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by Nachtuil
Fri Dec 16, 2016 11:07 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Eldrin
Replies: 54
Views: 21820

Re: Eldrin

Ah ok. In English the "ing" ending does indicate a noun is in the progressive/continuous aspect, which are types of imperfective aspects but it also makes verbs nouns in what is called the "gerund" form. One can say "She likes frogs" with the same syntactic meaning as "She likes swimming". This diff...
by Nachtuil
Thu Dec 15, 2016 8:09 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Eldrin
Replies: 54
Views: 21820

Re: Eldrin

I myself would expect emuh to be in the locative, so "emuhjir". "At the start". Your word list document is helpful but you should look up how to do glossing to make it less laborious for readers to see what your doing. You can have your line of text, the floating line, and a translation. "emhujir" N...
by Nachtuil
Sun Dec 04, 2016 7:20 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Eldrin
Replies: 54
Views: 21820

Re: Eldrin

I will take a look when I can as it will be just as time intensive for me :)
by Nachtuil
Sat Dec 03, 2016 9:25 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Eldrin
Replies: 54
Views: 21820

Re: Eldrin

Also yea basically. That is the dative, ablative, locative split as I propose it to you. In the context of the three being there that to me seems a plausible breakdown. Cases don't have universal meanings that every language strictly adheres to. Some languages have a dative only for indirect objects...
by Nachtuil
Sat Dec 03, 2016 9:21 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Eldrin
Replies: 54
Views: 21820

Re: Eldrin

I definitely wouldn't call it random as there are functional benefits to having some nonconfiguratiinality. Like you can give prominence to different aspects of a sentence and avoid needing to develop some voices. The path you take is fine too though. Yeah a random generator can be a god send. You s...
by Nachtuil
Fri Dec 02, 2016 2:05 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Eldrin
Replies: 54
Views: 21820

Re: Eldrin

You could use Sur with other cases no problem. Ablative is normally away from something so with Sur it might mean "off of". Dative is often towards something (though sometimes for all indirect objects) so with Sur it might mean onto. With locative it could mean on.
by Nachtuil
Fri Dec 02, 2016 1:50 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Eldrin
Replies: 54
Views: 21820

Re: Eldrin

You could have case marking be a clitic and be on the end of noun phrases. This is how the English " 's " works. It basically is a clitic for the genitive case. Like "the queen of England's jewels" or "the man that I saw yesterday's book". It just means you have a bit less freedom in word order.
by Nachtuil
Fri Dec 02, 2016 12:55 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Looking for a certain IPA keyboard
Replies: 10
Views: 4419

Re: Looking for a certain IPA keyboard

I feel your pain. I have been working on one myself but it is rather different from that one and less complete. Hopefully someone else has a copy of that one for you.
by Nachtuil
Tue Nov 22, 2016 3:04 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Eldrin
Replies: 54
Views: 21820

Re: Eldrin

I look forward to future developments!
by Nachtuil
Wed Nov 16, 2016 10:01 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Unusual verbal person-marking systems
Replies: 24
Views: 7869

Re: Unusual verbal person-marking systems

Thanks guys! That is really good to know. It is so wild that the past tense of some Russian verbs have a different inflectional pattern like that from the present tense. I want to inflect verbs by gender but wasn't sure if it is done a lot so I figured I would ask.
by Nachtuil
Tue Nov 15, 2016 3:06 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Unusual verbal person-marking systems
Replies: 24
Views: 7869

Re: Unusual verbal person-marking systems

Does any language conjugate verbs for subject noun class?
by Nachtuil
Sat Nov 12, 2016 2:42 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: May have vs. might have
Replies: 25
Views: 8768

Re: May have vs. might have

I from Ontario and am used to them being used interchangeably so it can't just be a California thing. I have little doubt that distinction you understand was once more common.
by Nachtuil
Fri Nov 11, 2016 5:14 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Eldrin
Replies: 54
Views: 21820

Re: Eldrin

If having an accusative case is weird there is no reason you can't just leave your agents, experiences and patients unmarked and let word order take care of things :)
by Nachtuil
Wed Nov 09, 2016 11:07 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Eldrin
Replies: 54
Views: 21820

Re: Eldrin

Well, for pronouns you might want to have pronouns declined for each case and not necessarily just add -ke. Maybe it is hard to grasp quickly coming from English where we play fast and loose with our pronouns since word order and prepositions dominate the heavy semantic lifting instead of case. With...
by Nachtuil
Tue Nov 08, 2016 9:16 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Eldrin
Replies: 54
Views: 21820

Re: Eldrin

Nachtuil, The problem is that I'm not making it expressively one word order and I'm using 2... OSV has the problem of (Noun Noun Verb). English we do "Him He Kills" in Eldrin it would be "He He Kill" or "Bob and Susan Bill Help" which is just confusing at times so by throwing in a indicator it solv...
by Nachtuil
Tue Nov 08, 2016 2:05 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Eldrin
Replies: 54
Views: 21820

Re: Eldrin

I don know if you need to explicitly mark the indicative mood. You could probably leave it as an unmarked default. You should try doing some translation with the mood particles before committing to them. You may find it clunky to have to mark it explicitly every time. For instance, English has multi...
by Nachtuil
Sun Nov 06, 2016 5:29 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Eldrin
Replies: 54
Views: 21820

Re: Eldrin

Mèþru is quite right. You could leave the infinitive unmarked, or even mark it differently. You could require that the finite verb might always come first in the sentence before the infinitive verb. You could also try "verb stacking" where you put a bunch of verbs consequitively where following verb...
by Nachtuil
Thu Nov 03, 2016 5:05 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Eldrin
Replies: 54
Views: 21820

Re: Eldrin

I would totally be honoured if you used them. :) Yeah case marking is pretty different from how English does it. I would take a look at some languages that use them to get a better idea. They play different roles. You might choose for instance to use the ablative and dative cases into of the accusat...
by Nachtuil
Tue Nov 01, 2016 4:26 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Eldrin
Replies: 54
Views: 21820

Re: Eldrin

Let me put together some examples of how cases can work. Case marking is usually a suffix that you stick on the end of a noun, though in some languages it is a prefix, though this is rarer. They basically fill a very similar role that that prepositions (or postpositions do) in showing the interrelat...
by Nachtuil
Tue Nov 01, 2016 4:25 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Eldrin
Replies: 54
Views: 21820

Re: Eldrin

Accidentally posted twice.
by Nachtuil
Tue Nov 01, 2016 8:35 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Eldrin
Replies: 54
Views: 21820

Re: Eldrin

Evidentially marking is something we don't have in English and we just indicate with adverbs like "allegedly" and such and phrasally, "it seems to me" etc. You certainly can get by doing it that way. In languages with evidentially they'll have a grammatical element like a clitic, affix or particle o...
by Nachtuil
Sat Oct 29, 2016 5:25 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Eldrin
Replies: 54
Views: 21820

Re: Eldrin

I am glad you understand my pain :p I want to write more now. Sorry, I should have said about gender, even though English has pronouns based on the gender system from Germanic, you could have a lot of pronouns but no gender system anyway. Consider Thai which has a multitude of pronouns but no gramma...
by Nachtuil
Sat Oct 29, 2016 12:49 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Eldrin
Replies: 54
Views: 21820

Re: Eldrin

Ugh okay, very quickly and of tragically reduced content. I don't know what site you are referring to but hopefully this is helpful: Gender: Gender is a form of noun class. Noun class agreement can be really useful in languages because language is imperfect so some redundancy is useful. About half t...
by Nachtuil
Sat Oct 29, 2016 12:31 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Eldrin
Replies: 54
Views: 21820

Re: Eldrin

Holy god I just lost a post that took me so long to write that the system logged me out so I lost it! I am pretty peeved............
I can't even right now.
by Nachtuil
Fri Oct 28, 2016 10:30 am
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Eldrin
Replies: 54
Views: 21820

Re: Eldrin

Seems promising so far. What kind of grammatical features are you looking to use?