Something like:jal wrote:Inspired by this thread, rat rap vs. rat trap (curious to know whether anyone has affricated /tr/?)
JAL
rat trap: [ɹʷæ̈t̚ tɕʷʰɹʷæ̈ɓ]
rat rap: [ɹʷæ̈ʔ ɹʷæ̈ɓ]
Something like:jal wrote:Inspired by this thread, rat rap vs. rat trap (curious to know whether anyone has affricated /tr/?)
JAL
It's the /n/ that's sometimes lost, not the /l/.Salmoneus wrote:I- "kiln" has always had /l/
By the time /ð/ was lost, cloth could have already had its vowel shortened.Salmoneus wrote:In any case, if the /D/ was restored it was probably by analogy with 'cloth'
I don't think native Tamil words allow initial r-, so a variant with initial e- added would make sense.thetha wrote:the Dravidian form is obviously a Sanskrit loan, and I can find no corroborating source for the initial e.
[hɐːd̥ʲ]/[hɐːt̯ʲ]ˈd̪ʲɛ.gɔ kɾuˑl̪ wrote:hard vs. heart
herd vs. hurt
piers vs. pierce
ford vs. fort
bid vs. bit