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by installer_swan
Tue Jul 02, 2013 11:22 am
Forum: None of the above
Topic: Odd selection of languages?
Replies: 9
Views: 4350

Re: Odd selection of languages?

हम कुछ अद्यतन साइट के लिए कर रहे हैं. हम जल्द ही वापस हो सकता है, आपके धैर्य के लिए धन्यवाद करेंगे. To make it worse the Hindi text is quite ungrammatical and looks machine translated. So no native Hindi speaker ever saw that message. The English, Spanish, Hindi led me to believe maybe someone just...
by installer_swan
Tue Sep 18, 2012 3:21 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: AAVE names
Replies: 131
Views: 25907

Re: AAVE names

It's made worse by pronouncing it as a native Portuguese word. I remember meeting an [udsɒ̃], and it took me a while to figure it out. I had the same problem once with a [vagiˈneχ]. I had to see it written before it made any sense. I'm going to go on an extreme guess and suggest that this is an ove...
by installer_swan
Sun Sep 16, 2012 3:04 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: AAVE names
Replies: 131
Views: 25907

Re: AAVE names

Nobody's yet mentioned the weird Brazilian habit of using pseudo-English surnames ending in -son as male personal names as a comparison? I've met and worked with a Jackson, an Eddyson, a Ramson, an Anderson, and there's a footballer with the first name Richerlyson (sp?). It's made worse by pronounc...
by installer_swan
Sun Sep 09, 2012 7:53 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Question-Word Questions Posing as Yes-No Questions
Replies: 6
Views: 1888

Re: Question-Word Questions Posing as Yes-No Questions

In both Hindi/Urdu and Tamil, the standard phrasing of such questions would be "waffles want-INTERROG or pancakes want-INTERROG", so 'yes' is no longer a valid answer. You could however phrase it as in the english example you give with just one instance of "want" in which case 'yes' is a technically...
by installer_swan
Wed Sep 05, 2012 2:39 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Loom of Language
Replies: 16
Views: 4067

Re: The Loom of Language

These rituals, for the individual, proved membership of a certain class, and for society as a whole had a magical power to prevent social and cultural degradation and maintain the value of society in the eyes of the gods and ancestors. Is it different for Sanskrit? Nope. That's a pretty accurate de...
by installer_swan
Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:57 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Basilectal Indian English
Replies: 4
Views: 1503

Re: Basilectal Indian English

Well, we also say "American English" and "British English", despite the obvious differences between varieties of each. Just as there's no objective definition of "language" as a count noun, there's no objective definition of "English" as one either. True, but I think the assumption of a pan-Indian ...
by installer_swan
Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:44 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Basilectal Indian English
Replies: 4
Views: 1503

Re: Basilectal Indian English

I am often confused by the use of the term Indian English as opposed to Indian English es . There's probably as much variation among various Indian variants of the language than between any of them and say RP. Very broadly, I'd break it up as South Indian English, Bengali English and North Indian va...
by installer_swan
Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:29 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Loom of Language
Replies: 16
Views: 4067

Re: The Loom of Language

GrinningManiac wrote:
Ean wrote:when is dog?
Whoops. I meant "How much is the dog" but "When is dog" is quite funny so I'll pretend that was deliberate.
American English with its frequent /t/ -> /d/ will do that to you :)
by installer_swan
Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:27 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Loom of Language
Replies: 16
Views: 4067

Re: The Loom of Language

Is there such a thing as useful competence in Sanskrit? The aim of studying dead prestige languages has very little to do with being able to speak them. I'm not talking about speech (there are some crazy spoken Sanskrit revivalists out there, but in all likelihood it was never a spoken language, ex...
by installer_swan
Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:57 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Loom of Language
Replies: 16
Views: 4067

Re: The Loom of Language

@Pthug, I agree, sometimes I think the pendulum has swung too far in the other direction. We have gone from teaching an overly prescriptivist Latin based English grammar to not teaching any grammar to the extent that even simple grammatical terms like tense and aspect are something most people are c...
by installer_swan
Tue Sep 04, 2012 2:43 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Loom of Language
Replies: 16
Views: 4067

The Loom of Language

I actually just happened to see Ashmoon's locked thread about learning Spanish through immersion from a "basic Spanish" vocabulary jumping board. So, I thought of sharing this interesting book , written shortly after WW 2, so that's got to count for something of course, but the author made a similar...
by installer_swan
Fri Aug 03, 2012 6:05 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Parlor Game: The Unknown Language Genie
Replies: 72
Views: 12172

Re: Parlor Game: The Unknown Language Genie

The spoken language(s) of the Indus Valley civilization and some readers if the seals are indeed language and they had a script.
by installer_swan
Fri Jul 20, 2012 6:37 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: A quick question about Devanagari, Mongolian alphabet...
Replies: 5
Views: 1809

Re: A quick question about Devanagari, Mongolian alphabet...

In Devanagari, the 'top bar' is written after the letters themselves have been written -- i.e., it's an added final step in Devanagari which other (related) Indian scripts don't have. Minor nitpick, while the order of writing the characters and drawing the line after the word is completed is correc...
by installer_swan
Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:19 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Finger survey
Replies: 33
Views: 6802

Re: Finger survey

What would be interesting is how the index is called in languages where it's impolite to point fingers at something/someone. Is it still the "pointing finger", since that seems to be very common, too? Well, it's impolite in German culture and even more so in Russian culture (in German culture, it's...
by installer_swan
Sat Jun 30, 2012 2:22 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Finger survey
Replies: 33
Views: 6802

Re: Finger survey

Tamil:
ஆள்காட்டி விரல் (Person-pointing finger)
நடுவிரல் (middle-finger)
மோதிர விரல் (ring finger)
சுண்டு விரல் (tiny/coiled finger = little finger)
கட்டைவிரல் (stump/plank-finger = thumb)
by installer_swan
Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:27 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: التلفون المتعدد اللغات ١٦ (Polyglottal Telephone XVI)
Replies: 157
Views: 27145

Re: التلفون المتعدد اللغات ١٦ (Polyglottal Telephone XVI)

I knew, that my translation from Bengali would be messed up by false friends from Hindi. নিলাম in Hindi means auction, and আদি which means source also means ancient which is the more common (virtually the only) sense when the word is used in Hindi. But @Aeetlrcreejl, what does "আসল" mean in the pass...
by installer_swan
Sat Jun 23, 2012 2:14 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: التلفون المتعدد اللغات ١٦ (Polyglottal Telephone XVI)
Replies: 157
Views: 27145

Re: التلفون المتعدد اللغات ١٦ (Polyglottal Telephone XVI)

Zayk wrote:Maybe I'm just being impatient, but I submitted my translation a month and a half ago.
Well, I signed up for this two months ago, and still haven't seen my text, so no, I don't think you're being impatient :)
by installer_swan
Sat Jun 23, 2012 3:31 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Google launches the Endangered Language Project
Replies: 73
Views: 11667

Re: Google launches the Endangered Language Project

not really -- vegans are denying food to animals. That's absurdly stupid. And, there is at least an argument to be made that stunning and painlessly killing an animal raised on a farm is better than both, factory farmer animals tortured all their lives and killing animals in a strange brutal way by...
by installer_swan
Sat Jun 23, 2012 12:41 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Google launches the Endangered Language Project
Replies: 73
Views: 11667

Re: Google launches the Endangered Language Project

Why is a cultural heritage considered inherently valuable? I agree that culture is always in flux anyway, and trying to preserve dying cultures when the "inheritors"/"descendants" are willingly abandoning is an activity which needs to be justified. However, I think the process of having a historica...
by installer_swan
Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:28 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Strange accent I heard today
Replies: 21
Views: 3285

Re: Strange accent I heard today

That doesn't really seem as likely to me, because Korean does have phonemic aspirated stops. Yeah, but the thing is english doesn't mark aspiration orthographically, so a lot of L2 learners (especially if their native languages have aspirated/unaspirated pairs which are written differently just lea...
by installer_swan
Fri Jun 22, 2012 4:32 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Strange accent I heard today
Replies: 21
Views: 3285

Re: Strange accent I heard today

It probably also has to do with the fact that english initial <p>'s are /ph/, which makes it sound closer to /f/ to speakers who are used to hearing only unaspirated <p>.
by installer_swan
Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:23 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: التلفون المتعدد اللغات ١٦ (Polyglottal Telephone XVI)
Replies: 157
Views: 27145

Re: التلفون المتعدد اللغات ١٦ (Polyglottal Telephone XVI)

Aeetlrcreejl wrote:I might be a little late in translating - the place where I am doesn't have Internet.
Hurry up Aeetircreejl, I'm going to be travelling on Thursday and Friday. Let's try to finish it by month end.
by installer_swan
Fri Jun 01, 2012 4:34 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: التلفون المتعدد اللغات ١٦ (Polyglottal Telephone XVI)
Replies: 157
Views: 27145

Re: التلفون المتعدد اللغات ١٦ (Polyglottal Telephone XVI)

I think I'm going to forget all the Bengali that I brushed up for this thing before I get the text. :(
by installer_swan
Thu May 31, 2012 7:43 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Most Important Natural Languages?
Replies: 77
Views: 12695

Re: Most Important Natural Languages?

brandrinn: My point was sort of based on my experience of English in India. I think the problem is that mimicking "native" pronunciation is often seen as an end unto itself in a lot of ESL courses, which I've never felt as being worth the amount of effort that people seem to put into it. This extrem...