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The term you are looking for might be "active articulator". POA can be broken down in passive and active articulators, although the latter distinction is rarely employed and people can usually make do with naming just the passive articulator ("labial", "dental", "palatal" etc. instead of "bilabial"...

Is there a term for the apical/laminal(/subapical) axis in coronals? Or is it a second dimension of POA just for coronals?

Have an abugida/mixed alphabet where the vowel-changing symbols may appear as letters in their own right (they take up space in line as a full consonant letter would) and some, like in the Brahmic scripts', would appear before the consonant letter instead of after. For even more fun, have suppletive...

[is ˈɡʷut t͡ʃə ˌbeː ˈhoːm ‖ maː ˈfeloː əˈmetɨkn̩r | miˈʂeəl ənt ˈaː həf ˌbɨn ˈhoː ˈsɨʂt baː ˈuːl zə ˈweəlˌwiʂiər ˌweːf tɨˈheːft ˈoːvɨ˞ zə ˈfɛəht͡ʃ fˠɥøəw ˈweːk ‖ ˌbət͡ʃ səˈnaːt͡ʃ is ˈmaː ˌsɨ˞n t͡ʃə ˌheː ˈsɛŋk ‖ ˈwezɨ˞ weːv ˈheːn ˌaː tʷoː ˈaː ɨ˞ ˈteɻleː əˈɡteːt ət͡ʃ ˈuːl | maː ˌkaːnvɨ˞ˈheːʂn̩r wiz ˈɥ...

l̩ > əw əw > o h > ∅ / _j j > ∅ / %C_V (yod-dropping) s > ʃ / {[+rhotic], [+velar]}_ (ruki rule) /ˈlʌv əz ˈfɹɛndʃɪp̚ ðət̚ həz ˈkʰɑːt̚ ˈfaɪɚ. ˈɪt̚ əz ˈkʰwaɪət̚ ˌʌndɚˈʃtændɪŋ, ˈmuwt͡ʃuwo ˈkʰɑn̊fədn̩s, ˈʃɛɹɪŋ ənd fɚˈɡɪvɪŋ. ˈɪt əz ˈlɔɪotij θɹuw ˈɡʊd ənd ˈbæd ˈtʰaɪmz. ɪt ˈsɛtoz fɚ ˈlɛs ðən pʰɚˈfɛk̚ʃən ə...

I've got a WIP conlang based on "pashmina" پشمینه‎‎ being my "cellar door".

I've been using Arabic and Aramaic/Hebrew for a few sketches I've been knocking around. Perso-Arabic seems well-suited to one unnamed small-inventory language. دشلی کیوی or دَشْلِی کِیوِی [dæɕ.liː kiː.ʋiː] is a name. پأ دو سیرش or پَأ دُو سَیْرِشْ [pæ duː sɐɪ̯.ɾɪɕ] <NEG IMP-VEHICULAR-MOVEMENT embark...

Aha! It is Rapoisi! But no nasals. Thanks, Nort.

The thread/post, the paper, where I remembered the amusingly empty consonant table.

Life words will often be related to breath words because breath is the most obvious sign of life; ghost words may also be related to breath words because it's common to see breezes both as breath and as the work of spirits. One reason I ask is because I think I remember-- but am not sure-- reading ...

I saw a short paper linked here that gave an overview of a language with a minimal inventory. The inventory was this, IIRC: /m n/ *EDIT: no nasals /p t k ʔ/ /s/ /β ɾ ɣ/ maybe /h/ *EDIT: yes /a e i o u/ /ɾ/: [ɾ~l~d] *ti si :> s̩ There was some description of word construction as well. I can't find th...

Change one unchanged vowel. Unstressed ɘ :> ɨ [ɐɪ ˈθɔt dɪs ˈsɪɾiː vød ˈbiː o ˈpʰœːˌfɪt ˈpʰlɪs vø ˈɛvɻɨˌwœn ɡät oˈlɔŋ ə̃d ˈɛnɨˌvœn kʰod ˌbiː ˈɛnɨˌθɪŋ ‖ ˌtʰɔːɳʐ ˈɐʊt | ˈlɐɪfs o ˈlɪʂ ˈbɪt mɔː ˈkʰämplɨˌkɪɾɨd ˌdə̃ o ˈsloʊɡə̃ ˌän o ˈbœmpø ˈstɪkɨ ‖ ˈɻɘːʊ ˈlɐɪf oz ˈmɛsiː ‖ viː ˈɔʊ hov ˌlɪmɪˈtʰɪɕə̃z ‖ viː ˈ...

Retraction of coronals after [ɻ] applies where it currently does not. ɻ :> 0 / syllable coda, lengthens stressed vowels. r̝ r̝̊ ɺ̥ :> ʐ ʂ ʂ N̩ :> ə̃ ð :> d Rounded and advanced (e.g. [ɘ̟]) unrounded central non-low oral vowels front if there are no stressed or full back vowels in the word. Unrounde...

Repost question because it got lost.

Αυτοβοτα wrote:Re: 12 & 14, how do you count a single liquid that has prominent lateral and rhotic allophones? For example, there's Korean, with [l] or [ɾ] depending on position.

Would it be 0 and 0?

Re: 12 & 14, how do you count a single liquid that has prominent lateral and rhotic allophones? For example, there's Korean, with [l] or [ɾ] depending on position.

ɾ :> l / _% (coda) C[+obstruent] :> [+voice] / V[-tonic]_ h :> 0 / V[-tonic]_ vowel hiatus :> j 0 :> ə / C[+sonorant]_C[+sonorant] /ɑʃ mos nɑ fil | fil iˈjil to ˈmɑjəŋˌɣɪf | fil iˈjil to ˈliɾuˌtæt͡s tæ iˈbɾiŋ ˈsovɾu oˈbliˌreʒːə̃ | ɑʃ vy feʃ filmi | ɑʃ vy fmi i su fæs ˈopmiʃ æn t͡sɾumiʃ | æn væn iˈj...

Apply StrangerCoug's changes to my changes. Oblique pronouns are suffixed to prepositions and possesed words. t :> 0 in the coda ɹ :> ɾ / θ_ z :> ɾ /aj mʌs nɑ fɪɚ | fɪɚ ɪˈjɪɾ ðə ˈmajnˌkʰɪvɚ | fɪɚ ɪˈjɪɾ ðə ˈlɪɾuˌdɛθ ðæ ɪˈbɹɪŋɾ ˈtʰowɾu əˈblɪɾɚˌejʃn̩ | aj vɪw fejs fɪɚmɪ | aj vɪw pʰɚˈmɪ ɪ tʰu pʰæs ˈovː...

StrangerCoug -- you used the original transcription, not the mutated one.

The Litany Against Fear I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be ...

əː :> aː t͡ʃ :> t͡s nasalized vowels lengthen in open syllables /my fɛt͡sə̃ː əɾ ə ʏ naːh fɪkːɪ̃ː aː jə fũː fə ɛ̃ːniwə̃ː wə tɪt ʏ kaː fələ yteː t͡səs tʏ əvaːt meː? wə ə ʏ t͡sʕẽːnɪ̃ː? ə ʏ lɪt͡snɪ̃ː tə meː, ʕyː nœʏ? fɪː aː tə fũː, ɛ̃ːmə. tɪs ɪɾ jə t͡sət ə̃t ɥə hœɾɪ̃ː meː ə laːh. fleːɾ fɪː aː tə fũː./ ...

semivowel :> 0 / _(corresponding close or near-close vowel) (only causes ɥʏ :> ʏ in this sample) ʌ :> ə ɹ :> ʕ ɸ :> f /ˌmy ˈxwɛʦən əɾ ˌə ˈʏ ˌnaːh ˈfɪkːɪŋ ˈəː jə ˈfun fə ˈɛniˌwən wə tɪt ˈʏ kəː ˈxwələ ˈyˈteː ʧəs ˌtːʏ əˈvəːt meː? wə ˌə ʏ ˈʦʕeːnɪŋ? ɥə ˈʏ ˈlɪʦnɪŋ tːə ˈmeː, ˈʕyː ˈnœʏ? fɪː ˈəː tə ˈfun, ˈɛ...

Unreleased stops elide after a fricative. [+palato-alveolar, +affricate] :> [+alveolar, +plosive] / [+alveolar]_ ʊ :> ʏ iɪ :> eɪ ɛʊ :> ɛʏ ɒə :> œə oɪ :> əɪ ɝ :> œ oʊ :> u ɨ :> ə /ˌmɔɪ ˈkʰwɛstən əz ˌə ˈjʏ ˌnɑt̚ ˈpʰɪkɪŋ ˈʌp̚ jə ˈfun fə ˈɛniˌwʌn ʊə dɪd ˈjʏ ɡət̚ ˈkʰʊələ ˈɔɪˈdeɪ d͡ʒəs ˌtʏ əˈvəɪd meɪ? ʊə...

ɑ̯ :> ɚ ɔː :> ɔɪ iː :> iʊ Lag voicing and POA assimilation. /ʔɔɚ fɔɚʈɛɚ ʔʏ ʔɛɚʈ ɲɑ ʔiʊvɛɲ, ʔɛɺɔɚʈ bɪ tɛɚ nɛɲ. tɛɚ t͡ʃɪd͡zɪɲɟ. tɛɚ wɚ bɪ dɑ | ʔɔɚɳ ʔɪt zdznɑ ʔiʊvɛɲ. d͡ʒʏ st͡ss dɪ ʔɔɚ dɪɺɪ bɾiʊt, tfɪd͡ʒʏ sɔɚ t͡ɬiʊspɛsː, sɔɪ fɪd͡ʒʏ tɔɚʂ ʔʏ t͡ɬiʊspɛs gists, tɾ̥ɪt sn̥ɔɚʈ ɪt͡s titɪʃɪɲ, bd d͡zɚvɪ sfɾ̥ɔɪ ʔ...

/p t k kʷ ʡ/ /ts/ /ɸ s x ʜ/ /m n/ /ɹ l w/ /dɾ dl dn/ /ɑ ɛ i o ai ia/ Includes a set of pre-stopped sonorants. Not sure if I want to include /bm/ as well. /t ɹ dɾ/ are dental and /ts s n dn l dl/ are alveolar. The dorsals tend toward prevelar, especially /x/. /ai/ cannot occur in sequential syllables...

ɨ̆ :> 0, leaving syllabic consonants, geminates, and delightful multi-word clusters. /ɔː fɑtɑː ʉ ɑːt ɲn̩ eːvɛɲ, ɛloːt bɨ tæː nɛɲ. tæː t͡ʃɲ̩d͡ziɲ k. tæː wl̩ bɨ dn̩ | ɑn ɨt z t s ɲn̩ eːvɛɲ. d͡ʒʉ s t͡ss dɨ ɔː dɨlɨ bleːt, t fɨd͡ʒʉ s ɔː t͡ɬeːspɛsː, s u fɨd͡ʒʉ toːs ʉ t͡ɬeːspɛs gɛɲ̩st s, t lɨt s nɑt ɲ̩t͡s ...