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Kath, This is very strange as I thought I already posted a response more than a week ago – and now I don't see it anywhere. Well, perhaps I made a mistake so here it is again as well as far as I can remember: The double writing of the stops is problematic due to the ambiguity: In addition to the int...

Kath, I am perhaps unable to follow your comment "Which doesn't apply in this case, since here we have CVCCCV, with three consonants", if referring to Hitt. ḫar-ap-pí-, but I'll try anyway: All late Anatolian languages confirm that the Hittite gemination — like -pp- here — was not a cluster of two c...

Kath, 1. In laryngeal theory, when there is a vowel quality allegedly from a syllabic resonant preceded by a laryngeal, it is taken (Risch's rule) that the original quality of that laryngeal is reflected in Greek. In this case . ἀργό- (a.) ‘schnell beweglich : swift’ (GEW 1:132, ἀργός) most certainl...

Sumelic, It is difficult to give a single answer to your inquiry, because three versions of three-laryngealism have been presented in the post-classical theory, all with different treatment of h3. These are: 1. Eichner's theory – with only "h2" preserved in Hittite 2. Melchert's theory – with "h2" f...

Kathy, 1. Maced. ἀργιό·πους : Arm. arci·w do not point to a zero grade, but to Indo-European /a/. Regarding the connection between the epithets meaning "moving" this is quite understandable, because the root PIE √hɑr- meant just that, not only in PIE *hɑor- -› Hitt.etc. √har- "eagle, bird" but in PI...

Please, pick your theory.

Good luck.

https://www.academia.edu/25121020/The_L ... able_Model

I think the price is very reasonable, less than 40 euros instead of a normal (from 160-200 euros).

But be that as it may, I have a pdf, of course, and will add it to the link after I've assisted Wékwos a little.

J.

In academia.edu you may opt to link to the publisher (and the journal), which is in this case opted for:
http://www.librairie-epona.fr/nouveautes/wekwos-2.html

Enjoy!

Jouna

Hi to all, "The Laryngeal Theory has no Theory: Incompatibility with the Anatolian Data excludes a Viable Model" In an article in 1988 Heiner Eichner put forth the situation in the field very simply: It's the three- or monolaryngealism, criticising the latter for the lack of independent theory. In m...

Kath & why not others, In PIE Lexicon we use a set of revised IE sound laws in which the errors of the earlier suggestions have been removed to the effect that we are capable of generating the IE data in a nearly flawless manner. In the case of the root PIE *stɑh- ‘stehen’ we've corrected Saussure'...

Kath & why not others, In PIE Lexicon we use a set of revised IE sound laws in which the errors of the earlier suggestions have been removed to the effect that we are capable of generating the IE data in a nearly flawless manner. In the case of the root PIE *stɑh- ‘stehen’ we've corrected Saussure's...

Kath, I have a great confidence to the rules in question, because the related correspondences indicate that indeed there is a vowel PIE *ɑ = Neogr. *ǝ = de Saussure *A present in the correspondences in question. I don't actually think there's too much doubt about the rules, because – to quote the ou...

Zju The four forms belong together and therefore they need to contain the same phonemes in the root viz. Dental + Laryngeal + Nasal + Palatovelar + Velar. In addition they need to simultaneously explain the alternations in the colouring of the root vowel as well as the alternations of the voice and ...

Kath, In correspondences of the real (actual) etymology there are four oppositions T : Th : D : Dɦ, all of which need to be fully reconstructed in order to get the reconstruction right, regardless of whether we accept the series Th (and Dɦ) as original or not. To illustrate my point (using reconstru...

Kath, Yes, but no: There are not three but four series in PIE correspondence sets, just as in Sanskrit, T : Th : D : Dɦ. In the absence of the series Th there's a gap in distinctions that the Glottalic Theory can display, which is really irritating in Gamkrelidze & Ivanov, who prefer to write their ...

Hi @ all, I see that there is a lot of discussion on the glottalic hypothesis with assumptions more or less equaling to *T(h) T' D(h). Now, I am not sure whether any of you has actually seen the consequences of such a theory in reality, and if not, please read the book of T.V. Gamkrelidze and V. V. ...

Dear Friends, During this summer the PIE Lexicon project will complete the 1st phase of the coding of PIE Lexicon @ http://pielexicon.hum.helsinki.fi the platform constituting an Operational System (OS) PIE Lexicon in which the entire management of IE languages has been fully digitised. Due to the c...

@ Jal, 2+3 clusivity & sangi39 I've been (and still am) under enormous pressure due to the deadlines of the articles, therefore barely having time to comment, but absolutely not with seconds it would take to learn how to use the editor. But I'll follow your instructions next time commenting. Thank y...

MARCONATRIX WROTE: MidIr. Aisel ~ -il. Both are recorded. The first appears to be the regular development, the second probably due to the dative being generalised, this is not uncommon." JOUNA: I now reposted the site having opted MidIr. aisel as the regular form – and the red is automatically remov...

The LCS have put it online, in various formats even. See? Their stuff is sometimes useful. http://library.conlang.org/web/lingon.html See the entry for "PIE Lexicon". So the word for 'towards' is *(h₃)bʰi. Surely some people have already noticed its similarity with the athematic instrumental ending...

All comments are the most welcome, Jouna OI Bárach (usually arna mbárach 'on the morrow'). You've missed the Common Celtic change of /ō/ > /ā/ (or in final syllables /ū/). This parallels /ē/ > /ī/, which means that CC had no long mid vowels, only /ī ā ū/. The Irish breaking of /ō/ > /ua/, /ē/ > /ia...

However, analogy is a very marginal phenomenon in comparison to the regular ones so this is hardly a big deal... I disagree. Analogy is a very pervasive phenomenon. Just take a look at the history of strong verbs in English. I had the most ancient IE languages in my mind, of course, an insignifican...

I had the most ancient IE languages in my mind, of course, an insignificant residue of analogy (or irregularity in general) appearing there. Also, the "analogy" in the later stages of the languages is usually simply a series of successive losses of bases, the functions of which are taken over by th...

However, analogy is a very marginal phenomenon in comparison to the regular ones so this is hardly a big deal... I disagree. Analogy is a very pervasive phenomenon. Just take a look at the history of strong verbs in English. I had the most ancient IE languages in my mind, of course, an insignifican...

2. The explanation "Celtic *bozd- ~ guzd-, which was then regularised into buzd-." is not acceptable from the point of view of PIE Lexicon, where only regular explanations are accepted. Analogy, levelling and all sort of irregularity is indicated in red. An example of this is available in two Greek...