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by Vlürch
Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:20 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Voynich manuscript
Replies: 40
Views: 5447

Re: Voynich manuscript

But that was just some dude's art project in the eighties or something, right? "created by the Italian artist, architect, and industrial designer Luigi Serafini during thirty months, from 1976 to 1978." > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codex_Seraphinianus Okay, so it was in the seventies rather than...
by Vlürch
Sat Apr 21, 2018 9:14 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Nostratic, Eurasiatic, Mitian, ...
Replies: 217
Views: 20716

Re: Nostratic, Eurasiatic, Mitian, ...

Well, I'm not a scientist and am technically mentally ill, so anything I say should of course be rejected automatically. What the actual fuck? Nobody said this! Moreover, I also fit that description. I think he honestly believes that, though. Well, no one said it but it's probably true... I mean, I...
by Vlürch
Sat Apr 21, 2018 9:02 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Voynich manuscript
Replies: 40
Views: 5447

Re: Voynich manuscript

It's Old Turkic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6keMgLmFEk Interesting. I'm not really convinced, though, since A) they match individual letters to more than one letter in a way that a lot will be left to be resolved by context and B) if it was a Turkic language, there would presumably be longer ...
by Vlürch
Sat Apr 21, 2018 7:13 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Nostratic, Eurasiatic, Mitian, ...
Replies: 217
Views: 20716

Re: Nostratic, Eurasiatic, Mitian, ...

without including at least Altaic as well. You speak as if Altaic is a proven family. While I personally do believe there is some kind of deeper connection between the Altaic languages (at least the Micro-Altaic ones), what I said doesn't necessitate that to be true. All the different Altaic langua...
by Vlürch
Tue Mar 13, 2018 1:48 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Nostratic, Eurasiatic, Mitian, ...
Replies: 217
Views: 20716

Re: Nostratic, Eurasiatic, Mitian, ...

Sorry for derailing the other thread... I promise I won't do it again. I'll stick to the linguistic stuff and relevant history, avoiding politics and everything else that's irrelevant. This pdf about Indo-European loanwords in Uralic languages is really interesting. The author makes a bunch of impl...
by Vlürch
Mon Mar 12, 2018 4:27 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Haida and Na-Dene
Replies: 161
Views: 18577

Re: Haida and Na-Dene

Can we please all stop with the phrase "rape baby"? Rape doesn't belong in a discussion about ancient linguistic history. It's gross. I won't stop using it because that's exactly the term that would be used if it was an actual baby. Only by a psychopath. And no, you don't need me to explain to you ...
by Vlürch
Sun Mar 11, 2018 12:41 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Haida and Na-Dene
Replies: 161
Views: 18577

Re: Haida and Na-Dene

No serious linguist considers Finnish the "rape baby" of any IE language! That may be true, but unfortunately many Finns (and Russians and Swedes) do (or at least enough for me to have come across some several times (although admittedly less than those who know that Finnish isn't Indo-European; gen...
by Vlürch
Thu Mar 08, 2018 10:53 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Haida and Na-Dene
Replies: 161
Views: 18577

Re: Haida and Na-Dene

(…) Haida could easily be thrown into the mix, but I couldn't find anywhere what exactly the Haida word for human is; according to this pdf dictionary it's the same as their endonym, X̱aadas , but I'm not sure about its pronunciation. If Wikipedia's chart is correct, it should be /χaːd̥as/, but I d...
by Vlürch
Thu Mar 08, 2018 10:42 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 3108
Views: 222803

Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread

conlang [ko̞nlæŋ~kʰɔnlæŋ] conlangery [ko̞nlæŋːəɾi~kʰɔnlæŋːəɹ̠i] conworld [ko̞nʋʷø̞̈ːld~kʰɔn̪wɜːl̪d̪] constructed language [ko̞ns̪t̪ɾɐkt̪e̞d læŋwit͡ʃ~kʰɔnstɹ̠ɐkt̪əd læŋwid͡ʒ] I've finally fully accepted that my pronunciations are really inconsistent, so I'm not sure if there's even any point in me p...
by Vlürch
Thu Mar 08, 2018 9:00 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: 薬kusuri's 箱boxo part 3 [NP: Unnamed Lang ]
Replies: 7
Views: 1526

Re: 薬箱3 [NP: Doing sax.]

Like if there was some terrible youth trend of pronouncing cool words with a weird vowel. "shooting a gen", "driving a cor", "making leve and doing sax" idk Holy shit, I love you for this. :-D ...as for everything else, I can't really say anything except that I like the vowels and don't think it's ...
by Vlürch
Wed Feb 28, 2018 12:40 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Haida and Na-Dene
Replies: 161
Views: 18577

Re: Haida and Na-Dene

That's basically Starostin's method: combine the segments of the words from the compared languages into one long string, such that each language just has to delete some of them, and perhaps metathesize some of the remaining ones. That way, you can "prove" any relationship you want, but it has nothi...
by Vlürch
Wed Feb 28, 2018 12:05 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Are the h and ng sounds allophones?
Replies: 31
Views: 3514

Re: Are the h and ng sounds allophones?

More or less relevent to this thread, or at least the direction it has taken: in Finnish, /ŋ/ only exists intervocalically in inflected forms of words that have /nk/ [ŋk], eg. kenkä -> kengät (shoe -> shoes). Phonetically it's geminate or doubled [ŋː~ŋŋ], or at least occasionally [ŋg] for some peopl...
by Vlürch
Wed Feb 28, 2018 11:23 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Haida and Na-Dene
Replies: 161
Views: 18577

Re: Haida and Na-Dene

Something somewhat related to all this that I've thought about at random times. Even if it's probably a coincidence, I still think it's pretty cool. Inuktitut /inuk/ (human) Ainu /ai̯nu/ (human) Nivkh /ɲivx/ (human) Based on the similarities, a common ancestor word could be reconstructed: something ...
by Vlürch
Wed Jan 10, 2018 5:33 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 3108
Views: 222803

Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread

DISCLAIMER: I like a lot of things about America (definitely more than I dislike, at least), but I can't miss this opportunity to lightheartedly make fun of America and Americans. Please don't ban me? By process of elimination, I would understand "therapeutic," but I would indeed hear "thettapeutic...
by Vlürch
Wed Jan 10, 2018 4:33 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Haida and Na-Dene
Replies: 161
Views: 18577

Re: Haida and Na-Dene

I know this is a pretty big necrobump, but I just came across this long, long thing that's extremely relevant to this thread and can't resist the temptation to post about it: http://anthropogenesis.kinshipstudies.org/other-weblogs-covering-human-origins-research/bibliography-human-origins-and-amerin...
by Vlürch
Wed Jan 10, 2018 2:58 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 3108
Views: 222803

Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread

Pole, the wrote:therapeutic
Something like [θe̞ɾɐpju̟ːt̪ik~θɜɾa̠pjəʊ̯t̪ik~t̪ʰe̞ɾɐpjʉ̟ːt̪ik~t̪ʰɜɾa̠pju̟ːt̪ik]. I swear, if Americans/native English-speakers would hear that as "thettapeutic" and wouldn't understand, I'd facepalm so hard I'd need therapy... :P

pulchritudinous
delitescent
synderesis
by Vlürch
Tue Dec 12, 2017 7:22 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: What do you call this?
Replies: 302
Views: 32010

Re: What do you call this?

Alright, new question! What are these? https://www.tomasoabestratingen.nl/wp-content/uploads/bfi_thumb/pad-met-halfsteens-verband-met-kaseitjes-lxbq5ar5495ywo5tt75zlgeqt44qud8b4afwwv4ya0.jpg That's a 404. Also, the thing from the previous page ... I'd just call it a closet. Everything large enough ...
by Vlürch
Fri Dec 08, 2017 8:01 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Kinship: children of cousins?
Replies: 15
Views: 1245

Re: Kinship: children of cousins?

I can't wrap my head around the names of relatives even in Finnish, so English (let alone any other language) makes me feel like an idiot (probably because I am one). Anyway, Wiktionary lists in the translations for "first cousin once removed" the Altai word шаны , which I then googled and found thi...
by Vlürch
Fri Dec 08, 2017 5:54 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 3108
Views: 222803

Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread

Khmer: either [x̩mɜː] or [kʰə̆mɜː] foliage: [fo̞liəd͡ʒ] imma: [ɑmə~ɑə̯mɐ~ɑɪ̯mɑ], etc. are all good to me... [kʰæmˈboʊɾijən] Weird. I would expect [dʒ] and not [ɾ] there. It always makes me cringe when I hear "Cambodia" said in English for exactly that reason, and personally I'd say [kɐmboʊ̯d͡ʒən] ev...
by Vlürch
Mon Oct 09, 2017 1:07 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Voynich manuscript
Replies: 40
Views: 5447

Re: Voynich manuscript

I maintain that the best evidence points to either a magical/alchemical text or glossolalia. Yes, it is probably a magical or alchemical text. But whatever it is, it may have inspired a similar work in the 1970s. Which in turn has inspired several similar works since then. If I had any artistic abi...
by Vlürch
Tue Sep 26, 2017 10:08 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 3108
Views: 222803

Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread

As a general point: -ic and -is always have short /I/, not long /i/. Not distinguishing the qualities of these is one of the most stereotypical "silly foreigner accent" mistakes. But [i blah ] is short. :? Words like "meet" have a long [iː], and "meat" is a homophone or [miɪ̯t̪] if I really wanted ...
by Vlürch
Fri Sep 22, 2017 8:27 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 3108
Views: 222803

Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread

[ʔẽ] And then that gets reduced to [ʕ̩̃]... 8) How about ovoid and emesis ? The first is easy: /ˈoːvɔɪd/. Same here. As far as I know, the suffix "-oid" has no consistent effects on the pronunciation of the preceding part of the word, so it makes sense to pronounce the "ov-" as in "oval" and "ovum"...
by Vlürch
Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:36 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Voynich manuscript
Replies: 40
Views: 5447

Re: Voynich manuscript

Then there's also the possibility it's a natlang. I recall hearing it having some of the properties of East Asian languages, such as, iirc, full-word reduplication. It could be, but there are words being repeated three times. No language known to have ever existed does that AFAIK. The only way I ca...
by Vlürch
Fri Sep 22, 2017 3:57 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 3108
Views: 222803

Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread

Somehow today I managed to reduce "children's" so radically that my coworker heard "Chun's" and was like, "Who is Chun?" #mumblecore4life lol How about ovoid and emesis ? I'd say [oʊ̯ʋʷoi̯d] and [e̞mɜsis], but I'm not sure if that's correct; I mean, I know /v/ supposed to be [v], but I've noticed i...
by Vlürch
Fri Sep 22, 2017 2:48 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Singing pronunciation in different languages
Replies: 16
Views: 2153

Re: Singing pronunciation in different languages

Kyo (京), the vocalist of Dir en grey and Sukekiyo, pronounces things in ways that sound strange sometimes, but a big part of it is simply that he makes some weird sounds to begin with. But even in regular singing, especially in old songs like this one , the /ɾ/ is an acutal [l] at times. I know he's...