Search found 269 matches
- Sat Jul 29, 2017 8:29 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
- Replies: 2827
- Views: 634652
Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Other than the line where you have a sound changing to itself (k/k/#_), they're changes I buy.
- Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:08 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlearn
- Replies: 669
- Views: 159967
Re: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlea
Yeah. As an American, I find using <r> to transcribe a long vowel misleading, since my idiolect is rhotic.Travis B. wrote:Yes, but us Americans don't think "ar" when we hear /ɑː/.
Edit: Deleted the second line of Travis's post in the quote so mine wouldn't be misinterpreted as an answer to his question.
- Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:45 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlearn
- Replies: 669
- Views: 159967
Re: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlea
This was on my homepage, and according to it, I'm guilty of mispronouncing almond , cache (which I swear I've posted in here about before), picture , and quinoa (in my head), all with the mispronunciations given. (I wasn't familiar enough with the word turmeric to judge myself on how I pronounce it.)
- Thu Jun 08, 2017 12:26 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Grammaticalization Quickie Thread
- Replies: 94
- Views: 39930
Re: Grammaticalization Quickie Thread
How common is a combined imperative/cohortative/jussive mood?
- Tue May 09, 2017 5:59 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
- Replies: 2827
- Views: 634652
Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Suppose syllable-initial obstruents can optionally be followed by /ʔ/ or /h/. If /Zʔ Zh/, where Z is a voiced obstruent, develop into a slack-stiff contrast /Z̬ Z̥/, then: Is it plausible for /Z/ not followed by /ʔ h/ to devoice? What can I do with /S Sʔ Sh/ (where S is a voiceless obstruent) besid...
- Thu May 04, 2017 8:15 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlearn
- Replies: 669
- Views: 159967
Re: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlea
Interestingly, that link suggests long o in 'bolt' and 'polka', but that's wrong, as the wiktionary entries for those words shows (although it does give both options for 'bolt'). I might sometimes have a long O in 'bolt', but I think that's just non-SSBE parental influence showing through. I have i...
- Wed May 03, 2017 10:10 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
- Replies: 2827
- Views: 634652
Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Suppose syllable-initial obstruents can optionally be followed by /ʔ/ or /h/. If /Zʔ Zh/, where Z is a voiced obstruent, develop into a slack-stiff contrast /Z̬ Z̥/, then: Is it plausible for /Z/ not followed by /ʔ h/ to devoice? What can I do with /S Sʔ Sh/ (where S is a voiceless obstruent) beside...
- Sat Apr 29, 2017 1:43 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlearn
- Replies: 669
- Views: 159967
Re: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlea
Interestingly, that link suggests long o in 'bolt' and 'polka', but that's wrong, as the wiktionary entries for those words shows (although it does give both options for 'bolt'). I might sometimes have a long O in 'bolt', but I think that's just non-SSBE parental influence showing through. I have i...
- Fri Mar 31, 2017 9:58 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Game: Let's Reform English
- Replies: 339
- Views: 89290
Re: Game: Let's Reform English
...Yeah
- Thu Mar 23, 2017 6:53 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlearn
- Replies: 669
- Views: 159967
Re: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlea
I think stress and prosody are particularly important in proper names. This alone is enough for me to misinterpret them at times. (Think of the difference between Daniel and Danielle for instance.) Ditto. Stressing the wrong syllable in a person's name has led me to have difficulty understanding wh...
- Sat Mar 18, 2017 7:21 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Game: Let's Reform English
- Replies: 339
- Views: 89290
Re: Game: Let's Reform English
Reverted an /h/ that became /ʔ/ despite being word-initial. β :> v k ɡ h :> c ɟ ç before front vowels h :> x otherwise w j :> v ʝ [æ xol çøʔ ˈɣotɯn sɯ dɯ lævɑ ɯʔ dɯ çøʔ u dɯ ˈtiɲɔʔ u ˈɾiɲɑn ɯʔ dɯ ˈxɔzɯl u dɯ fæv ˈxɔdɑʔ | ɯʔ xɯˈzæn ˈmæɑ ˈɡɔʔ xoʔ dɑ nø lævɑ væ dɯ møʔ çɯʔ ˌɔtɯˈçtætɯn | ɯʔ f dɯ seʔ u ˈ...
- Mon Mar 13, 2017 6:46 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Game: Let's Reform English
- Replies: 339
- Views: 89290
Re: Game: Let's Reform English
Affricates deaffricate. Series of two different consonants (counting syllabic consonants) of the same manner of articulation become a geminate of the second. Word-finally, /t/ becomes /ʔ/ and /f s ʃ x/ all debuccalize to /h/. ɪɛ̯ ʏœ̯ :> jɛ ɥœ [ɛ hol høh ˈɣoːtn̩ sə də lɛwa ə̃ʔ də høh u də ˈtiɲɔh u ˈ...
- Mon Mar 13, 2017 12:59 am
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Game: Let's Reform English
- Replies: 339
- Views: 89290
Re: Game: Let's Reform English
/m n ŋ/ cause the preceding vowel to nasalize; they then drop when not before a vowel or semivowel. (Syllabic nasal consonants are perceived as becoming /ə̃/ for the purpose of this rule.) j w :> ʲ ʷ / _V EXCEPT $_V [ɛ wəl vɛus əˈxoːtə̃ t͡sə də lɔˤː ə̃t də vɛut͡s əv də ˈtĩːmɔs əv əˈdĩːnʲɐ̃ˤ ə̃t də ...
- Mon Mar 06, 2017 7:39 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Standard Average You
- Replies: 33
- Views: 12459
Re: Standard Average You
Makes me think your conworld's inhabitants are going to have an easier time with computer science than Earthlings xDChuma wrote:- Always base 16. It's the best base.
- Sat Mar 04, 2017 1:22 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlearn
- Replies: 669
- Views: 159967
Re: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlea
As a result, German /eː/ often ends up sounding like [iː] to me. Does to me, too, which is why my ears find the "E wie Emil" and the "I wie Ida" useful disambiguations. But couldn't the former end up sounding like " I wie Em i l"? Yes, but I got "E wie Emil" and "I wie Ida" from the German version ...
- Fri Mar 03, 2017 11:55 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlearn
- Replies: 669
- Views: 159967
Re: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlea
Does to me, too, which is why my ears find the "E wie Emil" and the "I wie Ida" useful disambiguations.linguoboy wrote:As a result, German /eː/ often ends up sounding like [iː] to me.
- Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:55 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
- Replies: 3108
- Views: 672689
Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
Are there any other American English speakers here that don't Anglicize <niche>? I hear /nɪtʃ/ a lot, but my familiarity with French and the fact that <-iche> doesn't usually get pronounced /-ɪtʃ/ as far as I know lead me to pronouce it /niːʃ/, which I've read is the usual Canadian pronunciation.
- Sun Feb 05, 2017 2:11 am
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Game: Let's Reform English
- Replies: 339
- Views: 89290
Re: Game: Let's Reform English
I presume it's because we do not change it every single time. The historians conclude that /fæktɚiː/ instead of /fæktəɹiː/ for <factory> at the beginning is an unexpected change in the history of English (i.e., I'm letting it stand since so many changes have occurred already even though it's an ackn...
- Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:08 am
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Game: Let's Reform English
- Replies: 339
- Views: 89290
Re: Game: Let's Reform English
/r/ at the end of a word after a consonant becomes perceived as syllabic. ə :> Ø / VC_CV The following assimilations occur EXCEPT across word boundaries: Nasals assimilate in place of articulation to the following consonant. Voiceless obstruents voice before a voiced consonant. (I don't think this ...
- Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:10 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Game: Let's Reform English
- Replies: 339
- Views: 89290
Re: Game: Let's Reform English
OK, new statement time, I think. [ɪts ˈɡʊd tə ˌbiː ˈhoʊm ‖ maɪ ˈfɛloʊ əˈmɛɹɨkn̩z | mɪˈʃɛl ənd ˈaɪ həv ˌbɨn ˈsoʊ ˈtʰʌt͡ʃt baɪ ˈɔːl ðə ˈwɛlˌwɪʃɪz ˌwiːv ɹɨˈsiːvd ˈoʊvɚ ðə ˈpʰæst fjuː ˈwiːks ‖ ˌbət tʰəˈnaɪt ɪts ˈmaɪ ˌtʰɝn tə ˌseɪ ˈθæŋks ‖ ˈwɛðɚ wiːv ˈsiːn ˌaɪ tuː ˈaɪ ɔ˞ ˈɹɛɚliː əˈɡɹiːd ət ˈɔːl | maɪ ˌkɑ...
- Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:01 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlearn
- Replies: 669
- Views: 159967
Re: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlea
Yeah, you're right, but there are so many people who struggle with initial /ts/ or /ŋ/ despite having no problems at all saying "pizza" or "singer". I sometimes like to pronounce initial /n/s in English as [ŋ] just to see if people ngotice. It often baffles me that so many people have problems putt...
- Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:03 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Game: Let's Reform English
- Replies: 339
- Views: 89290
Re: Game: Let's Reform English
/ɾ̥ ɾ/ metathesize with adjacent consonants so they're next to vowels; any /ɾ̥ ɾ/ that still are not next to a vowel get an epenthetic /ə/ after them. /dz/ is reinterpreted as an affricate. /ks/ becomes /k͡x/. /ʕ/ vocalizes to /ɑ/. [ləˈbəsɾ̥ək͡x əz ɾə sajəˈɾ̥əfək ˈsɾ̥əɾi əv ˈliəbəd͡z ‖ ɾəɑ əɑ tɑi ˈ...
- Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:21 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Looking for a certain IPA keyboard
- Replies: 10
- Views: 3966
Re: Looking for a certain IPA keyboard
Speaking of IPA, does anyone know of a better version of the English-International keyboard? One that has all the Latin letter variants? I'm not satisfied with just á à ä â ã å æ, I'd like to see ă ā ą as well if there is enough room? Also for consonants. I'm tired of having like 10 different keybo...
- Thu Jan 19, 2017 8:32 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
- Replies: 2827
- Views: 634652
Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Fronting of velars to alveolars of some description, and uvulars to velars could then phonemicise the front/back distinction leaving me with /i iː ɪ u uː ʊ e eː ɛ o oː ɔ a aː (ə or ʌ)/ which would then probably be unstable as hell thanks to the 5-way height contrast. Thoughts? Based on English, I d...
- Thu Dec 15, 2016 2:07 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
- Replies: 2827
- Views: 634652
Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread
What are interesting things I can do to glottalic consonants besides just merging them into their pulmonic counterparts? (I'm already aware of /s’/'s tendency to want to become /t͡s’/.)