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by StrangerCoug
Tue Mar 08, 2016 1:56 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Game: Let's Reform English
Replies: 339
Views: 98092

Re: Game: Let's Reform English

Contrastive stress is lost. Word-initial geminate stops degeminate. <are> regularizes to /ə/. Nasal consonants cause a preceding vowel to be nasalized, then nasal consonants elide when not before a vowel. /xw/ :> /f/ /my fɛt͡sə̃ əɾ ə ʏ naːh fɪkːɪ̃ əː jə fũ fə ɛ̃niwə̃ wə tɪt ʏ kəː fələ yteː t͡ʃəs tʏ...
by StrangerCoug
Mon Mar 07, 2016 3:15 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Game: Let's Reform English
Replies: 339
Views: 98092

Re: Game: Let's Reform English

/ɛʏ jʏ/ :> /œʏ ɥʏ/. (Only awake enough to come up with one sound change right now.) /ˌmɔɪ ˈkʰwɛstən əz ˌə ˈɥʏ ˌnɑt̚ ˈpʰɪkɪŋ ˈʌp̚ jə ˈfun fə ˈɛniˌwʌn ʊə dɪd ˈɥʏ ɡət̚ ˈkʰʊələ ˈɔɪˈdeɪ d͡ʒəs ˌtʏ əˈvəɪd meɪ? ʊə ˌə ɥʏ ˈskɹeɪnɪŋ? œə ˈɥʏ ˈlɪsənɪŋ tə ˈmeɪ, ˈɹɔɪt̚ ˈnœʏ? pʰɪk̚ ˈʌp̚ də ˈfun, ˈɛmə. ˈdɪs ɪz jə ˈd...
by StrangerCoug
Mon Mar 07, 2016 2:20 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Game: Let's Reform English
Replies: 339
Views: 98092

Re: Game: Let's Reform English

That's more than enough :P /ˌmaɪ ˈkʰwɛst͡ʃən əz ˌɚ ˈjʊ ˌnɑt ˈpʰɪkɪŋ ˈʌp jɚ ˈfoʊn fɚ ˈɛniˌwʌn ɔ˞ dɪd ˈjʊ ɡɨt ˈkʰɔlɚ ˈaɪˈdiː d͡ʒəst ˌtʊ əˈvɔɪd miː? ɔ˞ ˌɚ jʊ ˈskɹiːnɪŋ? ɑ˞ ˈjʊ ˈlɪsənɪŋ tə ˈmiː, ˈɹaɪt ˈnaʊ? pʰɪk ˈʌp ðə ˈfoʊn, ˈɛmə. ˈðɪs ɪz jɚ ˈdæd ənd ˌjʊɚ ˈhɝɾɪŋ miː ə ˈlɑt. ˈpʰliːz pʰɪk ˈʌp ðə ˈfoʊn./ ...
by StrangerCoug
Fri Mar 04, 2016 5:41 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Game: Let's Reform English
Replies: 339
Views: 98092

Re: Game: Let's Reform English

Retroactive correction of an /n/ that failed to elide despite no following vowel. /ə̆ ɜ̆/ merge and raise to /ɨ̆/. /ɨ̆j ɨ̆w/ :> /ɨ ʉ/ /tl/ :> /tl/ Unless before a vowel: /ɨ̆ɾ ɔːɾ/ :> /ɨ ɔː/ Remaining postvocalic /ɾ/ :> /ː/ [*]/a ɛ/ :> /æ e/ before /j/ [*]/æj ej ow/ :> /æː eː oː/ EXCEPT before a vow...
by StrangerCoug
Fri Mar 04, 2016 12:48 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 2827
Views: 704655

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

Is /ʀ/ :> /ɣ/ :> /ɰ/ attested?
by StrangerCoug
Sun Feb 28, 2016 12:11 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Unpredictable placename pronunciations
Replies: 25
Views: 6856

Re: Unpredictable placename pronunciations

That has to be it.
by StrangerCoug
Sun Feb 28, 2016 11:59 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlearn
Replies: 669
Views: 181066

Re: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlea

Thought of another one I was guilty of: pronouncing <olive> to rhyme with <alive>. My family teased me about that one.
by StrangerCoug
Sun Feb 28, 2016 11:52 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Unpredictable placename pronunciations
Replies: 25
Views: 6856

Re: Unpredictable placename pronunciations

The first syllable of "Staunton" has the same vowel as "pan". They do for me as well. I think of /æ/ as being the vowel in <cat> which is not the same as that in <pan, Staunton> at least for me. Maybe I'm a bit off my rocker -- checking the vowels on the wiktionary entries -- both transcribed as si...
by StrangerCoug
Sat Feb 27, 2016 4:03 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Unpredictable placename pronunciations
Replies: 25
Views: 6856

Re: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlea

But how about some from around my part of the country? [Well, not really, but near enough for me to know] Well... Here are my attempts. Watch me fail miserably :P Wrotham: /ˈɹɔθ.m̩/ Meopham /ˈmeɪ.joʊ.ˌfam/ Vigo: /ˈviː.ˌɡoʊ/ Mereworth: /mɛɚ.wɔ˞θ/ Trottiscliffe: /ˈtʰɹɔt.ɪs.ˌklif/ Capel-le-Ferne: /kə....
by StrangerCoug
Sat Feb 27, 2016 9:39 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlearn
Replies: 669
Views: 181066

Re: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlea

"Edinburgh", which I originally thought was pronounced "Eden-berg". Welcome to the quagmire of British place names. How d'you think Leicester and Worcester are pronounced, without googling? /ˈlaɪ.ses.tɚ/ and /ˈwɚ.stɚ/ respectively (though I can see a /ˈwɚ.ses.tɚ/ mispronunciation). I always make a ...
by StrangerCoug
Fri Feb 26, 2016 8:04 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlearn
Replies: 669
Views: 181066

Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlearn

Are there any words that you know you tend to pronounce wrong (that can't be explained by a foreign accent) but do that way anyway out of habit? Here are a few of mine: The only one coming to my mind that isn't a place name: the English word "meme". I'm largely unused to /iːm/ being spelled <eme> at...
by StrangerCoug
Tue Feb 23, 2016 1:51 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Game: Let's Reform English
Replies: 339
Views: 98092

Re: Game: Let's Reform English

V² :> Vː VN :> Ṽ, then nasal consonants elide EXCEPT before a vowel, even if it's in the next word (though the exception does not apply if a pause intervenes). Word-final obstruents devoice. t d k g :> t͡s d͡z t͡ʃ d͡ʒ / _[ɪ i] /ˈɔːɾ ˈfɑtɑɾ u ɑɾt ɪ̃n ˈɛvɛ̃, ˈæloʊt bi taɪ neɪ̃. taɪ ˈt͡ʃɪ̃d͡zɪ̃ kʌ̃. t...
by StrangerCoug
Fri Feb 19, 2016 1:12 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 2827
Views: 704655

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

KathTheDragon wrote:
Chengjiang wrote:
KathTheDragon wrote:Is *V *Vh > Ø V plausible? V can be any vowel, long or short.
Depends. Are you saying that every single vowel that isn't followed by a [h] is lost? If so, I'd say that strains credibility. But maybe you mean something less sweeping.
Oh, sorry, yes, I meant to say word-finally.
I can buy that.
by StrangerCoug
Wed Feb 17, 2016 1:31 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Grammaticalization Quickie Thread
Replies: 94
Views: 42752

Re: Grammaticalization Quickie Thread

This is turning to be less of a quickie than I thought xD
hwhatting wrote:in generally, the past tense tends to show more granular distinctions than the past or the future tense,
Now I'M the one thrown for a loop! How can a feature have more granular distinctions than itself?
by StrangerCoug
Tue Feb 16, 2016 4:11 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Game: Let's Reform English
Replies: 339
Views: 98092

Re: Game: Let's Reform English

...Well, that was quick xD
by StrangerCoug
Tue Feb 16, 2016 4:08 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Grammaticalization Quickie Thread
Replies: 94
Views: 42752

Re: Grammaticalization Quickie Thread

Retrospective is what they calls "perfect" (They did not invent this usage, it is mentioned in the wikipedia article on the perfect aspect). I got that, but in that case "Perfective would be the opposite of retrospective, as expected" doesn't make sense. It makes. You just have to realize it's actu...
by StrangerCoug
Mon Feb 15, 2016 11:13 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Game: Let's Reform English
Replies: 339
Views: 98092

Re: Game: Let's Reform English

ɸ β :> f v Rhoticity is lost, leaving length in its place. m̩ n̩ :> mɐ nɐ /ˈkʰɑːŋəɹəs ˈʃəl ˌmeːk ˈnoː ˌlɔ ɹiˈspektiːŋ niˈstɛvəliʃmnɐt əv ɹiˈlid͡ʒnɐ, ɔː pʰəɹoːˈhivəθiːŋ ðə ˈfəɹiː ˈekʃəːˌseːz ˌðeˈɹav; ɔː əˈvəɹiʒiːŋ ðə ˈfəɹiːdmɐ əv ˈspiːt͡ʃ, ɔː əv ðə ˈpəɹes; ɔː ðə ˈɹeːt əv ðə ˈpʰifələ ˈpʰiːsəvəli tu ə...
by StrangerCoug
Mon Feb 15, 2016 10:42 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Grammaticalization Quickie Thread
Replies: 94
Views: 42752

Re: Grammaticalization Quickie Thread

1) 1st inclusive / exclusive makes only sense for non-singular, as the distinction implies a group. Kinda what I was getting at with the simplification. 2) Can you explain what the prospective / retrospective do? If they mean what the labels say and are distinct from future / past, they're relative...
by StrangerCoug
Sun Feb 14, 2016 12:23 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 2827
Views: 704655

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

TinyMusic wrote:Is this attested? If not, is it possible?:
θ -> kʲ
ð -> gʲ
The way I see this happening is to fortite /θ ð/ to /t d/ and go from there, possibly after getting ideas from Hawaiian (which had t :> k).
by StrangerCoug
Sun Feb 14, 2016 11:50 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Grammaticalization Quickie Thread
Replies: 94
Views: 42752

Re: Grammaticalization Quickie Thread

I accidentally reversed the imperfective and perfective in the charts (it's the latter, not the former, that's unmarked)—will get to them—but I like your ideas for the most part. I thought of a further simplification: Is it really that useful to distinguish aspect in the infinitive? I don't see many...
by StrangerCoug
Sat Feb 13, 2016 11:31 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Grammaticalization Quickie Thread
Replies: 94
Views: 42752

Re: Grammaticalization Quickie Thread

OK, I think I'm going to need some help here. Here's what the slots look like for the finite forms of the verbs: http://i.imgur.com/SkXizEZ.png Every combination of the above is theoretically legal—all 768. Only the root slot (obviously) and the person slot have to be filled; if the slots to their r...
by StrangerCoug
Sat Feb 13, 2016 7:35 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Grammaticalization Quickie Thread
Replies: 94
Views: 42752

Re: Grammaticalization Quickie Thread

When you're dealing with an agglutinative language (well... one you're trying to turn into a fusional language via sound change, anyway), what correlation is there between how often forms of a word are used and how likely they are to survive? I've managed to create a verbal system for such a languag...
by StrangerCoug
Mon Feb 08, 2016 10:18 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Game: Let's Reform English
Replies: 339
Views: 98092

Re: Game: Let's Reform English

OK, it's getting a bit strained now. Let's start anew... /ˈkʰɑŋɡɹəs ˈʃəl ˌmeɪk ˈnoʊ ˌlɔ ɹiˈspɛktɪŋ nɪˈstæblɪʃmn̩t əv ɹɪˈlɪd͡ʒn̩, ɔ˞ pʰɹoʊˈhɪbətɪŋ ðə ˈfɹiː ˈɛksɚˌsaɪz ˌðɛˈɹʌv; ɔ˞ əˈbɹɪd͡ʒɪŋ ðə ˈfɹiːdm̩ əv ˈspiːt͡ʃ, ɔ˞ əv ðə ˈpɹɛs; ɔ˞ ðə ˈɹaɪt əv ðə ˈpʰipl̩ ˈpʰiːsəbli tʊ əˈsɛmbl̩, n̩d tə pəˈtɪʃn̩ ðə ˈ...
by StrangerCoug
Sun Feb 07, 2016 7:46 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Game: Let's Reform English
Replies: 339
Views: 98092

Re: Game: Let's Reform English

Maybe... Register tone develops: ʔ :> ˥ / _$ s ʃ :> ˩ / _$ All other syllables are given mid tone, ˧. The pronunciation of <is> is regularized to /ɑ˞˧/ in order to preserve it. b d g :> p t k _$ Voiced stops before a voiceless consonant in the same syllable become voiceless. /di˩ fɜ˧du˧wɜ˧ i˧wi˧ sɔ...
by StrangerCoug
Sat Feb 06, 2016 6:30 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Game: Let's Reform English
Replies: 339
Views: 98092

Re: Game: Let's Reform English

More retroactive corrections... I'm sloppy :( Syllabic /r/ :> /ɝ/ /ɜr/ :> /ɝ/ /ɹ/ :> /w/, then /ww/ :> /vw/, then /pv/ :> /bv/ /iw/ :> /ju/ /tʃ dʒ/ :> /ʃ ʒ/ Contrastive stress is lost. /dis fɜ.du.wɜ i.wi sʌw bvwæd.li ɜ.pwʌ mi.hid ɝ mu dɜ ʒɜsʔ ɜ pɜs ɜb klæ.si hid.wi, iʔ sɪ.bɜ.li.rɝ mi.jɪ.ti.lɜ.ʒɜs ɜ...