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It has just come to my attention that Almea actually does have an Industrial Revolution going on. Why didn't anyone tell me!? Because, as far as I know, it has been common knowledge about Almea since day 1? But since it has just come to your attention, I cannot blame you. Anyway it looks like they ...

I never did simultaneous translation between English and Japanese yet, but I don't find the translation between both to be that difficult. To the OP : It would seem you haven't worked enough on your language. Is the verb going at the end of the sentence? Is the noun going after all adjectives? Are a...

"Collect all two" sounds like a blatant gallicism to me. (Obtenez tous les deux.) French does not have a particular word equivalent to "both"; we simply extend to normal all X to 2.

I always have fun presenting my own full name. Japanese people freak out at my official name in Canada. I have one of those old French Catholic names.

Otherwise, I had cousins, brother and sister, who were called Silvain and Silvie. Basically, male and female version of the same name.

NEW TRANSLATION : Cu kyes rum šweriju gerizasayjuc na syu deš xaircú e zenisimu keno, seč cunde sindimayc. Tas mausende brešuacusuc. Cu tagri ga gerizas šuči na cu xisam xaučí na Krosámis zezinej. - Dusiči If I ask ten students if they grasp the Greater Principle, six will say yes. How advanced we ...

If you ask me, pretty much every atheistic scientist is in someway close to Endajué. It's normal : science is based on overiludo : you dust of the mistakes of your predecessors. Pretty much any scientific that goes with the scientific method is pretty much doing something close to Endajué. Endajué ...

This makes me wonder if Xurnese mathematicians classify their field into four disciplines, based on the Endajué principles: "am/mu" (one/with): number theory, algebra, combinatorics, probability "ez" (all): topology, set theory, cosmology, astrophysics (while we wouldn't normally consider astrophys...

Daneydzaus o Dzusuisi

The more I look at the Xurnese syllabary, while I would push for a better distinction between characters, keeping the idea of the columns can be an awesome thing. At one point, one will probably figure out a reformation of the whole system, but Xurno is a rigid country, and I would expect it to keep...

I guess this is more or less what I was expecting, although I was hoping to amuse myself with thoughts of Trotsky implementing socionomics with an iron hand, haha. It's like the exact opposite of everything zomp has ever written on his blog and website. I couldn't imagine him making a novel and hav...

That's probably about as good as you can do for now. The stuff on writing Xurnese is way too sketchy and I'll have to get back to that. Plus it was written before Xurnese was actually reworked and finished. (You write du- but I'm sure you know that's always dzu-. Axunašin du/dou became Xurnese dzu/...

Ok... This was insane. I tried to translate the title of my blog in Syllabics. I had intense problems to find out how to write the word dzusuisi, and I am actually not satisfied with the whole thing. There is nothing in Axunemi that crosses the sound changes and become "ui". Indeed, anything ui-like...

So socionomics works nicely in the whirling world of AD 4901, where it's had a nice amount of time to be thought up and be implemented, and is supposed to be based on the past (at the time of the novel) 3000 years of humanity's high tech industrial culture. It's mentioned that colonies don't necess...

Terra wrote:According to the paper, they're biologists and psychologists.

Oh great. Someone should remind them to stay in their fields. Languages are obviously too complicated for them.

I'm not sure whether I totally follow Yiuel on the principle "input above output". Now, it's clear that without learning vocabulary and patterns / grammar and without passive exposure through reading and listening, you'll not be able to produce much output. It's not input above output, but input be...

Ambrisio wrote:Yes, I should have seen that. It's kind of odd for a dzusey name to have the word "teach" in it.

Great name. I think it's right up there with ma-Podi and ne-Duox.

I actually took something less flashy and more descriptive, more akin to Rúmeš.

Ambrisio wrote:

zompist wrote:

Ambrisio wrote:For some reason, I can't find "Daney" (as in Daneydzaus) in the lexicon. Is it some kind of Axunašin derivative?

In part yes. But you've got the wrong division; it's da-neydzaus.

But I can't find ''da'' either. Does it mean "big shoulders"?

It does. Broad shoulders.

I've had more of a think about your "mistakes" assertion, and I think it should just be worded differently. The idea's already come up somewhere in this thread, maybe from you. I still think it's a bad idea to say you should never make mistakes, because Japanese people will just clam up in that cas...

clawgrip wrote:

vampireshark wrote:· Learning doesn't stop when you leave the classroom. If you want to get good at a language and to retain it, you need to use it regularly and consistently.

Yes! This is one of the most important lessons!

I believe this is something we all agree on.

Have you ever looked at these students who just spit out those words? What is their goal? What is that whatever reason is pretty much the key for them. I've had older students who studied an hour a week and put English out of their mind the rest of the week, and so could retain nothing. Their motiv...

Some students have no trouble with it, while others never seem to be able to figure it out. I think it boils down partly to the amount of motivation and commitment the student has, partly to the age of the student, and partly to their own capacity to learn language (I don't know if this capacity is...

I don't think you should take the language-learning habits of anyone on this board as representative of language learners in general. Most people have neither Astraios's self-motivation nor his pre-existing knowledge of grammar to understand. Many students in Japan struggle with the concept of "aux...

As for patience, that is something you have to learn when learning a language. A baby takes years to form a language; if people think it will take minutes to pick up a second language, they are nuts, and they should be told so (politely). Maybe not minutes, but it only took me a couple of evenings ...

You may find this of interest: http://www.victoria.ac.nz/lals/about/staff/publications/paul-nation/1996-Four-strands.pdf The brief outline of his four strands are: 1. Meaning-focused input: listening and reading with the intent of understanding the ideas and the messages being conveyed rather than ...

Making mistakes should be encouraged because otherwise you don't actually learn where you're going wrong, so I disagree entirely with that point. For what it is worth, I knew that my sixth point would be highly disapproved; it's considered a good thing to make mistakes among language teachers *shud...