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by HoskhMatriarch
Tue Aug 16, 2016 5:20 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: How to design a non-European phonology
Replies: 622
Views: 166729

Re: How to design a non-European phonology

Well, Tz'raich/Tz'reichs/Tz'aichskekohnr/how many names does this need was designed to be somewhat European-ish, but not SAE. I think it's probably a bit more European-ish than I wanted, but it's still not SAE, so I'll leave the phonology alone because I want to do grammar, not work on stupid phonol...
by HoskhMatriarch
Tue Aug 16, 2016 3:45 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: The SAE Grammar Test
Replies: 23
Views: 8857

The SAE Grammar Test

A while back there was the SAE (Phonology) Test. However, the SAE Sprachbund was initially defined primarily, if not exclusively, by grammatical features, and anyways, I get bored as hell of talking about phonology all the time when we can talk about syntax, morphology, pragmatics, and all the fun s...
by HoskhMatriarch
Fri Aug 05, 2016 4:19 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Innovative Usage Thread
Replies: 2452
Views: 413396

Re: The Innovative Usage Thread

What really baffles me is the people who appear to earnestly be saying "more ...er" and "most ...est", which doesn't really bother me since it's not making English into a degenerate analytic language (I mean, one of the first examples I heard was "most expensivest") but still makes me go like "wher...
by HoskhMatriarch
Fri Aug 05, 2016 2:04 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Innovative Usage Thread
Replies: 2452
Views: 413396

Re: The Innovative Usage Thread

Anyone else find themselves voicing the initial consonant of facility ? Yes, I can confirm that I do this. But isn't this more or less an established American English thing? As in "little," "at all," "water," etc. I was wondering if others here often hear or use the expression more + adjective for ...
by HoskhMatriarch
Thu Aug 04, 2016 6:06 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Innovative Usage Thread
Replies: 2452
Views: 413396

Re: The Innovative Usage Thread

No, bu Ive heard a lot of people voicing /s/ in various positions. That combined with turning the th-sounds into /d/ in many dialects makes me think English is finally turning into other W. Germanic languages. If you hear anyone lenit their fortis stops to fricatives and affricates, please tell me, ...
by HoskhMatriarch
Tue Aug 02, 2016 8:52 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Cases
Replies: 9
Views: 3167

Re: Cases

Well, most of the time I see a suppressive case, it means "on (the surface of)", not over/above. Some languages with lots of cases do have case concord though. The Uralic languages I've studied (which isn't much, as I'm not really into Uralic) have it, and some languages I've studied with large case...
by HoskhMatriarch
Tue Aug 02, 2016 3:47 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Cases
Replies: 9
Views: 3167

Re: Cases

Well, what if you have case concord? I've never heard of adposition concord.
by HoskhMatriarch
Tue Aug 02, 2016 2:46 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Cases
Replies: 9
Views: 3167

Cases

OK, is there a reason certain cases don't seem to be attested? I mean like "location above" and "movement beside/past" among a few others I can think of. Some of the unattested cases are really common as adpositions too (like "over/above" and "besides"). This makes me think it might not be such a go...
by HoskhMatriarch
Tue Aug 02, 2016 2:42 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Estonian is a conlang.
Replies: 17
Views: 4802

Re: Estonian is a conlang.

Henry Schoolcraft was a real-life conworlder. Back when my homestate of Michigan was being organized he named a number of counties and cities just by pulling the names out of his ass. Names are arbitrary, which is to say they're all to some extant or another the result out-of-ass-pulling. But it's ...
by HoskhMatriarch
Thu Jun 02, 2016 12:54 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Most Logical Word Order
Replies: 19
Views: 6061

Re: Most Logical Word Order

No grammatical feature is more logical than any other, as far as natural languages are concerned. You can make an SVO language if you want but that isn't more logical. I would say the most logical word order is to put the most important word first but I can't prove that's more logical so I can't cla...
by HoskhMatriarch
Thu Dec 31, 2015 7:09 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Share Your Conreligions
Replies: 25
Views: 10715

Re: Share Your Conreligions

I wasn't talking about the Western conception of magic. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_(paranormal) "It is believed that ʔụk is dangerous by its very nature, like a poison, and that men brimming with ʔụk can sometimes bring harm to people, livestock, or crops without even being aware of it. F...
by HoskhMatriarch
Thu Dec 31, 2015 5:58 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Share Your Conreligions
Replies: 25
Views: 10715

Re: Share Your Conreligions

Well, the thing with ʔụk doesn't make sense. Women are generally considered to have more powerful magic than men in traditional societies from everything I've read and heard (including violent magic that harms and even kills people), and that kind of attitude survived in Europe through women being c...
by HoskhMatriarch
Wed Dec 30, 2015 6:36 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Conscripts
Replies: 20
Views: 6825

Re: Conscripts

Is a hybrid logographic-alphabetic script a good idea? Egyptian was a hybrid logographic-abjad script, so all you need is vowels.
by HoskhMatriarch
Tue Dec 29, 2015 3:08 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Analytic proto-language for an agglutinative conlang
Replies: 6
Views: 2831

Re: Analytic proto-language for an agglutinative conlang

Well, if you have more than one possible order of different elements in a sentence, the one that gives you syntax is not necessarily going to be the most common one. For example, Scandinavian languages and Icelandic have suffixed articles rather than prefixed articles even though earlier Old Norse h...
by HoskhMatriarch
Mon Dec 28, 2015 4:14 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Conscripts
Replies: 20
Views: 6825

Re: Conscripts

Syllabary. But have it develop from the logographs...and incorporate a few of the logographs as grammatical morphograms, or something. A syllabary, for a language with syllables like khfräs, ⱨoskh, ⱪwornths, zjmäckt, thröpt, wanth, skiist, zjnett, ⱨaafs, ⱨwett, ⱪapf, dlon, rors... How? That's the w...
by HoskhMatriarch
Mon Dec 28, 2015 1:56 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Conscripts
Replies: 20
Views: 6825

Conscripts

I was making a logographic script, but I had a couple of people tell me I shouldn't make a logographic script since it's for a "polysynthetic" language and not anything remotely like Chinese. Both of them were like "make an alphabet". However, I feel like making alphabets is too European, plus, ever...
by HoskhMatriarch
Wed Dec 16, 2015 1:20 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Accents
Replies: 25
Views: 6783

Accents

Someone told me recently that I have a non-native speaker-sounding accent in English (not in exactly those words, it was more "You have an accent! What kind of accent do you have? *insert foreign language accent guesses rather than expected things like Southern here*). I'm sort of bewildered, becaus...
by HoskhMatriarch
Sat Nov 28, 2015 5:13 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Stops in English
Replies: 7
Views: 2773

Stops in English

OK, does anyone know what the difference between the two sets of stops in English is? It's not voicing, because I'm pretty sure I say dogs as [dɑks], but it's still clearly distinct from docks. I think docks might have a preglottalized k or something, I'm not sure.
by HoskhMatriarch
Fri Nov 20, 2015 10:13 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: "The IPA is seriously deficient..."
Replies: 16
Views: 4180

Re: "The IPA is seriously deficient..."

The first thing is useless since it doesn't tell you the environments for each phoneme, aside from being poorly designed with the subscript 0 vs. O. The second script is impossible to read because all the symbols are too similar. Also, epiglottal fricatives and trills are the same thing and don't ne...
by HoskhMatriarch
Sun Nov 01, 2015 11:47 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Innovative Usage Thread
Replies: 2452
Views: 413396

Re: The Innovative Usage Thread

Once I saw someone put a prepositional phrase after an attributive adjective. I wish I could remember what it was. You mean like "a funny-in-a-stupid-way joke", something like that? There weren't any hyphens, but I'd have to see it to be able to analyaze it. I also could have sworn I just heard som...
by HoskhMatriarch
Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:06 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Innovative Usage Thread
Replies: 2452
Views: 413396

Re: The Innovative Usage Thread

Once I saw someone put a prepositional phrase after an attributive adjective. I wish I could remember what it was.
by HoskhMatriarch
Sun Aug 30, 2015 12:40 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Rules for accented sounds like
Replies: 4
Views: 1778

Re: Rules for accented sounds like

Actually, here's one database with a lot of people from everywhere speaking that I use sometimes when I try to do and/or analyze accents: http://accent.gmu.edu/index.php Thanks, I know about this database. Unfortunately, from my point of view, it contains sounds rather than phonetic rules. Well, yo...
by HoskhMatriarch
Fri Aug 28, 2015 1:18 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Whence aspirated stops and nasal vowels?
Replies: 70
Views: 17921

Re: Whence aspirated stops and nasal vowels?

I was just inferring that since having a /t͡ɬ / seems to require an /ɬ/ that it might be the same for /d͡ɮ/ and /ɮ/. Also, besides the /hr r/ ones, there's no devoicing... As far as I can tell /dɮ/ doesn't even exist. Most sources I've found that list /dɮ/ (actually generally they use <dl>) refer t...
by HoskhMatriarch
Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:17 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Whence aspirated stops and nasal vowels?
Replies: 70
Views: 17921

Re: Whence aspirated stops and nasal vowels?

tʰl or kl kʰl > t͡ɬ t͡ɬʰ or hr r > kʟ̥ gʟ > tɬʰ tɬ Does that mean /dl/ would also have to (not possibly, but necessarily) turn into /d͡ɮ/? If so, does that mean the language would gain an /ɮ/ too? For starters, a component of affricate or a laterally-released consonant need not be an independent ph...