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- Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:48 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Which -an adjective based on "Rousseau" do you prefer?
- Replies: 6
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Which -an adjective based on "Rousseau" do you prefer?
From most to least frequent according to the Google Ngram Viewer : Rousseauian, Rousseauan, Rousseauvian, Rousseaunian. The following forms are not frequent enough to show up on the Ngram Viewer, but I gather from Google search results that they do exist: Roussonian, Rousseavian, Roussevian. If you ...
- Sat Jun 23, 2018 10:11 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
- Replies: 3108
- Views: 666163
Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
Vengaboys - We're Going To Ibiza https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfwNvfX5Aic Why do they say "Ibiza" as "eebeetsa" in the song? Isn't "Ibiza" pronounce "eebeetha"? Probably just confusion between the pronunciation of "z" in Spanish and in other Romance languages like Italian. You can find a lot of ...
- Thu May 24, 2018 7:22 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
- Replies: 3108
- Views: 666163
Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
does anyone say english with an /i/ and not an /ɪ/?? If I remember correctly, David J. Peterson does. (I forget where he wrote about it, though.) A pronunciation with /i/ would be expected from any speaker who has the sound change ɪ → i / _ŋ, which seems to occur for certain speakers in the West an...
- Wed May 23, 2018 9:44 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
- Replies: 3108
- Views: 666163
Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
indo-european /ˌɪndoˌjɜrəˈpiən/ [ˈɪndoˌjəɹʷəˈpʰiən] algonquian /ælˈgɑŋkwiən/ [aɫˈgɑŋkwiən] japonic /dʒəˈpɑnək/ [dʒəˈpʰɑnɪʔk] korean /kəˈriən/ [kʰəˈɹʷiən] xhosa /ˈkosʌ/ [ˈkʰoʊsʌ~ə~ɐ] cherokee /ˈtʃerəˌki/ [ˈtʃeɹʷəˌki] klingon /ˈklɪŋən/ [ˈkʰlɪŋən] cad'inor /ˈkæðəˌnor/ [ˈkʰæðəˌnoɹ] or maybe [ˈkʰæðn̩oɹ]?...
- Sun May 13, 2018 1:10 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlearn
- Replies: 669
- Views: 157139
Re: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlea
Undine is apparently pronounced to rhyme with "mean", not "mine". I don't think I will change my pronunciation, but I haven't said the word out loud in 20 years and probably won't within the next 20. Ah, that's news to me as well. Words ending in "-ine" have fairly unpredictable pronunciations (e.g...
- Sun May 06, 2018 3:09 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Is it better to say "for you and me" than "for me and you"?
- Replies: 7
- Views: 6423
Re: Is it better to say "for you and me" than "for me and yo
"Better" and "bad" are such vague terms that it's not really possible to answer this without context and a description of what your goals are ... "for you and me" is the more common word order.
- Sat Apr 21, 2018 9:19 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: A sixth pronunciation for the letter "x".
- Replies: 33
- Views: 19240
Re: A sixth pronunciation for the letter "x".
Kind of painful to read someone talking about pronunciation with apparently no understanding of allophony or phonetic environment. E.g. you can't have <ia> = [ajej] at the end of a word, and I'm pretty sure four of those x's are allophonic. Hmm, I wouldn't say that any of /ks/ /gz/ /kʃ/ /gʒ/ are ju...
- Sat Apr 21, 2018 9:02 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: A sixth pronunciation for the letter "x".
- Replies: 33
- Views: 19240
Re: A sixth pronunciation for the letter "x".
GZH as in "luxurious" ..."luxurious" has /kʃ/ for me. Also, apparently I've been completely mispronouncing alexithymia , which I assumed was [əˌɫɛksəˈθimiə]. I'm not sure if the /eː/ or the /ai/ is more counterintuitive here. As I said in my previous post, the author is wrong about the first syllab...
- Sat Apr 21, 2018 8:50 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: A sixth pronunciation for the letter "x".
- Replies: 33
- Views: 19240
Re: A sixth pronunciation for the letter "x".
That's an interesting one. Apparently the author, like me, has a perceptually salient allophone of /eɪ/ before tautosyllabic /l/, which is described as a "flat-A sound". I would write the sound for me as something like [eə]. I wonder from that wording if the author has merged it with some other phon...
- Sat Apr 14, 2018 5:40 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
- Replies: 3108
- Views: 666163
Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
Traditionally it is pronounced /krApi/ [citation needed] I also wonder about that, but it does seem to be the most common pronunciation given in dictionaries. I've never used the word much, but I thought of it as having /æ/. It seems to come from French "crapet", used by Canadian speakers. Based on...
- Sat Mar 24, 2018 6:36 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlearn
- Replies: 669
- Views: 157139
Re: Incorrect pronunciations you have (or have had) to unlea
I only learned a while ago that "courier" doesn't rhyme with "warrior". And I thought "carapace" ended in /əs/--maybe I was comparing it to "populace--but it seems like the typical pronunciation is actually with /eɪs/. Also, "chaparral" is from Spanish, not from French, so I think /tʃ/ really makes ...
- Thu Mar 22, 2018 11:32 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: /ɑ/ /ɛː/ in Quebec / Belgian French: inflectional paradigm?
- Replies: 3
- Views: 4210
Re: /ɑ/ /ɛː/ in Quebec / Belgian French: inflectional paradi
Actually, the distinction between /a/ and /ɑ/ seems to be generally neutralized in favor of /ɑ/ in word-final phonetically open syllables in Quebec French. (I'm saying "phonetically" open just to clarify that I'm not talking about some kind of SPE-esque morpho-phonological analysis of French where a...
- Sat Feb 17, 2018 3:29 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Are the h and ng sounds allophones?
- Replies: 31
- Views: 18266
Re: Are the h and ng sounds allophones?
"moss-eyed" and "maw-side" How would anyone make a difference between these two? I distinguish them by vowel quality, /ɒ/ against /ɔː/, though I doubt that's what you were asking. Well, most people of course have totally different vowels in these words. Earlier in the paragraph, I wrote "in General...
- Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:46 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Occurrence of spelling pronunciations
- Replies: 35
- Views: 15880
Re: Occurrence of spelling pronunciations
One interesting case where it doesn't seem that the use of /-stl/ for "-stle" could be due to influence from a related word ending in /-st/ is "pestle" (unsurprisingly, it's not etymologically related to "pest", and I doubt that a significant number of speakers think of the words as being related). ...
- Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:19 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Are the h and ng sounds allophones?
- Replies: 31
- Views: 18266
Re: Are the h and ng sounds allophones?
People usually don't perceive the latter to be a sound at all due to an extremely orthography-centric approach to consonants in English language education. It is usually thought of as n + g. The common perception of [ŋ] as n + g (or at least, the perception that it is similar to this) may not be ju...
- Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:33 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Questions about inflected prepositions
- Replies: 12
- Views: 8289
Re: Questions about inflected prepositions
As another 2p in the pot, German appears to be at an earlier stage of this development. Inflected prepositions are pretty clearly contractions of conjunction + article , where the inflection comes from the article. Examples include zur in zur Tur ("to the door", dative feminine) = zu + dative femin...
- Fri Jan 26, 2018 6:16 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Will singular "they" be as acceptable as "you" in formal Eng
- Replies: 44
- Views: 18991
Re: Will singular "they" be as acceptable as "you" in formal
*yes, I know some people think 'they' is inherently sexist. But they're a minority. I'd be interested in an explanation of this--I haven't heard that one before. There's no widespread misconception -- singular "they" doesn't exist, except among the people who insist that it does. There is a generic...
- Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:04 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
- Replies: 3108
- Views: 666163
Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
[p] in /mf/ definitely seems possible for me, but I'm not sure how often it is present.
How do you pronounce:
quaff
waft
waffle
Jungian
diphthongal
?
How do you pronounce:
quaff
waft
waffle
Jungian
diphthongal
?
- Sat Jan 20, 2018 10:29 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: 16th C Spanish and Nahuatl
- Replies: 7
- Views: 3318
Re: 16th C Spanish and Nahuatl
Not all [s]'s are actually the same. I don't remember the phonetic details or which types of [s] Nahuatl and Spanish have, but e.g. in present-day Basque the letters "s" and "z" are used to write two different kinds of [s]-like sounds.
- Wed Jan 17, 2018 5:33 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: /ç/ vs. /x/ in German
- Replies: 22
- Views: 6552
Re: /ç/ vs. /x/ in German
>I don't know where you get that information From spending time in Austria, talking and listening to Austrians. When discussing recipes with the mother of my friend i said Essig with ç and she replied "ah, that's such a German pronunciation, we say ['ɛsɪk]" I would interpret that statement as sayin...
- Mon Jan 15, 2018 4:59 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Affricates
- Replies: 10
- Views: 4122
Re: Affricates
How does something like [tʙ] feature into this homorganicism? [tʙ] seems to be very rare. I don't know much about the languages where it occurs, but " Linguistics: An Introduction (William B. McGregor, 2015) describes it as an " unusual coarticulated phone ". The Wikipedia article " bilabial trill ...
- Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:20 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: /ç/ vs. /x/ in German
- Replies: 22
- Views: 6552
Re: /ç/ vs. /x/ in German
I don't see /ˈaɪxˌmɑn/ anywhere on that page, actually. The /x/ consonant appears when you press the "IPA" button next to the "kh" entry. Oh, I see! I missed that button. Yeah, that seems like it's just a mistake then. (The separate entry with /ç/ is from a separate source--the Random-House-based e...
- Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:46 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Something interesting about West Coast American English
- Replies: 44
- Views: 11267
Re: Something interesting about West Coast American English
As far as I know, the historical development in standard English is as follows: /l/ lost in -alk words resulting in /ɔːk/, which makes sense if we assume it was some kind of vocalization of /l/ to [w] in this context that occured before the change of [au] (=[aw]) to /ɔː/. (I don't know if we actuall...
- Tue Jan 02, 2018 5:03 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: /ç/ vs. /x/ in German
- Replies: 22
- Views: 6552
Re: /ç/ vs. /x/ in German
The British definition from Collins given on the linked page (which uses IPA) does give the transcription /ˈaiçman/. I don't see /ˈaɪxˌmɑn/ anywhere on that page, actually. The Random-House-based transcription is " ahy kh -mahn"; presumably whoever designed Dictionary.com's non-IPA transcription sys...
- Mon Jan 01, 2018 4:48 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Quick question about French
- Replies: 7
- Views: 3109
Re: Quick question about French
Among the vowels of French: - /a i ɛ ɑ ɔ œ u/ can readily appear before a final /j/ ( maille, fille, paye, bâille, momoï, feuille, bouille ). - /o e ə ø/ can't, but that's not very surprising since they rarely appear before a final consonant. Are there any cases at all where /e/ or /ə/ occurs befor...