Replies: 339
Views: 50143

Re: Game: Let's Reform English

C[+plosive]ʔ > C[+ejective] V[+low tone] > V[+low falling tone] / C[+voiced][-sonorant] V[+mid tone] > V[+low tone] / C[+voiced][-sonorant] V[+high tone] > V[+low rising tone] / C[+voiced][-sonorant] V[+high tone] > V[+high rising] V[+low tone] > V[+high falling] C[+voiced][-sonorant] > C[-voiced] ...
by CatDoom
Fri Apr 22, 2016 11:16 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 2827
Views: 342766

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

So, let's say you've got a system where certain kinds of phonemic onset clusters are broken up by an epenthetic schwa, such that you might have a word like /rti/ which is pronounced [rəti]. Then you have a sound change where unstressed short vowels elide, so that /rti/ is now pronounced [rti] or [r̩...
by CatDoom
Thu Apr 07, 2016 2:09 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Multiple liquids without lateral-rhotic distinction?
Replies: 13
Views: 2076

Re: Multiple liquids without lateral-rhotic distinction?

The Chumashan family in California offers several additional examples of languages with plain /l/ vs glottalized /ˀl/ and no rhotic, as do the Yokuts languages , Salinan , Yuki and Wappo . Cupeño , formerly spoken in part of San Diego county, had /l/ and /ʎ/, while rhotics were limited to Spanish lo...
by CatDoom
Thu Apr 07, 2016 1:34 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Sound Change Game
Replies: 2673
Views: 260412

Re: Sound Change Game

Middle Laeh Tshyak nyì'tí [njɪ̀ətí] → Proto-Lukpanic niəti [ˈniəti] → Doanu Lukpanic neti [ˈneti] Middle Laeh Tshyak natsû [nàːtsʊ́ə] → Proto-Lukpanic naəsuəl [ˈnaəsuəl] → Doanu Lukpanic naisol [ˈna.izol] Middle Laeh Tshyak ánetsét [ʔáːnètséʔ] → Proto-Lukpanic aənisea [aəˈnise.a] → Doanu Lukpanic ai...
by CatDoom
Mon Apr 04, 2016 10:41 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Native speakers giving misleading information
Replies: 86
Views: 14303

Re: Native speakers giving misleading information

Ah, yes, that sort of thing. Reminds me of the times I've seen speakers of various Indo-Aryan languages insist that Sanskrit is the most specialest and perfectest language of all, and in some cases that the "Indo-European" languages are all actually direct descendants of Sanskrit. Even languages li...
by CatDoom
Fri Mar 25, 2016 4:13 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Sound Change Game
Replies: 2673
Views: 260412

Re: Sound Change Game

Otvei naihuaukih [najˈhwɑwkiχ] → U Bol neekuóogi [neːˈku̯oːgi] Otvei naiaakiahakiiaih [nɑˌjɑʔɑˌkjɑhɑˈkijajχ] → U Bol nayaagiakagíyee [najaːgi̯akaˈgijeː] Otvei miiakasih [ˌmijɑˈkɑʃiχ] → U Bol miyagáši [mijaˈgaʒi] Otvei kaihakiai [kajˈhɑkjaj] → U Bol keekágiee [keːˈkagi̯eː] Otvei kipaiaiahaaih [ˌkipɑˌ...
by CatDoom
Wed Mar 23, 2016 1:07 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Personal Names
Replies: 7
Views: 3035

Personal Names

I've been a little surprised by how little discussion I've seen of conlang personal names, considering that many people got started in conlanging with naming languages. I figured it would be fun and inspirational to share the naming conventions of our concultures. To begin with, my Akana-based langu...
by CatDoom
Wed Mar 23, 2016 2:27 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Haida and Na-Dene
Replies: 161
Views: 28828

Re: Haida and Na-Dene

One thing, though, that I absolutely have to cling to is how "language" in Haida is "kil". I mean, that's some straight-up Ural-Altaic shit right there; Mongolian "хэл", Finnish "kieli", Estonian "keel", Chuvash "чĕлхе", Kazakh "til", Turkish "dil", etc. I know it's probably a coincidence, but I th...
by CatDoom
Wed Mar 23, 2016 2:01 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Help your conlang fluency (2)
Replies: 6633
Views: 175575

Re: Help your conlang fluency

Nyasroza u su som, bep’au edohecricab nan "Rrom Tim Jehnom." Nyabing fi som lyen na fi som re. [ɲãʐoˈd̪z̪a uˈz̪u s̪õm | pəˈp'ɔː əd̪ohəʈʂʰiˈt̪s̪ʰap̚ nãn rõm t̪ʰĩm tɕəˈn̥õm || ɲãˈbĩŋ fi s̪õm ʎẽn nã fi s̪õm ɻe] I have been working on this language, which is now called "Rrom Tim Jehnom." I like the new...
by CatDoom
Tue Mar 22, 2016 2:21 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Your preferences in morphology and syntax
Replies: 20
Views: 2913

Re: Your preferences in morphology and syntax

It's a fairly specific thing, but I'm not a fan of pronouns with sex-based gender distinctions. It can make referring to non-binary people clumsier than it needs to be, and it provides another way for people to casually disrespect and/or dehumanize trans people. Not that people couldn't do that in a...
by CatDoom
Sun Mar 20, 2016 9:30 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: How to design a non-European phonology
Replies: 622
Views: 100947

Re: How to design a non-European phonology

Just for fun, here's another NatLang: Northern Hmu , a Hmongic language spoken in Guizhou province, China. I'll spare you the full phonology here; as you can see from the link, it's very large. 1. Absence of any phonemic POA for stops further back than velar [half mark for only one stop-POA behind v...
by CatDoom
Sat Mar 19, 2016 3:22 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: How to design a non-European phonology
Replies: 622
Views: 100947

Re: How to design a non-European phonology

Thinking about tinkering with a slightly silly mixed language I've toyed with for a while, so why not subject it to the test ? U Bol /p b t d k g/ /tʃ dʒ/ /s ʃ/ /m n ŋ/ /w l j/ /i iː e eː a aː o oː u uː/ 1. Absence of any phonemic POA for stops further back than velar [half mark for only one stop-PO...
by CatDoom
Sat Mar 19, 2016 12:20 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Origin of retroflex consonants
Replies: 22
Views: 3893

Re: Origin of retroflex consonants

Interdental stops exist? Cool. I thought of using them in a conlang but I was afraid they'd be too weird. Apparently the dental consonants in some Australian languages are pronounced interdentally as well. Some dialects of Mapuche do as well. As far as I know, no language contrasts interdental and ...
by CatDoom
Fri Mar 18, 2016 6:57 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Origin of retroflex consonants
Replies: 22
Views: 3893

Re: Origin of retroflex consonants

A bunch of Californian languages, including Chamariko, Esselen, Obispeño Chumash, the Pomo languages, Salinan, the Yok-Utian family, Yuki, the Yuman langauges, and Wappo contrast front (dental or interdental; occasionally alveolar, usually transcribed as t ) and back (alveolar or postalveolar; usual...
by CatDoom
Tue Mar 15, 2016 1:51 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Sound Change Game
Replies: 2673
Views: 260412

Re: Sound Change Game

Carinnaha nihwokeya [neχwoːkʼeːja] → Proto-Western neγʷawkeyγa [neɣʷawkejɣa] → WIP Western Lang naihwaugīh [ˈnaɪ̯hʷaʊ̯giːh] Carinnaha niqiqegyihikiyeya [neqʼeqʼɛːkjeχekʼijeːja] → Proto-Western neʔeʔekyeγekiyeyγa [neʔeʔekjeɣekijejɣa] → WIP Western Lang nai'a'agyahagiyaih [ˈnaɪ̯ʔaʔagjahagijaɪ̯h] Carin...