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I was thinking of making a sound system for a language (spoken by humanoids who have the same oral cavity as Humans) which would maximize the difficulty for transcription. In less awkward wording: I want to have a phonology which is the most difficult to transcribe in the Latin alphabet. (Pre)Aspira...

Arǧi: wayèṇuwe [wajəˈnˤowe][/quote] Tletlwan yàyenayè [ɥajənɑɥe]

Proto-Alpianic is a protolang I am currently working on for a collaborative family project in the League of Lost Languages; it is related to Old Albic, about as close as Greek is to Latin. Consonants /p t k/ < p t k > /pʰ tʰ kʰ/ < ph th kh > /pf ts kx/ < pf ts kx > /f s x h/ < f s x h > /m n ŋ/ < m...

This is actually a great phonology for a conlang: Here it is, tabulated: CONSONANTS Labial: p bʷ m Alveolar: t~ɾ n s z ts Alveopalatal: ɕ Velar: k kʷ VOWELS i o a ai ao That is pretty awesome. Phonologically it seems Austronesian or... I'm not really sure. You should really consider making a langua...

I was toying around with some more ideas and I'm thinking about the most spoken language on the world my main language is spoke on. I'm going to give a stab at it. It may be the most spoken language on the planet but it has rare traits. Tipaahn Consonants Nasals: /m̥ m n̼̊ n̼ n̥ n/ Plosives /p b t̼ ...

This is for Gnoughish. I came up with the orthography ages ago, and never did the phonology to accompany it, so this is largely experimental. - /a e i o u ɛ œ ɶ e: o: / <a e i o u ea oe oa ee oo> - /aj aw ja jo iə wa oj ow/ <ai~ay au~aw ia eo ie wa oi~oy ou~ow> (I assume that ~ can used for "or", i...

Monk wrote:/m̥ m n̥ n ɲ̊ ɲ ŋ̊ ŋ/
/p b t d c ɟ k ɡ/
/ɸ β f v θ ð s ç x ɣ h/
/j ɾ r l̥ l/
/w/

Vowels:
/i y u ɪ ʏ e ø o ɛ œ ɔ æ ɑ/

Any phonotactics? Allophony?

Are the voiceless nasals and laterals common? Why you no have voiceless labiovelar approximant? I'd like to see more.

Ta-lrm-zrq'-k'r tᶅik'ruw [t͡ɬi.kʰɹʊɰ] Tletlwan likro [t͡ɬi.kr̥o]

Tieđđá wrote:

masako wrote: next: to change into; to turn into; to become

-čeḥ- : [ˈtʃɛχ] - to become

Next word: torch

hàalt : [χ^wɑ:ɬt^h] - torch, flashlight, lantern

Next word: zeitgeist

Jerian wrote:Either way, meh, I like how it sounds.

Fair enough.

I had velar, bilabial and labiodental nasals, but I removed them; they didn't sound nice in any of the words I put them into. Generally according to WALS Chapter 5: Voicing and Gaps in Plosive Systems http://wals.info/chapter/5 /p/ and /g/ are the most likely to disappear (perhaps together) but no ...

Modern Palethian cïjhï [ˈʃɯᶢǂɯ] Tletlwan [tʃək:ə]

There are no voiced fricatives, no non-obstruent laterals, no open back vowel, nor are their any palatals in Tletlwan so they'd mangle this word pretty fiercely I'd presume. I rather find that to be the point of this thread. Tletlwan xə̀ii [xʷəi:] :> Maja krui [kχɾʷi] Maja krui [kχɾʷi] :> Miar kqʰr...

Ngmwragh ghuli [ɣɯʎ̥̝i] Tletlwan xə̀ii [x^wəi:]

There are no voiced fricatives, no non-obstruent laterals, no open back vowel, nor are their any palatals in Tletlwan so they'd mangle this word pretty fiercely I'd presume.

Yagalian yuiśi [ju.i.ɕi] Yiwu y̨ici [ɥi.çi]

Matrix wrote:Arve mije [mijɪj] Ta-lrm-zrq'-k'r miwiw [miɰ.iɰ]

Ta-lrm-zrq'-k'r miwiw [miɰ.iɰ] Tletlwan mixì [mix^wy]

you could use <z> but <j> is fine too. hell, some transcription systems use <j> for /dz/. if i were you i'd be more worried about the questionable use of ogoneks and g-breve -- i don't know of a single orthography where g-breve is a stop. just about any other diacritic on g would work, although i'd...

Avo wrote:Azunan im [ỹ] → Hoavi vuin [ˈβɨ̃ɪ̯]

Hoavi vuin [ˈβɨ̃ɪ̯] → Tletlwan mii [ˈmiɪ]

I'm working on some of the surrounding languages spoken in the vicinity of Tletlwan (my major project). The language spoken by the dominant power of the Northwestern corner of the continent is called Yiwu. Yiwu Consonantal Inventory: Nasals: /m n/ <m n> Plosives: /b t d k kʷ g/ <b t d k k̨ g> Fricat...

Inspired by Caucasian languages: ʔ ʔʷ ʔʲ ʔˤ ʔʷˤ ʔʰ ʔʷʰ ʔʲʰ ʔˤʰ ʔʷˤʰ h hʷ hʲ ħ ħʷ ʕ ʕʷ ʜ ʜʷ q qʷ qʲ qˤ qʷˤ qʰ qʷʰ qʲʰ qˤʰ qʷˤʰ qʼ qʷʼ qʲʼ qˤʼ qʷˤʼ ɢ ɢʷ ɢʲ ɢˤ ɢˤʷ ɢʱ ɢʱʷ ɢʱʲ ɢʱˤ ɢʷˤʱ ʛ ʛˤ ɴ ɴʷ ɴʲ ɴˤ ɴˤʷ ɴʱ ɴʱʷ ɴʱʲ ɴʱˤ ɴʷˤʱ χ χʷ χʲ χˤ χʷˤ ʁ ʁʷ ʁʲ ʁˤ ʁʷˤ ʟ ʟʷ ʟʲ ʟˤ ʟʷˤ ʟ̥ ʟ̥ʷ ʟ̥ʲ ʟ̥ˤ ʟ̥ʷˤ ʀ ʀʷ k kʷ kʲ ...

Eandil wrote:

Shm Jay wrote:I hope they are paying you with hard currency!

I thought they paid him with exquisite phonemes

Like /^hʂ:/, /ŋ͡m/, /k͡ʟ̝̊ʼ^w/ and /r̥^ɥ/. I'll take those for payment. Mmm, tasty (and mostly difficult to pronounce) phonemes.

Lhelwan (previously Leþwin) Final revision of sound system: The Consonants: Nasals /m/ /n/ Prenasalized Plosives / m b/ / n d/ / n d w / / ŋ g/ / ŋ g w / Plosives /b/ /t/ /d/ /t w / /d w / /k/ /g/ /k w / /g w / /q/ /q w / Ejectives /tθʼ/ /t’/ /tɬ’/ /ts’/ /k'/ /q'/ Affricates /tθ/ /tɬ/ /ts/ /tɬ w / /...

Leþwin:

Down (ornithology): /ⁿdɑm^wæ/ <ndamà>

Next word: The most left-field lexeme you can muster

Renzell [eçitχeˈtχɔ̃] Tuyuk: ehitretrá [æɦitχɛtχɑː] Input [æɦitχɛtχɑː] into Leþwin Output: /ɛxɪtxɛtxɑː/ probably more realized at [ɛχɪtçe̝tχɑː] <eh̨idh̨eth̨ɑɑ> > Neo-Dwemer <ehythjethal> [ɛ.hɪt.ˈhjet.həʊ] [ɛ.hɪt.ˈhjet.həʊ] > [ɛ.xɪt.xɪʎɛt.a] > [xɪt.xɪ.ʎɛt.χɑ] <h̨idh̨iyedh̨a> One of the farther flung...

Theta wrote:

Nortaneous wrote:Renzell [eçitχeˈtχɔ̃]

Tuyuk: ehitretrá [æɦitχɛtχɑː]

Input [æɦitχɛtχɑː] into Leþwin
Output: /ɛxɪtxɛtxɑː/ probably more realized at [ɛχɪtçe̝tχɑː] <eh̨idh̨eth̨ɑɑ>