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Is there any chance of unconditioned s > ts, if there are other sources of s to fill in the gap?

How do these changes look?

ts tɬ tɕ→ s ɬ ɕ (but ts' tɬ' tɕ' preserved)
(later)
p’ k’ q’ → pf’ kx’ qχ’ → f’ x’ χ’
f' → f

Assuming an initial inventory without ejective fricatives?

Some slightly shorter paradigms here, from Porto-Chdha dʑá - "town" dʑá (sg.nom) dʑádʑá (pl.nom) dʑɛ́ (sg.acc) dʑɛ́dʑá (pl.acc) pá - "place" pá (sg.nom) pábá (pl.nom) bɛ́ (sg.acc) bɛ́bá (pl.acc) skau - "mouth" skau (sg.nom) skuskau (pl.nom) skɒy (sg.acc) skyskau (pl.acc)

finlay wrote:

Max1461 wrote:来前学期

ああ、タイポだと思う。でも、私の辞書は「先学期」だけあるが、「前学期」がない。違う？

Oh, I think that was a typo. But in my dictionary, only 先学期 is listed for "last semester", not 前学期. Is there a difference?

(I've never heard 前 used for "last" before)

来学期、大学で初めて日本語のクラスをとった。４年くらい前から、日本語を習いたい。今は、ちょっと話せて、ちょっと書けるが、漢字があまりわからないのによって、読むことがとても下手。来年（２０１９の春に）、多分、日本に行って、学期で勉強する。それで、大いに日本語で進む(?)ことが要ると思う。 Last semester, I took a Japanese class for the first time at my university. I've been wanting to study Japanese for about four years or so. Now, I can speak...

This one really made me scratch my ch'in... Ok, horrible puns aside, this is the first bit of actual conlanging I've posted here. For about a year or so, I've unfortunately not had that much time to spend on conlanging, and I fear I may have gotten a bit rusty. Now that I do have a bit more time, I ...

I just learned today that the past tense of glow is glowed. I'd been saying glew all my god damn life.

I was going to post this in the 'What are you playing' thread, but it actually seemed more appropriate here. I've been playing a lot of Breath of the Wild lately. It's the first game in, like, at least five years that I've really had fun with. I got out of gaming for a long time due to life (mental ...

How do languages stay agglutinative for long periods of time? It seems that after just a few conditioned changes, fusional aspects would almost immediately start to creep into the language, especially if it has loose restrictions on syllable structure. Yet the indigenous languages of North America a...

I tend to be a sentimental person generally, but I often have a strong emotional attachment to places in particular. This might be related to something else I've noticed about myself, that when consuming fiction, I usually care a great deal more about the setting(s) than the characters (In fact, if ...

1. True palatals (sometimes as allophones, usually phonemic) 2. /ð/ but no /θ/ (usually from older /z/, this is not hugely common in my conlangs, but much more so than in natlangs) 3. No consideration of sonorant hierarchy in phonotactics. 4. Either very simple syllables, or lots of initial clusters...

valiums wrote:How about a thread where people suggest various improvements or additions to English (NOT in the spelling), and everyone tries to use them.

I support this idea.

dyolf wrote:Sindarin Y sounds like /y/, which he borrowed from French

dyolf wrote:

mèþru wrote:<y> is /i j/ in /french. /y/ is <u>.

No one said otherwise.

You did.

/m n ɲ ŋ/ <♋︎/ ♋︎ 6 q> /p b t d c ɟ k g/ <♋︎/' ♋︎\ ♋︎' ♋︎'\ 6' 6\' 9' 9'\> /ts dz tʃ dʒ/ <☭ ⚧ ☭' ⚧' > /f v θ ð s z ʃ ʒ h/ <ff f ff' f' ҂҈ ҂҉ ↂ ㍰ xxx > /ɾ r ɫ l j/ <l ll r U YA> /a e ə o i y u/ <9 y' qq qq' y $ q'> mbuʃni ɲə enə tə maðe me ujə mbi zjar ðe kuɾ tə fiɫojə tə vlojə, hiðni patatet e posav...

/p b ɓ t d ɗ ʦ ʦʼ ʣ ʧ ʤ k kʼ~ɠ ɡ/ <p b b' t d d' tz tz' dz k k' g> /m n ɲ ŋ/ <m n ñ ŋ> /r/ <r> /f v s z ʃ ʒ h ɦʲ/ <f v s sz x j gh ch> /w l j/ <w l y> /i e a o u/ <i e a o u> /ɪ ɛ (a) ɔ ʊ/ <ÿ ä ë ö> /a á ꜜá ꜜa ḁ/ <a aƅ aƃ aƨ ah > /kaɪ́nɪ́ko nuku̥, mitíá noː máwá ámázeáma ínóe̥. epía noː pakóé mɪtɪɛ ...

/t̫ t k q/
/t' k'/
/b d dɮ ɟ/
/ɗ/
/f s ɬ ɬ̡ ɕ x χ h/
/ð̫ ɣ ʕ/
/l ɻ ʀ/
/m n ɲ/

/i ɨ ɨ˞/
/ɤ ɤ˞ o o˞/
/ə ə˞/
/a a˞/

/à á à̰/

/qfó˞ ndà˞ʀà̰ kóɲɬɤ̀˞ ɣáɗn kɬàóḭ̀ dí bdɮə́˞sák sqòxkmòú hí də̀ɣáà̰ɲ ə́t'íɨ́ð̫ kà ə̀í dà̰˞ɟʕá ɨ̀˞sɨ̀ɗɤ́n χmòì móɨ́ɬ ɣð̫ɤ̰̀˞ɻk' tá/

I recall reading somewhere that English actually has ejectives as utterance final allophones of the stops. I actually know a lot of people who do this, so I'm inclined to believe it.

Mike Yams wrote:I for one find Classical Nāhuatl to be a "cellar door" language.

By which I assume you mean you find it's entire phonology inherently pleasing (as opposed to it having an usually high number of "nice sounding" words)? I would certainly agree, I absolutely love Nāhuatl.

ᚸᚯᛒ /p b t d tɬ dɮ k g q ɢ ʔ/ <ᛈ ᛒ ᛐ ᛑ ᛛ ᛑᛛ ᚳ ᚷ ᚴ ᚸ ᛫> /f ɬ s ʃ x χ h/ <ᚠ ᛚ ᛊ ᛋ ᚼ ᚱᚺ ᚺ> /m n ŋ/ <ᛗ ᚾ ᛜ> /z~ɹ/ <ᚱ> /a e ʌ o i ɯ/ <ᚫ ᛖ ᚯ ᚭ ᛁ ᚢ> /noʔ sʌg nxi dɮʌg da boɢ nmo xɯrɯb niɢim nʌʔ ŋoʃ feʃdʌɢ kpeg niɢim dɮaxa | k beŋ ɢe nʌʔ qa ɢʌs kɯxɯg xag dɮog ɢʌb ɬaʔ/ ᚾᚭ᛫ ᛊᚯᚷ ᚾᚼᛁ ᛑᛛᚯᚷ ᛑᚫ ᛒᚭᚸ ᚾᛖᚯ... ----- /p...

May I just say, "The Old Jaw" might just be the coolest name for a language I've ever heard. Also, for nasal harmony, you might want to check out Guaraní

/m mʲ n ŋ/ <m nh n ng> /p pʲ t ts̻ k q ʔ/ <b bh d j cg g '> /pʰ pʲʰ tʰ ts̻ʰ kʰ qʰ/ <p ph t q ck k> /b bʲ d dz̻ ɡ ɢ/ <v vh zh z chg gh> /f fʲ s s̻ h/ <f fh s x hs> /ʋ r l j/ <w rr ll y> /i ĩ e ɛ ɛ̃ a ã ɔ ɔ̃ o u ũ/ <i ĩ e ae aẽ ao aõ o õ oa u ũ> /˩ ˧ ˥/ <ar a ah> /iː eː ɛː aː ɔː oː uː/ <il el ael al a...

Ubghuu /m mʲ n ŋ/ <m mj n ng> /p pʲ t ts̻ k q ʔ/ <p pj t tz c~qu k Ɂ> /pʰ pʲʰ tʰ ts̻ʰ kʰ qʰ/ <φ φj θ θz χ ϙ> /b bʲ d dz̻ ɡ ɢ/ <b bj d dz g~gh q> /f fʲ s s̻ h/ <f fj s sz h> /ʋ r l j/ <v r l y> /i ĩ e ɛ ɛ̃ a ã ɔ ɔ̃ o u ũ/ <i iƞ ei e eƞ a aƞ o oƞ ou u uƞ> /V Vː ˩ ˧ ˥/ <a ā à a á> Example text: /pɛʔ˥ ...

/p t̪ k/ <p t c~qu> /m n̪/ <m n> /ɾ̪/ <r> /(s̪) h/ <s h> /w j/ <hv j> /i e ɛ ɑ ɔ o u/ <i ey e a o ov u> /ɑ ɑ́ ɑ̂ ɑ̌ ɑ᷈/ <a á à á' ã> /ɛn̪ɛ᷈ kéi pékɑ̂ ut̪ímɑ̂pɔ | n̪ɑmɑ᷈i | ɔt̪ɔpɑ᷈e | pɛmɔ́ | hó | kɛí ɾ̪ɛíkɑ̂ hó | kɛí hókɑ̂ hó pɔt̪ɔímɔ́ || ɑmɑ᷈n̪ɑn̪é ɾ̪ɔu᷈ t̪ɛ ɾ̪ɛ́ikɑ̂ úmɔ́ || ûn̪ɑn̪é ɾ̪ɔwɑt̪í t̪ɛ ɑm...

ɪ̃ ĩ ũ ʊ̃ æ̃ > ẽ ẽ õ õ ã 2 ɪ ʊ > i u b d merge with v ð, having the fricativs as allophones V_V. pronouns become pro clitics, with appropriate orthography change. /dis fəˈdo.ɹə iˈwe ˈsʌu ˈpɹuɑd.li əˈpõɑ̃ miˈhed z ˈmo də̃ dʒəst̚ ə ˈpəis əb ˈklæ.si ˈhed.we, ˈit̚ ˈsẽ.bə.ˌli.zəz miˌẽˈte.lə.dʒə̃s ə̃d ẽˈl...

1. Vɦ Vh > V̈ 2. ʐ > ɻ 4. sʰ ʃʰ ʂʰ > h x x 3. Orthogrphy Change /ˈʂoväü da ˈʃeʃi ba da ˈjonesar ˈstï, ˈɡäɻainä as ˈaul ˈläïlar xar bəˈna na ˈäɻaiʃë ˈfɻäü au ˈpʰïla ba ˈkʰaɭa, ˈapʰaiɮi ˈblä ˈpʰïla. da ˈɻefälä ˈvar ˈfaudar ver ˈäɻana ˈhaɮa ˈɬïɻi ˈepʰlesaɮi ˈɻaixanerda i da ˈkʰautʰasurna. ˈaʈʰa ˈɻinatʰ...