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Ugly?! Nkuhthiikhnii lintaai thai tlaunkiii thnkuhaunkuaunkjnjii a thaunkuiai traunkuhniii tthau ntau ntuuthtauinauthkii a kutlaankuh. Thauu nantaanii raunthunuainu a thnkuhiaintaunuiinu a nuaiii thkuaulu iaintnat nkuh ntukhu nkutlattlthtnkuhii. I think it looks beautiful. Nothing like it sounds and...

Perhaps if the z~s contrast had a much higher functional load than the other contrasts?

Vą̈i-rŵng-tẏ̨: Concentrate: krǒu-ngārę̂u 'to point/orient the mind/will' from krǒu: (vb) to point, direct, orient (an object toward a certain direction) ngārę̂u: bound form of ngę̂u: (n) the entity responsible for conscious processes in a human, and/or such processes: mind, will, spirit The bound f...

Oddly, poor/pour is the only pair I sometimes merge (as pour), despite growing up in Yorkshire. Although I'm half Scottish, which maybe explains it - my moor is like [mu:r], not like more [mɔːr]

I was referring to what Radagast said I mean that is has a lot of redundancy in that it double marks all grammatical relations (both syntactically and morphologically), which in a natural language would very likely be unstable if spoken over time - particularly with the exotic choice of OVS order wh...

Shm Jay wrote:I like the idea of the Five Women of Duran Duran. It sounds like a lost Bertolt Brecht play.

I only just saw this. Awesome

I meant optional in the word structure - some words in the language end in a consonant, some don't. Not the same word

I meant how 1st person surfeit would even be possible... suppose something like " the overwhelming amount of us agree that..." I know what 1st person is thank you... I didn't read the second line as being connected to the previous one; I was a little surprised! Although, yes, I guess that's what a ...

Perhaps I should have said it explicitly, but the answer to your question about worrying about consistent meanings for noun patterns, is that you don't need to think about it: make words in the parent language, apply the deletion rules, and coherent patterns to the consonant-vowel templates will app...

Ahzoh wrote:...
The pronouns Qar and Šūn are for the 2nd and 3rd person respectively, they are also neuter. There's no 1st person, I don't even know what that would be.

1st person = I, we
2nd person = you
3rd person = he, she, it, they

Someone had told me that all stems must be productive, I feel that I have to have "safet" and "nahet" be of related meaning due to the fact that they share CaCeC, so one cannot be car and the other an abstract mathmatical concept... and that stresses me out because then I have to think of the most ...

As far as I can tell, the general consensus is that SO is preferred over OS because there's a general preference for topic-comment order - ie old info first, new info last - and S is the grammatical role most often associated with topic and so the order gets interpreted as being S first. I could buy...

Can't think of an example, but having plain stops and some form of sonorants (eg nasals) is very common - you could justify it by a sound change from that? Maybe final sonorants devoice and disappear, or vocalise further.

Click wrote:Vạın-Ruâq-Toȧn

Dotless i is a good idea - I was wondering about what to do with i and an overdot. An i with two dots looks silly

Radagast revived wrote: a cognitively disfunctional syntax which seems to be likely to be typologically unstable.

What exactly do you mean?

Nortaneous wrote: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 <b x 0 d l v t>

Oh, the horror!

This describes contour tones on monosyllables in Usila Chinantec- at least 31 and 34. This source also says that in apparent 5 level tone systems, some of the level tones always have contour realisations, as in Gaoba Dong. It mentions Trique specifically its two highest 'level' tones actually rise ...

/vã6i-rɯ5ŋ-tɤ̃6/ <Vạin-Rững-Tợn> / m bro2r ðe3 na1or nu4f nɤ4m n drha5ɤf kro6i ðe3ŋ ra3ɤ ka6us trha3ɤm prha7ɤ ndra7ɯm tɯ1 vã6i-rɯ5ŋ-tɤ̃6/ Bròr đè naor nủf nởm drhãơf krọi đèng ràơ kạus trhàơm prhaơc draưmc* tư Vạin-Rững-Tợn. *I'm a little confused by this syllable, since you say that checked-tone s...

the pitch differences are very small, and I'd be surprised if the contrast of a 11 tone followed by a 55 tone and a 11 tone followed by a 44 tone would be reliably perceived by listeners. Tone numbers do not describe absolute pitches. They describe pitches in the context of each other. I know that ...

My updated phonology for Proto-Oeg: .... Tones: 5 level tones; toneless words take the previous word's tone That strikes me as a little unrealistic (and possibly impossible). AFAICR, no natlangs distinguish this many level tones. Many natlangs have a 5 level system, but that means that the various ...

Well there's no reason for the converse to be true - the theory is that simple simple syllable structure prevents the consonant inventory from growing by providing fewer environments (fewer clusters) for new consonant distinctions to form, so consonant inventories of any size should be stable when c...

it is. but it can be written in just about anything, including Yi: ꀍꌋꄻꀂꄌꀊꄻꀂ ꀊꃰꇤꃬ ꀂꀊꃬ ꀑꅆꀕꀠꃨꀂꄿ ꄌꀑꀠꌋꃨꀂꄿ uosiddieiduoaddiei avogava iava oddowbavieidda duoobasivieidda or Fraser: ꓳꓢꓲꓣꓰꓲꓔꓳꓮꓣꓰꓲ ꓮꓪꓴꓗꓪ ꓲꓮꓪ ꓴꓣꓴꓣꓴꓑꓪꓲꓣꓮ ꓔꓳꓴꓑꓢꓲꓪꓰꓲꓣ In that case, (and stretching the definition of 'romanisation' quite a lot) her...

I just downloaded the mac version from the link in your sig, but it doesn't work. Is there one compatible with the newer operating systems?

Forgot to ask this, but what does Vą̈i-rŵng-tẏ̨ (the language, not the word) remind/make you think of? Where would you imagine it spoken?

That is not really a challenge :-D Rotokas /p t k β r ɣ a e o i u/ p t k v r g a e i o u except /ti/ [si] si otireitoarei aβukaβa iaβa ururupaβira toupatiβeir osireitoarei avukava iava ururupavira toupasiveir If that's not the official orthography already I'll be surprised I guess b for /β/ would al...