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by StrangerCoug
Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:38 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 2827
Views: 613756

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

I like the first line, and I'm hard-pressed to come up with a reason to reject the rest.
by StrangerCoug
Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:07 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 2827
Views: 613756

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

Is it plausible to split a uvular series off from a velar series? If so, how?
by StrangerCoug
Mon Feb 26, 2018 11:32 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 2827
Views: 613756

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

I have a conlang which contrasts /ɹ̥ ɹ r̥ r l̥ l/, but only syllable-initially and after /s/ (which doesn't have a phonemic voicing contrast, but /sɹ̥ sɹ sr̥ sr sl̥ sl/ :> [sɹ̥ zɹ sr̥ zr sl̥ zl] phonetically). What are some interesting things I can do with the voiceless liquids besides just merging ...
by StrangerCoug
Sat Jan 27, 2018 4:41 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 2827
Views: 613756

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

Second the idea that Greek "balsam" must necessarily represent a lateral fricative is stupid: it's cognate with Arabic /basam/ "pleasantness", a correspondence which gives Proto-Semitic *š rather that *ś, so it should have therefore been /ʃ/ in Hebrew as well which was just badly transcribed becaus...
by StrangerCoug
Tue Jan 09, 2018 3:34 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Your first conscript
Replies: 14
Views: 6489

Re: Your first conscript

Hoo boy. I don't remember my first conscript anymore, but I remember my introduction to conlanging being an appendix to The Lord of the Rings that I liked reading more than the actual story. (Forgive me for not remembering the exact one, but it's the one with the chart of the Tengwar script.) There ...
by StrangerCoug
Sat Dec 23, 2017 2:20 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: I could use a second set of eyes for my Romanization system.
Replies: 10
Views: 4227

Re: I could use a second set of eyes for my Romanization sys

Matter of fact, I think I've got a way to combine Buran and Nortaneous's ideas: Make the Romanization system a little more like a transcription system rather than a transliteration system. <v> and <w> are the same letter in the conscript, as are <gh> and <y>. (<tj dj sj zj> I want to make digraphs i...
by StrangerCoug
Sat Dec 23, 2017 1:02 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: I could use a second set of eyes for my Romanization system.
Replies: 10
Views: 4227

Re: I could use a second set of eyes for my Romanization sys

<a è e ö i j ü ơ ư y ò o u w p f b v m t ŧ ť d đ ď s š z ž n k g h ǥ ŋ l r> /a ɛ e ø i j y ɤ ɯ ɰ ɔ o u w p f b v m t θ t͡ʃ d ð d͡ʒ s ʃ z ʒ n k ɡ x ɣ ŋ l r/ There are six different diacritics here. I would suggest this instead: <a è e ö i j ü ë ï y ò o u w p f b v m t th tj d dh dj s sj z zj n k g k...
by StrangerCoug
Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:19 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: I could use a second set of eyes for my Romanization system.
Replies: 10
Views: 4227

Re: I could use a second set of eyes for my Romanization sys

Corrected the OP–/ʒ/ CAN occur syllable-finally natively, just not from /z/ in the standard language.
by StrangerCoug
Thu Dec 21, 2017 4:06 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: I could use a second set of eyes for my Romanization system.
Replies: 10
Views: 4227

Re: I could use a second set of eyes for my Romanization sys

/ɰ ɣ/ don't contrast, right? Maybe across morpheme boundaries: *C1C2-ɰ would condition fortition but *C1-C2ɰ wouldn't. Consonant clusters can't occur in the coda, but yeah. VC-ɰ triggers fortition while V-Cɰ doesn't. I see your point in the approximants really not having much functional load compar...
by StrangerCoug
Wed Dec 20, 2017 6:26 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Internet slang dating: is IIRC a somehow aging abbreviation?
Replies: 26
Views: 8360

Re: Internet slang dating: is IIRC a somehow aging abbreviat

I will turn 28 this coming Tuesday, and while I feel like I grew up in the Internet acronym age, with one exception that I made up specifically for someone I'm close to, I tend not to use ANY abbreviation often, instead writing them out or using an emoji (I don't distinguish between those and emotic...
by StrangerCoug
Wed Dec 20, 2017 5:55 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: I could use a second set of eyes for my Romanization system.
Replies: 10
Views: 4227

I could use a second set of eyes for my Romanization system.

So I've got a phonology here that I've given a Romanization to. I feel like I've done the best I could, but I see some shortcomings of it, and I want to know if it's good or whether it could use some further tweaking. Right now, I've got a system that draws inspiration from Czech, Sami, and (for the...
by StrangerCoug
Sun Oct 15, 2017 10:31 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Odd pronunciation of a Chinese name
Replies: 26
Views: 7368

Re: Odd pronunciation of a Chinese name

I'd have approximated it as /weɪ.ˈd͡ʒʊn/ at first glance. Normally it's the counterintuitive <c q x> and the orthographic vowel simplification rules that I get tripped up on when trying to approximate Mandarin.
by StrangerCoug
Sat Sep 23, 2017 10:19 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Singing pronunciation in different languages
Replies: 16
Views: 6134

Re: Singing pronunciation in different languages

I perceive the /i/ in 사나이 /sʰanai/ as closer to /ɛ/ or even /ɛɚ/ than /i/, and it also sounds to me like he's monophthongizing the /ai/ in 스타일 /sʰɯtʰaiɭ/. (To be fair to him, I don't perceive him as lowering all instances of /i/ where it occurs.) Is it always after /a/? Because that's a phenomenon ...
by StrangerCoug
Sat Sep 16, 2017 5:16 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 2827
Views: 613756

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

[h] already exists as an allophone of /x/. I had intended /h/ and /x/ to be separate phonemes, but hey, maybe they merge at some point :P Edited to add: Or even better, Language B speakers can't hear the difference between /x/ and /h/ and they get merged when it makes it way over to Language B. I'm...
by StrangerCoug
Sat Sep 16, 2017 2:38 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Singing pronunciation in different languages
Replies: 16
Views: 6134

Re: Singing pronunciation in different languages

Wouldn't know if it's standard in singing Korean, but when PSY sings Gangnam Style, there are points where he lowers /i/ quite a bit. I perceive the /i/ in 사나이 /sʰanai/ as closer to /ɛ/ or even /ɛɚ/ than /i/, and it also sounds to me like he's monophthongizing the /ai/ in 스타일 /sʰɯtʰaiɭ/. (To be fair...
by StrangerCoug
Sat Sep 16, 2017 2:09 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 2827
Views: 613756

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

Suppose I have a conculture where a significant minority speaks a conlang (let's call it Language A for the purposes of this question) with a (C)V(C) syllable structure whose consonant inventory is pretty much Skolt Sami plus /ʔ θ ç h/, but has only /a ə ɨ/ for its phonemic vowels. It's in contact w...
by StrangerCoug
Sat Aug 26, 2017 7:26 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 3108
Views: 639885

Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread

Afghanistan - in Polish I have something like /avganistan/ [ävɡ̠ä̃ˈɲ̟is̪t̪ä̃n̪] or [äʋʀ̝ä̃ˈis̪t̪ä̃n̪] and therefore I was surprised Wiktionary told me this /æfˈɡænɪˌstɑːn/. That's just the usual American pronunciation of it. It's not the only valid one in English by any means. I have /æ/ for every ...
by StrangerCoug
Sat Aug 19, 2017 7:12 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 3108
Views: 639885

Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread

Does anybody else here familiar with chess terminology find Zugzwang awkward to pronounce and want to turn the second /t͡s/ into an /s/?
by StrangerCoug
Thu Aug 10, 2017 7:35 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 2827
Views: 613756

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

Soap wrote:And if there's /b/, there's /p/
Not in Arabic unless I'm misunderstanding your post and you're referring to something else...
by StrangerCoug
Sat Aug 05, 2017 8:00 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlearn
Replies: 669
Views: 149484

Re: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlea

If you have the cot-caught merger, how are you claiming to have CAUGHT in "solenoid" while also claiming to disallow COT before /l/? If they're merged, they can't be different! The answer I gave to whether I had the COT or the THOUGHT vowel in <solenoid> was misleading, as perhaps was using /ɔ/ to ...
by StrangerCoug
Tue Aug 01, 2017 7:09 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlearn
Replies: 669
Views: 149484

Re: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlea

Hmm. Apparently, <solenoid> is /ˈsoʊ.lə.nɔɪd/, not /ˈsɔl.ə.nɔɪd/. Is /ˈsɔl.ə.nɔɪd/ the pronunciation you would expect based on some spelling pattern, or do you not know why you expected it? I'm pretty sure it's by analogy with "solid". I forget, what type of accent do you have and which vowel does ...
by StrangerCoug
Mon Jul 31, 2017 9:03 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlearn
Replies: 669
Views: 149484

Re: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlea

Hmm. Apparently, <solenoid> is /ˈsoʊ.lə.nɔɪd/, not /ˈsɔl.ə.nɔɪd/. Is /ˈsɔl.ə.nɔɪd/ the pronunciation you would expect based on some spelling pattern, or do you not know why you expected it? I'm pretty sure it's by analogy with "solid". I forget, what type of accent do you have and which vowel does ...
by StrangerCoug
Mon Jul 31, 2017 1:09 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlearn
Replies: 669
Views: 149484

Re: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlea

Hmm. Apparently, <solenoid> is /ˈsoʊ.lə.nɔɪd/, not /ˈsɔl.ə.nɔɪd/.