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by smii
Fri Apr 20, 2018 11:28 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Aʻatun Scratchpad: Inventory questions
Replies: 116
Views: 61478

Re: Altrunian Conlang Scratchpad: Inventory questions

Would /j→ɟ/ or /j→ʝ/ be more likely? I don't like the insertion of a /g/ phoneme where one never existed before (/ɟ/ sounds like <gy>). /j→ʝ/, definitely, but it's hardly worth noting. In Swedish at least, and probably other Scandinavian languages as well, <j> is a [ʝ] not [j], but they sound almos...
by smii
Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:19 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Altrunian Conlang Scratchpad: Additives
Replies: 12
Views: 8218

Re: Altrunian Conlang Scratchpad: Additives

English -er isn't augmentative - I really think you're misunderstanding what it means.
by smii
Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:47 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Altrunian Conlang Scratchpad: Additives
Replies: 12
Views: 8218

Re: Altrunian Conlang Scratchpad: Additives

At present, Altrunians make a deity's name into a verb by adding -ia(r)- [jɑ(ɹ)] to it. For example, Taras ['tɑ.ɹɑs] becomes taiaras ['tɑ.jɑ.rɑs], meaning hunt as either a noun or a verb. Hang on, if -ia(r)- makes a verb, how is taiaras either a noun or a verb? But I like the idea of a special suff...
by smii
Sat Dec 30, 2017 3:11 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Altrunian Conlang Scratchpad: Additives
Replies: 12
Views: 8218

Re: Altrunian Conlang Scratchpad: Additives

The names aren't for the structure: there isn't an 'augmentative structure' that's language independent. Superlatives and augmentatives are different things. Superlatives are a degree of comparison - they give the best or strongest example of something. But they can be marked in different ways, even...
by smii
Sat Dec 30, 2017 11:36 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Altrunian Conlang Scratchpad: Additives
Replies: 12
Views: 8218

Re: Altrunian Conlang Scratchpad: Additives

I think your confusing two types of morphology, derivational and inflectional. Derivational morphology takes one base word, like 'build' or 'child', and turns it into another word, like 'builder' or 'childhood'. But these are still lemmas (i.e. they have a dictionary entry). Inflectional morphology ...
by smii
Thu Dec 28, 2017 3:53 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Aʻatun Scratchpad: Inventory questions
Replies: 116
Views: 61478

Re: Altrunian Conlang Scratchpad: Inventory questions

/ð/ ad /x/ should really be with the fricatives, and I would put them in (normal brackets) if they only appear as allophones, but it looks fine otherwise. I would have expected /θ/ to have been the allophone of /t/, although /ð/ isn't impossible - weirder things happen all the time in language. I'm ...
by smii
Thu Dec 28, 2017 5:29 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Romanization challenge thread
Replies: 3842
Views: 842433

Re: Romanization challenge thread

/lɑkʰɑɾ/ /m n/ m n /b d dz dʑ g/ b d dz dj g /pʰ tʰ tsʰ tɕʰ kʰ/ p t ts tc k /tsʼ tɕʼ kʼ/ ts' tc' k' /z ʑ ɣ/ z j q /s ɕ x h/ s c x h /ɾ l/ r l /j w/ j v /i y u/ i ü u /e ø o/ e ö w /ɐ ɔ/ y o /æ ɑ/ ä a /nexɒdɐ kʼitɕʰwɐkʼɐzɐ wikʰæ kʰetʰmutɕʰæzɐ kʰejæ tʰe/ nexady k'itcwyk'yzy vikä ketmutcäzy kejä te /ɐt...
by smii
Mon Dec 18, 2017 4:54 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Aʻatun Scratchpad: Inventory questions
Replies: 116
Views: 61478

Re: Altrunian Conlang Scratchpad: Inventory questions

Just to make sure I understand correctly, I should record the voiceless phoneme before its voiced counterpart (e.g., /p b/) when transcribing the IPA for my conlangs, if both sounds exist. Yeah, generally speaking. I don't know why that's the convention, but it is. As for the IPA, we are on Earth, ...
by smii
Mon Dec 18, 2017 3:11 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Aʻatun Scratchpad: Inventory questions
Replies: 116
Views: 61478

Re: Altrunian Conlang Scratchpad: Inventory questions

Firstly, [k] and [g] are no more different than [p] and but its nice that it's not completely symmetrical. But more importantly, if the cultures have had no contact with Earth, how would they have come up with those characters? Also, all scripts should have a certain 'aesthetic' for lack of a better...
by smii
Sun Dec 17, 2017 11:33 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Aʻatun Scratchpad: Inventory questions
Replies: 116
Views: 61478

Re: Altrunian Conlang Scratchpad: Inventory questions

I feel like here might be a more appropriate place to continue than the Romanisation Challenge. Are [p] and distinct phonemes /p/ and /b/, or are they allophones of one underlying /p/? Also, what is up with those clusters, because you would need a very good reason to count them as one phoneme. And w...
by smii
Sun Dec 17, 2017 3:40 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Romanization challenge thread
Replies: 3842
Views: 842433

Re: Romanization challenge thread

I think I got your inventory right? /m n/ <m n> /p b t k g/ <p b t k g> /f v s z ʃ h/ <f v s z x h> /ɹ l j/ < r l j> /vl vɹ tl sv hl/ <vl vr tl sv hl> /ä e i o u aɪ̯/ < a e i o u ai> I'm not sure why you have those clusters unless they're the only clusters you're allowed within a syllable, but they ...
by smii
Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:26 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Gartul, p.4- Alphabet
Replies: 4
Views: 2375

Re: Gartul, p.4- Alphabet

yangfiretiger121 wrote:Another way to set your alphabet apart is using a single letter for contrasting phonemes. For example, my yet-to-be-completed conlang, Basic, uses the letter c for [s, z].
In a romanization or native alphabet?
by smii
Fri Oct 27, 2017 8:47 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Gartul, p.4- Alphabet
Replies: 4
Views: 2375

Re: Gartul, p.4- Alphabet

So your phonology is: /m n ɳ ɲ/ /p b t d tʃ dʒ ɟ k g/ /f v s z ʃ χ h/ /w r l j/ /i e ə a u/ /ia ai ue uə ua au/ (I'm interpreting /uə/ how you wrote it, rather than /ø/ or /œ/ like you described) but this doesn't really match up to the alphabet - you miss out sounds like /ɳ/ and /ɲ/, and add letters...
by smii
Thu Oct 26, 2017 3:01 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Singing pronunciation in different languages
Replies: 16
Views: 6136

Re: Singing pronunciation in different languages

I don't know if this is to do with my growing up in Albania and being surrounded by (mostly mid-west) American English rather than my native British English, but when I'm singing songs that I don't know were written by someone with a British accent, I'll suddenly get the cot-caught merger and dark l...
by smii
Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:29 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Gartul, p.3- Phonology
Replies: 13
Views: 4472

Re: Gartul, p.3- Phonology

I’d add k, but why c? C seems unnecessary. If you have voicing distinctions in /p/vs/b/, /t/vs/d/ and /k/vs/g/ etc. , it kinda makes sense to have /c/vs/ɟ/ as well. Again, its not necessary, and it would give the phonology an interesting flavour if it wasn't there. That would leave your consonant i...
by smii
Mon Oct 16, 2017 11:56 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Gartul, p.3- Phonology
Replies: 13
Views: 4472

Re: Gartul, p.3- Phonology

I don’t entirely know what you mean by ‘realistic.’ I tried to model it after the English vowel system, just variants on a, e, I, o, and u. Simply put, this would very much surprise me if I saw it in a natural language: /i/ and /ɪ/ sound very similar, so, to make it easier to tell words apart, /ɪ/ ...
by smii
Sun Aug 13, 2017 12:58 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 2827
Views: 614073

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

Would ɨ > y be realistic, if the original vowel system was /i ɛ u o ɑ/?
by smii
Thu Jun 01, 2017 4:13 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Romanization challenge thread
Replies: 3842
Views: 842433

Re: Romanization challenge thread

/p p' m w/ <b p m w> or <p p' m w> /t t' ð n ts tɬ s z ɬ l/ <d t dh n ts tl s z ll l> or <t t' d n c tɬ s z ɬ l> /tʃ tʃ' ʃ ʒ/ <dj tx x j> or <ć ć' ś ź> /tɕ tɕ' ɲ/ <dc tc nj> or <x x' ń> /k k' χ ʁ ʔ/ <g k h r '> or <k k' h r ʔ> /a æ: ɑ: ɛ e: eɪ ɔ o: oʊ i i: y: ɯ ɯ: u: ɝ: / <a aa/ae ao/aa e ee ei o oo...
by smii
Thu Apr 06, 2017 12:59 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Count to ten in your conlangs
Replies: 30
Views: 9960

Re: Count to ten in your conlangs

An old one, that I hadn't sent before:

Idyl

1 eme [eˈmeː]
2 seíz [seˈɪθ]
3 búra [bʊˈrɑː]
4 goro [goˈroː]
5 cýl [kʏl]
6 ciću [kiˈtʃuː]
7 carol [kɑˈrol]
8 bawu [bɑˈwuː]
9 pídu [pɪˈduː]
10 ca [kɑː]
by smii
Fri Feb 17, 2017 5:30 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Reverse Romanization Challenge Thread
Replies: 259
Views: 104746

Re: Reverse Romanization Challenge Thread

<a aa a̱ a̱a̱ e ee i ii o ȯ u uu u̇ u̇u̇ u̱ u̱u̱ y yy> /a a: ɑ ɑ: e e: i i: ɔ o ɤ ɤ: ɨ ɨ: ɯ ɯ: y y:/ <p pp t tt c cc k kk> /p p' t t' c c' k k'> <b bb d dd j jj g gg> /b ɓ d ɗ ɟ ʄ g ɠ> <m mm n nn> /m m: n n:/ <ch cch tj tjj ts tss tl tll tn tnn> /cç cç: tʃ tʃ: ts ts: tɬ tɬ: t n t n:/ <s ss v vv vh v...
by smii
Tue Feb 14, 2017 7:35 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Romanization challenge thread
Replies: 3842
Views: 842433

Re: Romanization challenge thread

You've got two sounds that alternate between velar and palatal realizations and you don't actually say what determines which realization is used. (I'm guessing from your sample passage that velars front to palatals before a front vowel, but you never confirmed this.) Also, you don't say what the na...
by smii
Mon Feb 13, 2017 4:14 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Romanization challenge thread
Replies: 3842
Views: 842433

Re: Romanization challenge thread

Lasé /m n ɳ (ɲ~ŋ)/ /p t ʈ c~k ʔ/ /b d g/ /ɸ β θ ð s ʂ h*/ /w ʍ r r̥ j ç/ /l ɭ ʎ/ Palatal realisation occurs before /i y iː yː ɪe ei yö/ /ɲ~ŋ/ is an allophone of /n/ before /c~k/, but is kept even with infixes, e.g. /iŋkel/ + /eθ/ -> /iŋeθkel/ /g/ doesn't have a palatal allophone, as it became /j/. ...
by smii
Sat Jan 21, 2017 10:03 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Slovene Resources
Replies: 1
Views: 1466

Slovene Resources

Does anybody know of any good Slovene resources? I'm going in the summer and, as any linguist would, have decided to learn at least some of the language. I found a couple of Memrise courses, and obviously Wikipedia has conjugation/declension tables (that I'm assuming are correct...), but I would app...
by smii
Sun Jan 01, 2017 2:07 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Sound Change Game
Replies: 2673
Views: 495979

Re: Sound Change Game

Doanu Lukpanic aileda [a'i.le.da] :> Novilanuo ailet [a'i.let]
Doanu Lukpanic aitulida [a.i'tu.li.da] :> Novilanuo aitulit [a.i'du.lit]
Doanu Lukpanic dokipewali [ˈdo.ki'pe.wɑ.li] :> Novilanuo tokipeval [to.gi'be.val]
Doanu Lukpanic wola [ˈ'wo.la] :> Novilanuo vol ['vol]
by smii
Sun Jan 01, 2017 2:02 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Romanization challenge thread
Replies: 3842
Views: 842433

Re: Romanization challenge thread

/'eːŋ.klʏʃ/ /m n ŋ/ <m n nn> /p b t d k g/ <p pp t tt k kk> /p͡f (b͡v) t͡s d͡z t͡ʃ d͡ʒ (c͡ç) (ɟ͡ʝ) k͡x (g͡ɣ)/ <b bb d dd c cc q qq g gg> /f v s z ʃ (ʒ) ç ʝ x (ɣ) h/ < f ff s ss z zz j jj x xx h> /r l/ <r l> /ɪ ʏ ʊ ɛ œ ɔ a / <i y w e o u a> /iː yː uː eː øː oː aː/ <ii yy ww ee oo uu aa> /'faː.dar ʊr d...