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by KathTheDragon
Sat May 05, 2018 6:57 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread
Replies: 3108
Views: 663854

Re: The "How do You Pronounce X" Thread

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by KathTheDragon
Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:29 am
Forum: None of the above
Topic: Venting thread that still excludes eddy (2)
Replies: 2639
Views: 317297

Re: Venting thread that still excludes eddy

before I crack it over your head. It should be "on" your head. "Over my head" there's just thin air. That'd be "above my head". "Over" here means "spread across", more or less. Considering the context that came up in, that was obviously a joke. I'd actually wanted to say the same thing as Kath (and...
by KathTheDragon
Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:34 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: What do you call...
Replies: 22
Views: 14365

Re: What do you call...

I agree with Aly there.
by KathTheDragon
Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:51 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: What do you call...
Replies: 22
Views: 14365

Re: What do you call...

"him" has to refer to someone in the context, so forcing it to refer to Chomsky is jarring. And if Chomsky is the person in the context, then repeating his name sounds stilted.
by KathTheDragon
Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:57 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: What do you call...
Replies: 22
Views: 14365

Re: What do you call...

Those are all fine and none of them are the same as the Chomsky example.
by KathTheDragon
Sun Apr 22, 2018 5:49 pm
Forum: None of the above
Topic: Venting thread that still excludes eddy (2)
Replies: 2639
Views: 317297

Re: Venting thread that still excludes eddy

jal wrote:
linguoboy wrote:before I crack it over your head.
It should be "on" your head. "Over my head" there's just thin air.


JAL
That'd be "above my head". "Over" here means "spread across", more or less.
by KathTheDragon
Sun Apr 22, 2018 5:45 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: What do you call...
Replies: 22
Views: 14365

Re: What do you call...

Only Zomp's fifth example doesn't work for me. His first and second are absolutely fine.
by KathTheDragon
Sat Apr 21, 2018 10:27 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Nostratic, Eurasiatic, Mitian, ...
Replies: 217
Views: 82531

Re: Nostratic, Eurasiatic, Mitian, ...

Richard W wrote:If one is only interested in reconstructing linguistic family trees, that is a fair point.
What else would you be interested in? Moreover, given this is a thread about reconstructing linguistic family trees, why shouldn't we only be interested in it?
by KathTheDragon
Sat Apr 21, 2018 9:38 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Nostratic, Eurasiatic, Mitian, ...
Replies: 217
Views: 82531

Re: Nostratic, Eurasiatic, Mitian, ...

Vijay wrote:maybe nothing I say makes sense and I'm typing practical gibberish half of the time that's on the level of insane as Time Cube, without even realising it.
This... isn't the case? Like, I don't even know how to respond to this.
by KathTheDragon
Sat Apr 21, 2018 7:28 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: Nostratic, Eurasiatic, Mitian, ...
Replies: 217
Views: 82531

Re: Nostratic, Eurasiatic, Mitian, ...

Vlürch wrote:Well, I'm not a scientist and am technically mentally ill, so anything I say should of course be rejected automatically.
What the actual fuck? Nobody said this! Moreover, I also fit that description.
by KathTheDragon
Fri Apr 20, 2018 8:15 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: What do you call this?
Replies: 302
Views: 91770

Re: What do you call this?

No, I'd be more likely to call it a biscuit tin if it were rectangular. Cookie tin is just what immediately came to mind.
by KathTheDragon
Thu Apr 19, 2018 2:14 pm
Forum: None of the above
Topic: A Very Brief Explanation of the British Election
Replies: 323
Views: 97211

Re: A Very Brief Explanation of the British Election

alynnidalar wrote:What was the logic behind destroying the landing cards?
Perhaps May knew that if they were conveniently gone, it'd be a lot easier to get rid of the Windfall generation in the future. Unless that's too cynical, even for her.
by KathTheDragon
Sun Apr 15, 2018 4:39 pm
Forum: Conlangery & Conworlds
Topic: Sound Change Quickie Thread
Replies: 2827
Views: 630063

Re: Sound Change Quickie Thread

I'm curious about the assymetry between ʰp > x and ʰt > θ in _[C#]. Any particular reason?
by KathTheDragon
Fri Apr 13, 2018 3:42 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: What do you call this?
Replies: 302
Views: 91770

Re: What do you call this?

A cookie tin. Even if there are no cookies.
by KathTheDragon
Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:08 am
Forum: None of the above
Topic: The dream thread
Replies: 1807
Views: 321474

Re: The dream thread

Clearly you wrote this while still sleeping.
by KathTheDragon
Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:37 am
Forum: None of the above
Topic: Confusing headlines and other trips down the garden path
Replies: 1058
Views: 228246

Re: Confusing headlines and other trips down the garden path

It's flowers for the death of a burglar in Hither Green
by KathTheDragon
Thu Apr 05, 2018 9:15 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
Replies: 2225
Views: 461356

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread

More or less, yes, though I thought this was generally understood, since verbs preserve the distribution between accented e-grade and unaccented zero-grade particularly well, e.g. *h₁ésti < *h₁ásti vs. *h₁sénti < *h₁asánti
by KathTheDragon
Thu Apr 05, 2018 8:32 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
Replies: 2225
Views: 461356

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread

Ah, I see. In my framework, those schwas are from the original underlying vowels, so *CawC > *CəwC > *CuːC > *CuC
by KathTheDragon
Thu Apr 05, 2018 7:27 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
Replies: 2225
Views: 461356

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread

For one thing, why do syllabified sonorants yield long vowels, not short vowels? Where do they yield long vowels? What are some instances of *o not from ablaut that are said to not operate under Brugmann's Law? Just *pótis? This is an excellent question, and I wish I had an answer for you. Unfortun...
by KathTheDragon
Thu Apr 05, 2018 5:38 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
Replies: 2225
Views: 461356

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread

I'm not sure I understand. The whole point is that ablaut only acted on the original low vowels. In principle, every instance of /aː/ is susceptible to being shortened to /a/ because ablaut was just that widespread.
by KathTheDragon
Thu Apr 05, 2018 1:29 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
Replies: 2225
Views: 461356

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread

This paper deals with the reflexes of PIIr. *az (and *až), and explicitly denies mediation through a diphthong, since we never find e.g. ai < *āz, but rather ā with simple loss of the fricative, which indicates compensatory lengthening as the source of the long vowels instead. While the paper is ag...
by KathTheDragon
Wed Apr 04, 2018 5:42 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
Replies: 2225
Views: 461356

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread

It seems bizarre that the only time /a:/ would show up is in the ablaut system. Nah, not really, given that it's largely only detectable because of ablaut. It's like saying "it seems bizarre that we can only internally distinguish Germanic *e and *i in Gothic on the basis of their ablaut alternants...
by KathTheDragon
Wed Apr 04, 2018 1:46 pm
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
Replies: 2225
Views: 461356

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread

Fine. So we agree that *o probably was rounded in post-Anatolian PIE (PIE3), though with pre-Anatolian PIE (PIE2) the matter is less certain. I feel, however, that when a language has three open vowels with different degrees of backness, the backmost is likely to acquire rounding soon, in order to ...
by KathTheDragon
Wed Apr 04, 2018 9:04 am
Forum: Languages & Linguistics
Topic: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread
Replies: 2225
Views: 461356

Re: The Great Proto-Indo-European Thread

I still do not understand Kath's scepticism against *o having been rounded in PIE3 I've already conceded that *o (probably) was rounded by late PIE, just not early/pre-PIE. it turned an adjacent open front vowel into an open back vowel. IMO this is unwarranted - the frontness of *e is clearly secon...