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- Thu Nov 05, 2015 9:56 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Hindi verbs and gender agreement
- Replies: 4
- Views: 1991
Re: Hindi verbs and gender agreement
Fascinating points, thanks! I had not considered that a verb could pick up noun morphological categories because it is a reverbalised deverbal. Fiendishly simple! I should have guessed from the presence of the copula.
- Tue Nov 03, 2015 11:26 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Hindi verbs and gender agreement
- Replies: 4
- Views: 1991
Hindi verbs and gender agreement
I don't know much about Hindi, but it's apparent right from the beginning of the Pimsleur recording that Hindi verbs agree with their subject for gender. I found this surprising because—unless I'm having a severe senior moment—there's nothing like that in Sanskrit or any other ancient Indo-European ...
- Fri Oct 16, 2015 12:57 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Spirit-power "Medicine"
- Replies: 8
- Views: 3022
Re: Spirit-power "Medicine"
It would be interesting to know, but difficult to research, where and when exactly this usage originated, whether there was a specific word in a specific language that was calqued as “medicine”, and which other groups of people picked up the same usage before it became a stereotype of “broken” Engli...
- Tue Oct 13, 2015 9:55 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Irish vowels
- Replies: 3
- Views: 2045
Re: Irish vowels
Gaoidhealg is per Wiktionary: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Gaoidhealg ... I don't know how reliable Wiktionary is for this sort of thing. Any guesses how the first syllable of "Gaedhelg" would have been pronounced? The "ae" would have been a digraph representing either a distinctive simple vowel o...
- Mon Oct 12, 2015 2:03 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Irish vowels
- Replies: 3
- Views: 2045
Irish vowels
I can’t figure out whence come the rococo orthographic vowel sequences that are so distinctive of written Irish. For instance, modern Irish “Gaeilge” (“Irish language”), from Early Modern Irish “Gaedhilge”, genitive of “Gaedhealg”. Per Wikipedia, there was some vowel breaking in Old Irish due to met...
- Thu Oct 01, 2015 5:39 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: How common are rhotic approximants?
- Replies: 24
- Views: 6866
Re: How common are rhotic approximants?
I think you mixed up several phenomena: 1) There're 2~3 different <r> in Mandarin, the first is the onset <r->, pronounced [ɻ~ʐ], the second is the rhotic vowel <er>, pronounced [aɻ] in Beijing but [ɚ] in Taipei, the third is the erhua suffix <-r>, pronounced [ɻ] but interacts with the vowel and th...
- Tue Sep 29, 2015 11:31 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: One-syllable words with specific technical or rare meanings
- Replies: 313
- Views: 116371
Re: One-syllable words with specific technical or rare meani
When I saw the subject of this thread, the first thing I thought of was surd, "voiceless consonant".
- Tue Sep 29, 2015 11:29 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: How common are rhotic approximants?
- Replies: 24
- Views: 6866
Re: How common are rhotic approximants?
Mandarin Chinese has a syllable final rhotic that to my ear sounds a lot like /ɹ/ in rhotic English dialects. The Chinese sound is written <r> (as in "Harbin"). On this basis, I've always assumed it is a positional allophone of initial <r>, which is a voiced retroflex sibilant. Wikipedia claims ther...
- Tue Sep 29, 2015 5:19 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Origins of ACC
- Replies: 22
- Views: 6566
Re: Origins of ACC
You can see the process at work in contemporary Spanish. Originally, a personal was only used with human objects (thus the name). It has since spread (optionally) to non-human animates, but the criteria vary by speaker. It seems its most common when the animal is "personalised" in some way (such as...
- Thu Sep 03, 2015 5:30 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Whence Come Voiced Pharyngeal Consonants?
- Replies: 6
- Views: 2371
Re: Whence Come Voiced Pharyngeal Consonants?
One might imagine that pharyngeal consonants could derive from assimilation with pharyngealized vowels. Various phonation effects can be caused by tone, so that might be the ultimate culprit. In my conlang, I once had it that pharyngealized vowels ultimately derive from something like VgV > VɣV > Vʁ...
- Tue Aug 25, 2015 8:43 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: accentology
- Replies: 4
- Views: 1708
Re: accentology
Thanks, Cedh ... tons of fascinating sound changes in there. You're right – very different from Indo-European.
- Sat Aug 22, 2015 2:46 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: accentology
- Replies: 4
- Views: 1708
accentology
Are there are any non-Indo-European languages that have interesting diachronic accentology? I would appreciate links to papers or books that discuss them. It's possible that the answer is no. Complex diacritic weight patterns in non-tonal languages do not strike me as terribly common and, since most...
- Fri Aug 07, 2015 11:45 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Whence aspirated stops and nasal vowels?
- Replies: 70
- Views: 18429
Re: Whence aspirated stops and nasal vowels?
I have looked for these on the wider internet, but not had much luck. I turned up an old paper arguing that aspirated descended from glottalised stops. That may well be one source, but there seem to be quite a few languages around with both. I suppose a language could develop glottalised stops whic...
- Fri Aug 07, 2015 11:36 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Whence aspirated stops and nasal vowels?
- Replies: 70
- Views: 18429
Re: Whence aspirated stops and nasal vowels?
Several languages of New Caledonia have interesting sources of both aspirated stops and nasal vowels. Aspirated stops often derive from geminates, e.g. Pwapwâ tʰai < *ssa-i < *sasa-i. Vowels seem to nasalize out of nowhere sometimes, while other times they come from oral vowels adjacent to nasals, ...
- Fri Aug 07, 2015 11:34 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Whence aspirated stops and nasal vowels?
- Replies: 70
- Views: 18429
Re: Whence aspirated stops and nasal vowels?
yep -- mostly an areal feature of East Asia. most extensive in Tibetan (esp. Cone) but also present in Burmese, Korean, some Hmongic, and dialects of Pumi. generally not used in conlangs, along with all the other weird shit in East Asia. also appears in some American langs. Mongolic and Armenian oc...
- Fri May 08, 2015 8:14 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Longest Word In Your Conlang
- Replies: 33
- Views: 14783
Re: Longest Word In Your Conlang
I've probably made longer words than this a few times, and I could certainly use incorporation to make very long spot coinages, but a personal favorite that comes to mind is wõgàʻạȟịmúyami [wʊ̃ˌgɑʔɑ̰xḭˈmujəmi] "How about you come with and smoke weed?" (phrased as a suggestion, not a question, natura...
- Thu Jan 01, 2015 5:01 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Lexember 2014
- Replies: 93
- Views: 18932
Re: Lexember 2014
Great job this year, HB! I really enjoyed reading your oft-fanciful example sentences.Haloed Bane wrote: Happy New Year~ (Grond morvune!!)
- Thu Jan 01, 2015 2:25 am
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Lexember 2014
- Replies: 93
- Views: 18932
Re: Lexember 2014
Lexember day 31 two words today: žaváy [ʒəˈvɑj] RA (rectus) žavúd- [ʒəˈvud] RA (contstruct) -žvad- [ʒvɑd] A, -žavad- RA [ʒəvɑd] (combining) noun: year, spring vĩ́ [vĩ] N (adjective, status) vín- [vin] N (aorist) víni- [vinɨ] NR (irrealis) -vin- [vin] N (combining) noun: new, recently occurring, ( of...
- Wed Dec 31, 2014 1:17 am
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Lexember 2014
- Replies: 93
- Views: 18932
Re: Lexember 2014
Lexember day 30
ráwe [ˈrɑwe̝] NN (adjective, essence)
rámyu [ˈrɑmju] NR (adjective, status)
ráwe- [ˈrɑwɨ] NN (aorist)
rắwe- [ˈrəwɨ] NN (irrealis)
-ram- [rɑm] N
stative verb: to be other, to be distinctive, to be unfamiliar
ráwe [ˈrɑwe̝] NN (adjective, essence)
rámyu [ˈrɑmju] NR (adjective, status)
ráwe- [ˈrɑwɨ] NN (aorist)
rắwe- [ˈrəwɨ] NN (irrealis)
-ram- [rɑm] N
stative verb: to be other, to be distinctive, to be unfamiliar
- Tue Dec 30, 2014 1:40 am
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Lexember 2014
- Replies: 93
- Views: 18932
Re: Lexember 2014
Lexember day 29
čö̃́ [t͡ʃø̃] A (adjective, essence)
čö́ñu [ˈt͡ʃøɲu] AN (adjective, status)
čö́ñ- [t͡ʃøɲ] A (aorist)
šö́ñi- [ˈʃøɲi] AR (irrealis)
-čañ- [t͡ʃɑɲ] A (combining)
stative verb: to be empty
čö̃́ [t͡ʃø̃] A (adjective, essence)
čö́ñu [ˈt͡ʃøɲu] AN (adjective, status)
čö́ñ- [t͡ʃøɲ] A (aorist)
šö́ñi- [ˈʃøɲi] AR (irrealis)
-čañ- [t͡ʃɑɲ] A (combining)
stative verb: to be empty
- Mon Dec 29, 2014 12:52 am
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Lexember 2014
- Replies: 93
- Views: 18932
Re: Lexember 2014
Lexember day 28
bṍ [bõ] A (adjective, essence)
bónu [ˈbonu] AN (adjective, status)
bón- [bon] A (aorist)
móni- [ˈmoni] AR (irrealis)
-bon- [bon] A (combining)
stative verb: to be full, to be satisfying, to be delicious or desirable
bṍ [bõ] A (adjective, essence)
bónu [ˈbonu] AN (adjective, status)
bón- [bon] A (aorist)
móni- [ˈmoni] AR (irrealis)
-bon- [bon] A (combining)
stative verb: to be full, to be satisfying, to be delicious or desirable
- Sun Dec 28, 2014 2:20 am
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Lexember 2014
- Replies: 93
- Views: 18932
Re: Lexember 2014
Lexember day 27
váy [vɑj] N (adjective, status)
vád- [vɑd] N (aorist)
vúji- [ˈvud͡ʒi] NR (irrealis)
-vači- [vɑt͡ʃi] AN (combining)
stative verb: to be on fire, burn (intransitive)
váy [vɑj] N (adjective, status)
vád- [vɑd] N (aorist)
vúji- [ˈvud͡ʒi] NR (irrealis)
-vači- [vɑt͡ʃi] AN (combining)
stative verb: to be on fire, burn (intransitive)
- Fri Dec 26, 2014 7:31 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Lexember 2014
- Replies: 93
- Views: 18932
Re: Lexember 2014
Lexember day 26
dö́ʻ [døʔ] N (rectus)
döʻá [dɵˈʔɑ̰] RN, döʻ- R (construct)
-dö-, -döʻ- N (combining)
noun: snow
dö́ʻ [døʔ] N (rectus)
döʻá [dɵˈʔɑ̰] RN, döʻ- R (construct)
-dö-, -döʻ- N (combining)
noun: snow
- Fri Dec 26, 2014 3:04 am
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Lexember 2014
- Replies: 93
- Views: 18932
Re: Lexember 2014
Lexember day 25
ňímu [ˈŋimu] NR (rectus)
ňimú [ŋɨˈmu] NA (construct)
-len- [len] A (combining)
noun: a child (immature human being at any age too young to be considered a social adult)
ňímu [ˈŋimu] NR (rectus)
ňimú [ŋɨˈmu] NA (construct)
-len- [len] A (combining)
noun: a child (immature human being at any age too young to be considered a social adult)
- Thu Dec 25, 2014 3:36 am
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Lexember 2014
- Replies: 93
- Views: 18932
Re: Lexember 2014
Lexember day 24
lúš [luʃ] N (infinitive)
lú-š- [lu ʃ] N (aorist)
lắ-š- [lə ʃ] N (perfecive)
láwi-š- [ˈlɑwɨ ʃ] AN (irrealis)
lám- [lɑm] N (potential)
eventive verb: (intransitive) to play, (transitive) to think about repetitively, to ruminate about
lúš [luʃ] N (infinitive)
lú-š- [lu ʃ] N (aorist)
lắ-š- [lə ʃ] N (perfecive)
láwi-š- [ˈlɑwɨ ʃ] AN (irrealis)
lám- [lɑm] N (potential)
eventive verb: (intransitive) to play, (transitive) to think about repetitively, to ruminate about