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by Pabappa
Sun Apr 05, 2015 7:08 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
Replies: 2225
Views: 468273

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread

A bit offtopic I just wanted to mention that one of my newest conlangs is going to have /pʷ p t k kʷ/ and /d g gʷ/ with no /b/ or /bʷ/ and it made me think of PIE. The reason is that it gots its voiced stops from previously existing voiced fricatives, but the parent language's labial voiced fricativ...
by Pabappa
Thu Mar 26, 2015 11:02 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Lexicon Building
Replies: 4308
Views: 815204

Re: Lexicon Building

Wāja: nyawuləd kwīm - "upright blackfish" Nya "fish" suffixed with passive participle of " wulu " adjectival form of "black" and kwīm which is present participle of verb kwi "to be vertical, to stand, to be upright" next: company with limited liability (along with an abbreviation if possible) Im go...
by Pabappa
Tue Mar 24, 2015 10:08 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Lexicon Building
Replies: 4308
Views: 815204

Re: Lexicon Building

Theocracy: Khulls: Ḳʷlas for a nation governed by the God Ḳʷ. I do not have a name for the form of government itself. Poswa: Kypiššep for the government itself and Kymiri for a nation or state governed directly by God. Note that in this planet, gods are visible and the primary question is which ones...
by Pabappa
Tue Mar 24, 2015 8:45 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: The 10000 syllable phonology challenge! (kitchen sinks ahoy)
Replies: 26
Views: 8213

Re: The 10000 syllable phonology challenge! (kitchen sinks a

Soryr, I dont know why I wrote Lao even though I knew it was Hmong. Anyway here's my entry: Gaġʷîi is a language spoken along the south coast of Nama by humans and penguins. Although evolved from a language with heavy consonant clusters, its interspecies nature requires a simpler phonological struct...
by Pabappa
Mon Mar 23, 2015 10:13 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: The 10000 syllable phonology challenge! (kitchen sinks ahoy)
Replies: 26
Views: 8213

Re: The 10000 syllable phonology challenge! (kitchen sinks a

No diphthongs? Or long vowels? I can kind of stretch (no pun intended) the definitions of "vowel" or "consonant" if I want to cheat. e.g. Lao has phonemic /pl/, so maybe Khulls can have phonemic /kʷšl/. But no I wont do that. I will only say Im working on a conlang named Khulls that is not CV only, ...
by Pabappa
Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:20 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Coincidentally Identical Phonologies
Replies: 21
Views: 5610

Re: Coincidentally Identical Phonologies

Proto-Dravidian have bunch of PoA, no fricatives, and voicing distinction... just like stereotypical australian languages. Yeah and its really tempting to connect this with the new evidence that sailors from India settled Australia around 2500 BC, right around the time Proto-Pama-Nyungan was spread...
by Pabappa
Fri Mar 06, 2015 8:30 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Chinese pronunciation of Japanese names
Replies: 27
Views: 8050

Re: Chinese pronunciation of Japanese names

I asked the same question once (maybe it wasnt here) and I dont remember the answer. All I know is Japanese coinages using Chinese vocabulary seem to be pronounced using the normal Chinese sounds of whatever dialect the speaker uses. e.g. Mandarin for haiku is "páijù", just as if Mandarin had had a ...
by Pabappa
Wed Mar 04, 2015 5:35 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
Replies: 2225
Views: 468273

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread

I love your reconstruction. It's nice to see people who still believe in the two-dorsal theory. But mostly I just like how much more beautiful it makes PIE words look when laryngeals are treated as normal consonants and the vowels are not pushed to the extreme of monotony (no pun intended). That PDF...
by Pabappa
Wed Mar 04, 2015 12:17 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Coincidentally Identical Phonologies
Replies: 21
Views: 5610

Re: Coincidentally Identical Phonologies

Europe clusters fairly well with the Austronesian languages of Southeast Asia in terms of phonotactics, though I wouldnt be surprised if you could go through the entire list of 1200+ languages and not find a single exact match to any European language's phonology, primarily because of the vowel sys...
by Pabappa
Mon Feb 23, 2015 10:37 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
Replies: 2225
Views: 468273

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread

That theory is a lot more interesting, I think, although still not without problems. I think if you identify the laryngeals with original voiced fricatives, which then mostly disappear and in some cases leave behind a vowel, that leaves only the voiceless fricatives, which then change to voiced ones...
by Pabappa
Mon Feb 23, 2015 9:16 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
Replies: 2225
Views: 468273

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread

One of the flaws, I think, with that theory is that you need to come up with a good explanation for why most of the voiceless fricatives disappeared but the voiced fricatives survived and even hardened into stops in most branches of the family.
by Pabappa
Sun Feb 22, 2015 9:50 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Lexicon Building
Replies: 4308
Views: 815204

Re: Lexicon Building

Ngolu: lehi :: to be forgiven (by DAT , for TOP ); DAT forgives / pardons NOM Next: jeans Clothes in general are pretty culture-bound on this planet; the Poswobs were even named after a wide-brimmed miniskirt that distinguished their women from all other tribes in early history. Neither men nor wom...
by Pabappa
Fri Feb 20, 2015 9:53 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
Replies: 2225
Views: 468273

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread

The Proto-Celtic shift of ft > xt is at least 1000 years older than that of Dutch, and was part of a wider shift of all other plosives to /x/ before /t/, and /f/ was a plostive because it came from /p/. Unless a similar shift happened within Celtic later on I cant see any way this could have influen...
by Pabappa
Tue Feb 17, 2015 10:01 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
Replies: 2225
Views: 468273

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread

What developed into eastern Romance had -as as the nom. fem. plural, not CL -ae... don't know if that's attested anywhere but it's the only thing that fits our data. Besides that, I don't know if I can think of anything else that differs systematically btw CL and proto-romance.... Thats arguable .....
by Pabappa
Mon Feb 16, 2015 8:27 am
Forum: None of the above
Topic: The dream thread
Replies: 1807
Views: 324621

Re: The dream thread

Yeah its me again. ---- Pharazon got in a fight at an airport and killed someone without meaning to. The other guy I think was saying "come get me!" or something like that as a challenge. When the news broke, literally everyone from the ZBB sided with pharazon, and although he was convicted of mansl...
by Pabappa
Sat Feb 14, 2015 10:53 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: How do you render quotes, titles, proper names etc.?
Replies: 2
Views: 1608

Re: How do you render quotes, titles, proper names etc.?

All I know is that I want asterisks for emphasis. Even though this is an a priori language with no contact from Earth languages, I think the asterisk could arise on its own with a similar meaning to what is used here. (But it is full height, unlike the English one.) Oddly this was one of the first t...
by Pabappa
Sun Feb 08, 2015 7:04 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Chlorophyliac humans, binary stars and boiling oceans
Replies: 51
Views: 10403

Re: Chlorophyliac humans, binary stars and boiling oceans

I like the purple idea. Chlorophyll only won on Earth because green is the color that the sun emits very strongly but yet gets through to shallow water bottoms the best, which is where the first plants evidently grew up. And in the process it turned the entire plant kingdom green. So I dont know if ...
by Pabappa
Fri Feb 06, 2015 10:55 pm
Forum: None of the above
Topic: The Official ZBB Quote Thread
Replies: 2878
Views: 655961

Re: The Official ZBB Quote Thread

I don't think pidgins have a fixed word order, as they are typially not yet codified enough. As for creoles I have some knowledge of, Caribbean creoles are all SVO (as are the related African West coast English based creoles such as Krio), and afaik Tok Pisin is as well (as the name itself shows). ...
by Pabappa
Thu Feb 05, 2015 9:55 am
Forum: None of the above
Topic: What do the rank names mean in Verdurian?
Replies: 20
Views: 8369

Re: What do the rank names mean in Verdurian?

Even the name is a Romance loan: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/verdura But yeah, I believe Zomp started working on Verdurian when he was a teenager or even younger, and has made few changes to the basic vocabulary since then. The page says copyright 1998 but it was already fully fleshed out by 2001...
by Pabappa
Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:12 pm
Forum: None of the above
Topic: The dream thread
Replies: 1807
Views: 324621

Re: The dream thread

Another dream I had I was in some sort of school-like place, I don't remember much but there was a nurse's office where a Hina was stationed, though she didn't seem to be in there when I looked, though there were a couple of other people just standing around in there. At another point we were in a ...
by Pabappa
Sun Feb 01, 2015 8:46 am
Forum: None of the above
Topic: The dream thread
Replies: 1807
Views: 324621

Re: The dream thread

I was visiting rleatives in Aruba and while I was out enjoying myuself, someone tld me my car was gone. Someone else's car was also ogne. I went out to look for it, and figured calling the police to let them know it was stolen would work well because it would be one of the few US cars around. But I ...
by Pabappa
Sun Jan 25, 2015 9:02 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Question re Origin of Uvulars
Replies: 23
Views: 4705

Re: Question re Origin of Uvulars

Wow, Chemnitz German merged /b ~ p/ and /d ~ t/ but kept /g ~ k/ distinct as /k/ vs /kʰ/ and now it even has /q/! Still though, it does seem to suggest that [q] is the least common pronunciation of the four /r/'s, and I would imagine it'd be most common at the beginning of a word and least common be...
by Pabappa
Sun Jan 25, 2015 7:28 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Question re Origin of Uvulars
Replies: 23
Views: 4705

Re: Question re Origin of Uvulars

It says it on Wikipedia, but in that case, by postvelar they dont mean uvular, but just a velar that's farther back then average.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiceless ... currence_2
by Pabappa
Sat Jan 24, 2015 4:29 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Diaeresis in English ortography
Replies: 35
Views: 8491

Re: Diaeresis in English ortography

Plus it makes no sense for "beautiful", which has /ju/, not /iu/. And even if you say bee-yootiful, it doesn't divide into <ea> + <u>. We inherit the whole <eau> from French. And in, I think, all the other cases ‹eau› stands for /oʊ/ instead (note esp. beau ); so I'm imagining an analysis that /i/ ...
by Pabappa
Fri Jan 23, 2015 11:39 pm
Forum: L&L Museum
Topic: A guide to small consonant inventories
Replies: 129
Views: 79941

Re: A guide to small consonant inventories

Old Basque is often analysed with 9 consonants : /p t l r k s z n h/ I believe. A counterexample to the /p n/ implies /m/ rule. The modern reflexes of all stops are voiced unless doubled, so one could propose they were voiced in Old Basque as well. (The Trask Basque dictionary does this, and even l...