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- Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:38 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
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Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread
I like the first line, and I'm hard-pressed to come up with a reason to reject the rest.
- Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:07 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
- Replies: 2827
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Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Is it plausible to split a uvular series off from a velar series? If so, how?
- Mon Feb 26, 2018 11:32 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
- Replies: 2827
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Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread
I have a conlang which contrasts /ɹ̥ ɹ r̥ r l̥ l/, but only syllable-initially and after /s/ (which doesn't have a phonemic voicing contrast, but /sɹ̥ sɹ sr̥ sr sl̥ sl/ :> [sɹ̥ zɹ sr̥ zr sl̥ zl] phonetically). What are some interesting things I can do with the voiceless liquids besides just merging ...
- Sat Jan 27, 2018 4:41 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
- Replies: 2827
- Views: 631517
Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Second the idea that Greek "balsam" must necessarily represent a lateral fricative is stupid: it's cognate with Arabic /basam/ "pleasantness", a correspondence which gives Proto-Semitic *š rather that *ś, so it should have therefore been /ʃ/ in Hebrew as well which was just badly transcribed becaus...
- Tue Jan 09, 2018 3:34 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Your first conscript
- Replies: 14
- Views: 6669
Re: Your first conscript
Hoo boy. I don't remember my first conscript anymore, but I remember my introduction to conlanging being an appendix to The Lord of the Rings that I liked reading more than the actual story. (Forgive me for not remembering the exact one, but it's the one with the chart of the Tengwar script.) There ...
- Sat Dec 23, 2017 3:12 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: I could use a second set of eyes for my Romanization system.
- Replies: 10
- Views: 4419
- Sat Dec 23, 2017 2:20 am
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: I could use a second set of eyes for my Romanization system.
- Replies: 10
- Views: 4419
Re: I could use a second set of eyes for my Romanization sys
Matter of fact, I think I've got a way to combine Buran and Nortaneous's ideas: Make the Romanization system a little more like a transcription system rather than a transliteration system. <v> and <w> are the same letter in the conscript, as are <gh> and <y>. (<tj dj sj zj> I want to make digraphs i...
- Sat Dec 23, 2017 1:02 am
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: I could use a second set of eyes for my Romanization system.
- Replies: 10
- Views: 4419
Re: I could use a second set of eyes for my Romanization sys
<a è e ö i j ü ơ ư y ò o u w p f b v m t ŧ ť d đ ď s š z ž n k g h ǥ ŋ l r> /a ɛ e ø i j y ɤ ɯ ɰ ɔ o u w p f b v m t θ t͡ʃ d ð d͡ʒ s ʃ z ʒ n k ɡ x ɣ ŋ l r/ There are six different diacritics here. I would suggest this instead: <a è e ö i j ü ë ï y ò o u w p f b v m t th tj d dh dj s sj z zj n k g k...
- Thu Dec 21, 2017 11:49 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: I could use a second set of eyes for my Romanization system.
- Replies: 10
- Views: 4419
Re: I could use a second set of eyes for my Romanization sys
I was thinking of doing that
- Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:19 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: I could use a second set of eyes for my Romanization system.
- Replies: 10
- Views: 4419
Re: I could use a second set of eyes for my Romanization sys
Corrected the OP–/ʒ/ CAN occur syllable-finally natively, just not from /z/ in the standard language.
- Thu Dec 21, 2017 4:06 am
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: I could use a second set of eyes for my Romanization system.
- Replies: 10
- Views: 4419
Re: I could use a second set of eyes for my Romanization sys
/ɰ ɣ/ don't contrast, right? Maybe across morpheme boundaries: *C1C2-ɰ would condition fortition but *C1-C2ɰ wouldn't. Consonant clusters can't occur in the coda, but yeah. VC-ɰ triggers fortition while V-Cɰ doesn't. I see your point in the approximants really not having much functional load compar...
- Wed Dec 20, 2017 6:26 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Internet slang dating: is IIRC a somehow aging abbreviation?
- Replies: 26
- Views: 8600
Re: Internet slang dating: is IIRC a somehow aging abbreviat
I will turn 28 this coming Tuesday, and while I feel like I grew up in the Internet acronym age, with one exception that I made up specifically for someone I'm close to, I tend not to use ANY abbreviation often, instead writing them out or using an emoji (I don't distinguish between those and emotic...
- Wed Dec 20, 2017 5:55 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: I could use a second set of eyes for my Romanization system.
- Replies: 10
- Views: 4419
I could use a second set of eyes for my Romanization system.
So I've got a phonology here that I've given a Romanization to. I feel like I've done the best I could, but I see some shortcomings of it, and I want to know if it's good or whether it could use some further tweaking. Right now, I've got a system that draws inspiration from Czech, Sami, and (for the...
- Sun Oct 15, 2017 10:31 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Odd pronunciation of a Chinese name
- Replies: 26
- Views: 7664
Re: Odd pronunciation of a Chinese name
I'd have approximated it as /weɪ.ˈd͡ʒʊn/ at first glance. Normally it's the counterintuitive <c q x> and the orthographic vowel simplification rules that I get tripped up on when trying to approximate Mandarin.
- Sat Sep 23, 2017 10:19 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Singing pronunciation in different languages
- Replies: 16
- Views: 6294
Re: Singing pronunciation in different languages
I perceive the /i/ in 사나이 /sʰanai/ as closer to /ɛ/ or even /ɛɚ/ than /i/, and it also sounds to me like he's monophthongizing the /ai/ in 스타일 /sʰɯtʰaiɭ/. (To be fair to him, I don't perceive him as lowering all instances of /i/ where it occurs.) Is it always after /a/? Because that's a phenomenon ...
- Sat Sep 16, 2017 5:16 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
- Replies: 2827
- Views: 631517
Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread
[h] already exists as an allophone of /x/. I had intended /h/ and /x/ to be separate phonemes, but hey, maybe they merge at some point :P Edited to add: Or even better, Language B speakers can't hear the difference between /x/ and /h/ and they get merged when it makes it way over to Language B. I'm...
- Sat Sep 16, 2017 2:38 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Singing pronunciation in different languages
- Replies: 16
- Views: 6294
Re: Singing pronunciation in different languages
Wouldn't know if it's standard in singing Korean, but when PSY sings Gangnam Style, there are points where he lowers /i/ quite a bit. I perceive the /i/ in 사나이 /sʰanai/ as closer to /ɛ/ or even /ɛɚ/ than /i/, and it also sounds to me like he's monophthongizing the /ai/ in 스타일 /sʰɯtʰaiɭ/. (To be fair...
- Sat Sep 16, 2017 2:09 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
- Replies: 2827
- Views: 631517
Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Suppose I have a conculture where a significant minority speaks a conlang (let's call it Language A for the purposes of this question) with a (C)V(C) syllable structure whose consonant inventory is pretty much Skolt Sami plus /ʔ θ ç h/, but has only /a ə ɨ/ for its phonemic vowels. It's in contact w...
- Sat Aug 26, 2017 7:26 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
- Replies: 3108
- Views: 666199
Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
Afghanistan - in Polish I have something like /avganistan/ [ävɡ̠ä̃ˈɲ̟is̪t̪ä̃n̪] or [äʋʀ̝ä̃ˈis̪t̪ä̃n̪] and therefore I was surprised Wiktionary told me this /æfˈɡænɪˌstɑːn/. That's just the usual American pronunciation of it. It's not the only valid one in English by any means. I have /æ/ for every ...
- Sat Aug 19, 2017 7:12 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
- Replies: 3108
- Views: 666199
Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
Does anybody else here familiar with chess terminology find Zugzwang awkward to pronounce and want to turn the second /t͡s/ into an /s/?
- Thu Aug 10, 2017 7:35 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
- Replies: 2827
- Views: 631517
Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Not in Arabic unless I'm misunderstanding your post and you're referring to something else...Soap wrote:And if there's /b/, there's /p/
- Sat Aug 05, 2017 8:00 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlearn
- Replies: 669
- Views: 157142
Re: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlea
If you have the cot-caught merger, how are you claiming to have CAUGHT in "solenoid" while also claiming to disallow COT before /l/? If they're merged, they can't be different! The answer I gave to whether I had the COT or the THOUGHT vowel in <solenoid> was misleading, as perhaps was using /ɔ/ to ...
- Tue Aug 01, 2017 7:09 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlearn
- Replies: 669
- Views: 157142
Re: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlea
Hmm. Apparently, <solenoid> is /ˈsoʊ.lə.nɔɪd/, not /ˈsɔl.ə.nɔɪd/. Is /ˈsɔl.ə.nɔɪd/ the pronunciation you would expect based on some spelling pattern, or do you not know why you expected it? I'm pretty sure it's by analogy with "solid". I forget, what type of accent do you have and which vowel does ...
- Mon Jul 31, 2017 9:03 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlearn
- Replies: 669
- Views: 157142
Re: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlea
Hmm. Apparently, <solenoid> is /ˈsoʊ.lə.nɔɪd/, not /ˈsɔl.ə.nɔɪd/. Is /ˈsɔl.ə.nɔɪd/ the pronunciation you would expect based on some spelling pattern, or do you not know why you expected it? I'm pretty sure it's by analogy with "solid". I forget, what type of accent do you have and which vowel does ...
- Mon Jul 31, 2017 1:09 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlearn
- Replies: 669
- Views: 157142
Re: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlea
Hmm. Apparently, <solenoid> is /ˈsoʊ.lə.nɔɪd/, not /ˈsɔl.ə.nɔɪd/.