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- Tue Aug 16, 2016 5:20 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: How to design a non-European phonology
- Replies: 622
- Views: 171032
Re: How to design a non-European phonology
Well, Tz'raich/Tz'reichs/Tz'aichskekohnr/how many names does this need was designed to be somewhat European-ish, but not SAE. I think it's probably a bit more European-ish than I wanted, but it's still not SAE, so I'll leave the phonology alone because I want to do grammar, not work on stupid phonol...
- Tue Aug 16, 2016 3:45 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: The SAE Grammar Test
- Replies: 23
- Views: 9037
The SAE Grammar Test
A while back there was the SAE (Phonology) Test. However, the SAE Sprachbund was initially defined primarily, if not exclusively, by grammatical features, and anyways, I get bored as hell of talking about phonology all the time when we can talk about syntax, morphology, pragmatics, and all the fun s...
- Fri Aug 05, 2016 4:19 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The Innovative Usage Thread
- Replies: 2452
- Views: 425988
Re: The Innovative Usage Thread
What really baffles me is the people who appear to earnestly be saying "more ...er" and "most ...est", which doesn't really bother me since it's not making English into a degenerate analytic language (I mean, one of the first examples I heard was "most expensivest") but still makes me go like "wher...
- Fri Aug 05, 2016 2:04 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The Innovative Usage Thread
- Replies: 2452
- Views: 425988
Re: The Innovative Usage Thread
Anyone else find themselves voicing the initial consonant of facility ? Yes, I can confirm that I do this. But isn't this more or less an established American English thing? As in "little," "at all," "water," etc. I was wondering if others here often hear or use the expression more + adjective for ...
- Thu Aug 04, 2016 6:06 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The Innovative Usage Thread
- Replies: 2452
- Views: 425988
Re: The Innovative Usage Thread
No, bu Ive heard a lot of people voicing /s/ in various positions. That combined with turning the th-sounds into /d/ in many dialects makes me think English is finally turning into other W. Germanic languages. If you hear anyone lenit their fortis stops to fricatives and affricates, please tell me, ...
- Tue Aug 02, 2016 8:52 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Cases
- Replies: 9
- Views: 3269
Re: Cases
Well, most of the time I see a suppressive case, it means "on (the surface of)", not over/above. Some languages with lots of cases do have case concord though. The Uralic languages I've studied (which isn't much, as I'm not really into Uralic) have it, and some languages I've studied with large case...
- Tue Aug 02, 2016 3:47 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Cases
- Replies: 9
- Views: 3269
Re: Cases
Well, what if you have case concord? I've never heard of adposition concord.
- Tue Aug 02, 2016 2:46 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Cases
- Replies: 9
- Views: 3269
Cases
OK, is there a reason certain cases don't seem to be attested? I mean like "location above" and "movement beside/past" among a few others I can think of. Some of the unattested cases are really common as adpositions too (like "over/above" and "besides"). This makes me think it might not be such a go...
- Tue Aug 02, 2016 2:42 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Estonian is a conlang.
- Replies: 17
- Views: 4908
Re: Estonian is a conlang.
Henry Schoolcraft was a real-life conworlder. Back when my homestate of Michigan was being organized he named a number of counties and cities just by pulling the names out of his ass. Names are arbitrary, which is to say they're all to some extant or another the result out-of-ass-pulling. But it's ...
- Thu Jun 02, 2016 12:54 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Most Logical Word Order
- Replies: 19
- Views: 6191
Re: Most Logical Word Order
No grammatical feature is more logical than any other, as far as natural languages are concerned. You can make an SVO language if you want but that isn't more logical. I would say the most logical word order is to put the most important word first but I can't prove that's more logical so I can't cla...
- Thu Dec 31, 2015 7:09 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Share Your Conreligions
- Replies: 25
- Views: 11085
Re: Share Your Conreligions
I wasn't talking about the Western conception of magic. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_(paranormal) "It is believed that ʔụk is dangerous by its very nature, like a poison, and that men brimming with ʔụk can sometimes bring harm to people, livestock, or crops without even being aware of it. F...
- Thu Dec 31, 2015 5:58 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Share Your Conreligions
- Replies: 25
- Views: 11085
Re: Share Your Conreligions
Well, the thing with ʔụk doesn't make sense. Women are generally considered to have more powerful magic than men in traditional societies from everything I've read and heard (including violent magic that harms and even kills people), and that kind of attitude survived in Europe through women being c...
- Wed Dec 30, 2015 6:36 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Conscripts
- Replies: 20
- Views: 6974
Re: Conscripts
Is a hybrid logographic-alphabetic script a good idea? Egyptian was a hybrid logographic-abjad script, so all you need is vowels.
- Tue Dec 29, 2015 3:17 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Analytic proto-language for an agglutinative conlang
- Replies: 6
- Views: 2894
Re: Analytic proto-language for an agglutinative conlang
I just edited my post a lot. Sorry.
- Tue Dec 29, 2015 3:08 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Analytic proto-language for an agglutinative conlang
- Replies: 6
- Views: 2894
Re: Analytic proto-language for an agglutinative conlang
Well, if you have more than one possible order of different elements in a sentence, the one that gives you syntax is not necessarily going to be the most common one. For example, Scandinavian languages and Icelandic have suffixed articles rather than prefixed articles even though earlier Old Norse h...
- Mon Dec 28, 2015 4:14 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Conscripts
- Replies: 20
- Views: 6974
Re: Conscripts
Syllabary. But have it develop from the logographs...and incorporate a few of the logographs as grammatical morphograms, or something. A syllabary, for a language with syllables like khfräs, ⱨoskh, ⱪwornths, zjmäckt, thröpt, wanth, skiist, zjnett, ⱨaafs, ⱨwett, ⱪapf, dlon, rors... How? That's the w...
- Mon Dec 28, 2015 1:56 pm
- Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
- Topic: Conscripts
- Replies: 20
- Views: 6974
Conscripts
I was making a logographic script, but I had a couple of people tell me I shouldn't make a logographic script since it's for a "polysynthetic" language and not anything remotely like Chinese. Both of them were like "make an alphabet". However, I feel like making alphabets is too European, plus, ever...
- Wed Dec 16, 2015 1:20 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Accents
- Replies: 25
- Views: 6928
Accents
Someone told me recently that I have a non-native speaker-sounding accent in English (not in exactly those words, it was more "You have an accent! What kind of accent do you have? *insert foreign language accent guesses rather than expected things like Southern here*). I'm sort of bewildered, becaus...
- Sat Nov 28, 2015 5:13 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Stops in English
- Replies: 7
- Views: 2830
Stops in English
OK, does anyone know what the difference between the two sets of stops in English is? It's not voicing, because I'm pretty sure I say dogs as [dɑks], but it's still clearly distinct from docks. I think docks might have a preglottalized k or something, I'm not sure.
- Fri Nov 20, 2015 10:13 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: "The IPA is seriously deficient..."
- Replies: 16
- Views: 4271
Re: "The IPA is seriously deficient..."
The first thing is useless since it doesn't tell you the environments for each phoneme, aside from being poorly designed with the subscript 0 vs. O. The second script is impossible to read because all the symbols are too similar. Also, epiglottal fricatives and trills are the same thing and don't ne...
- Sun Nov 01, 2015 11:47 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The Innovative Usage Thread
- Replies: 2452
- Views: 425988
Re: The Innovative Usage Thread
Once I saw someone put a prepositional phrase after an attributive adjective. I wish I could remember what it was. You mean like "a funny-in-a-stupid-way joke", something like that? There weren't any hyphens, but I'd have to see it to be able to analyaze it. I also could have sworn I just heard som...
- Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:06 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: The Innovative Usage Thread
- Replies: 2452
- Views: 425988
Re: The Innovative Usage Thread
Once I saw someone put a prepositional phrase after an attributive adjective. I wish I could remember what it was.
- Sun Aug 30, 2015 12:40 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Rules for accented sounds like
- Replies: 4
- Views: 1833
Re: Rules for accented sounds like
Actually, here's one database with a lot of people from everywhere speaking that I use sometimes when I try to do and/or analyze accents: http://accent.gmu.edu/index.php Thanks, I know about this database. Unfortunately, from my point of view, it contains sounds rather than phonetic rules. Well, yo...
- Fri Aug 28, 2015 1:18 am
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Whence aspirated stops and nasal vowels?
- Replies: 70
- Views: 18342
Re: Whence aspirated stops and nasal vowels?
I was just inferring that since having a /t͡ɬ / seems to require an /ɬ/ that it might be the same for /d͡ɮ/ and /ɮ/. Also, besides the /hr r/ ones, there's no devoicing... As far as I can tell /dɮ/ doesn't even exist. Most sources I've found that list /dɮ/ (actually generally they use <dl>) refer t...
- Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:17 pm
- Forum: Languages & Linguistics
- Topic: Whence aspirated stops and nasal vowels?
- Replies: 70
- Views: 18342
Re: Whence aspirated stops and nasal vowels?
tʰl or kl kʰl > t͡ɬ t͡ɬʰ or hr r > kʟ̥ gʟ > tɬʰ tɬ Does that mean /dl/ would also have to (not possibly, but necessarily) turn into /d͡ɮ/? If so, does that mean the language would gain an /ɮ/ too? For starters, a component of affricate or a laterally-released consonant need not be an independent ph...